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Topic: Russian Collusion Isn't A Crime!
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 10, 2017 05:50 AM
President Trump's support is stronger than ever. The DOW broke another record high during Comey's testimony. I predict more seats lost for the Dems next year. Then they will spend the following two years in denial till 2020 when they finally realize that Hillary lost four years ago. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10478 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 10, 2017 08:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: President Trump never said he would be pleading the 5th. In fact, he said he welcomed testifying under oath. The criminal here is Comey. And the person who obstructed justice is Lyin' Loretta. I bet y'all still believe that all Bill and her talked about on the tarmac were their grandchildren.
No one said trump did... but his bud Flynn did remember?! And on the stump, what did Trump say about innocent people?? Round and round we go. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 10, 2017 09:09 AM
The only crime we knew about for certain was the one committed against Flynn. Now, thanks to Comey, we know of many, including several that he committed. From leaking to not protecting FBI records to not reporting a felony to violating his signed nondisclosure (which stipulated inprisonment for violation). Probably conspiracy also. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 9966 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2017 09:00 AM
"Interesting vid.. especially sinceTrump publicly DID ask theRussians to hack HRC..."This is the kind of twaddle constantly spewed from the lower orifice of leftist loons. Trump did not invite Russia to hack Hillary The Corrupt's computers. What Trump said...is that he hoped Russia could FIND Hillary The Corrupt's emails SHE HAD DELETED from her computer. The political theory in vogue at the time, was that Hillary The Corrupt's computer had already been hacked by foreign intelligence services. No need to hack Hillary The Corrupt's computer again, just find those 31,000 emails already hacked from Hillary The Corrupt's computer...which she had already deleted. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4437 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 11, 2017 06:16 PM
Well golly gee And how does one "find" deleted emails from someone else's server Without hacking?By having already hacked them previous to deletion perhaps?
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 10478 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2017 07:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina: Well golly gee And how does one "find" deleted emails from someone else's server Without hacking?By having already hacked them previous to deletion perhaps?
Yep! ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2017 09:50 PM
No need to amuse yourselves with pats on the back. Jwhop noted that the server was already hacked.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10296 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2017 05:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: "Interesting vid.. especially sinceTrump publicly DID ask theRussians to hack HRC..."This is the kind of twaddle constantly spewed from the lower orifice of leftist loons. Trump did not invite Russia to hack Hillary The Corrupt's computers. What Trump said...is that he hoped Russia could FIND Hillary The Corrupt's emails [b]SHE HAD DELETED from her computer. The political theory in vogue at the time, was that Hillary The Corrupt's computer had already been hacked by foreign intelligence services. No need to hack Hillary The Corrupt's computer again, just find those 31,000 emails already hacked from Hillary The Corrupt's computer...which she had already deleted. [/B]
No matter how you say it, it's bad. He wanted a foreign government to find emails of his competitor, to help him win. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2017 03:39 PM
She committed a number of felonies by deleting them. And you choose to focus on Trump's hyperbole instead of her crimes?IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10296 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2017 05:27 PM
Trump is always hysterical, and inviting a foreign power to hack his opponents emails is a CRIME. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2017 06:26 PM
No, hyperbole is protected speech. I'm open for mind change if you can point me to the criminal statute you are alleging.IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4437 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 12, 2017 06:29 PM
Lol but no one knows yet who hacked it..Also a crimeAnd yes, I prefer to focus on the issues at hand not a has been who has already been persecuted ad nauseam despite repeated failures to find the actual proof insinuated by her political enemies We are talking about the sitting predisent (his lawyers word) being possibly guilty of obstructing investigating into possible aiding and abetting of a hostile foreign power which just so happens to possibly have helped him win. http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/donald_trump_may_fall_back_on_pleading_the_fifth_20170612 Nearly as absurd is the contention of former Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz that Trump can’t be guilty of obstruction because he hadthe legal authority to fire Comey. Dershowitz’s position has been widely debunked by an array of legal scholars, including Harvard colleagueLaurence Tribe, who has pointed out that while the president has the power to fire the director of the FBI, he cannot abuse that power. Clearly, if Trump fired Comey to derail or influence the course of the Russia investigation, he acted for an improper purpose, implicating himself in an obstruction of justice. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10478 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2017 07:55 PM
The most serious hack of all is Mr Trump.
------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2017 09:23 PM
According to Wikileaks, it wasn't a foreign actor. Podesta's password was password, so we are not dealing with the brightest crayons in the box. No, Juni, the real political hack is Comey.IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4437 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 12, 2017 10:11 PM
According to wikileaks they "never betray a source". No there there.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2017 11:38 PM
He didn't betray the source.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10296 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2017 06:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: No, hyperbole is protected speech. I'm open for mind change if you can point me to the criminal statute you are alleging.
http://twitter.com/Wilson__Valdez/status/874443116400476160 IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10296 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2017 07:01 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-electionsIP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4437 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 13, 2017 12:52 PM
We are free to speak but what we choose to say may still be held against us. We are free, for instance, to demonstrate srlf interest and double standards, to welcome leaks when they make our opponents look bad and prosecute them when they make us look even worse...in fact we are free to walk around with our feet in our mouths and convict ourselves through our own hubris.. even when others are also guilty of same.What we cannot do is use someone else's unrelated misdeeds as defense when we are caught in ours. You continue to try to defend him on the grounds that someone else got away with something else. If you can prove or even come up with reason to prosecute HRC for abetting Russian interference in our voting process then she is relevant here. Otherwise it's just flak and distraction. He was not under investigation when he talked to Comey. However his own actions may have dropped him in i, or facts been discovered since. I hear he is now thinking of axing Mueller... if so more obstruction charges will result as he digs himself in deeper and deeper. Meanwhile he had left hundreds of positions unfilled and seems to think he can run a country and the world by ego alone. Hillary is done and useless in his defense . IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4437 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 01, 2017 01:55 PM
The plot thickens..perhaps it was not Americans helping Russians but the other way around? You want to assert that recruiting foreign hackers to sway public opinion against HRC is all legal and above board ? Be my guestI didn't want her for president in fact i never saw a worse choice of candidates in my life. But the net is gathering.. The second article suggests there was something strange about an 80+ man dying before he could gratify..I disagree.. he apparently was aware he might die before he told his story and made sure to do so first. http://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-operative-sought-clinton -emails-from-hackers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851? http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/30/ 1676963/-BOMBSHELL-I-was-recruited-by-Trump-campaign-to-collude-on-hack-says-UK-cyber-analyst? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2017 01:49 PM
Still not a crime.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10296 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2017 02:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Still not a crime.
Yes it is. You also didn't answer my question about trusting a hacker with this site. Like dump trusting Russia. That was a typo, but a fitting one, so I'm leaving it.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82276 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2017 02:19 PM
The leading attorney in the nation says it isn't a crime. He's a Democrat. He voted for Hillary. And I guess you know more than he does about the law. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4437 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 11, 2017 03:03 PM
Aiding and "comforting" America's enemies is treason. What do you think "collusion" means? Eff Dershowitz..howsabout the new email scandal? Is it still a "service" to the public now the account is named Trump jr?Even Fox is looking forward to a Gitmo full of Trump officials. Not getting any prettier in DC folks The solar eclipse is on DTs ascendant/mars. It iss the first total solar eclipse to be visible across US in our history. Interesting synchronicity IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2766 From: 2,015 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2017 03:08 PM
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