posted July 10, 2017 07:20 PM            

"Despite police lines, a few brief scuffles broke out. Counterprotesters tried to stop the Klansmen from entering and leaving the park, video showed.

After about 40 minutes, police helped the KKK members push through the crowd to reach their vehicles, Dickler said. Some protesters tried to block the Klan vehicles and police then declared the gathering an unlawful assembly, Dickler said.

As police began to move back toward Justice Park, a large crowd followed, Dickler said. There were a number of incidents, including the use of pepper spray by the crowd, Dickler said. When the crowd didn't follow orders to disperse, state police released three canisters of tear gas and the crowd left, Dickler said."

Just because you disagree with someone's views, it doesn't give you the right to physically attack them, or like on certain university campuses, to break windows, smash cars, or firebomb buildings. The First Amendment exists to protect unpopular speech, not just majority opinion.

I feel icky all over having to click on a CNN site!

posted July 10, 2017 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I feel all icky, when I read excuses for KKK rallies being held at all. The counter-protesters had just as much right to be there.

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So, you would ban such rallies?

posted July 10, 2017 11:27 PM            

Holocaust deniers!

One of the reasons malicious weeds get out of hand is that they are allowed to go to seed and proliferate-- and, just chopping it off at the surface, leaving the root still alive.

They are like the ROOT of Hitler-energy, being revived right now. If the USA does nothing to curb them here, we will have a case of resurgence of our own personal-soil Hitler/Isil Comeback HERE? ---
(not the religion, but, you can extract and understand, I hope).

We got RID of Hitler at WWI.

We still have pain from it, recalling holocaust and concentration-camps....
He was a BUTCHER, with unbelievable sway over audiences, governments, masses of people. Led like dazed sheep to slaughter!

We NEED to historically educate, openly recount respect and Remember; we need to Teach the HISTORY... in order for these newer generations to heed Warnings, take it Seriously and Practically, and Be Wiser..

The dangers of 3rdReich are VISIBLY in media re-popping their ugly heads--

We need to take actions that TEACH children that it is OKAY to DISCERN and lay down some 'special and specific' BOUNDARIES-- for wise reasons.

That would include KKK et al;
AND affiliated racial HATE groups.

Yes, we love and participate in free-speech, or as you say, 'unpopular' speech?? We 'banter' here at LL.

There's a difference between unpopular and the VILE who CELEBRATE Represent and Propagate heinous acts--

We must TEACH HISTORY.... and act on Wisdom. Pass it down the generations. LEARN.

These children in this video are STANDING ON the beach of what was a Bloody Slaughter of Soldiers upon these sands--- BECAUSE of 'allowing' the slide of Hitler-people to infiltrate and take over power-- right under our noses, aware and unawares.

These clean and pure children would represent the new clean seed, which must be educated and taught Discernment.

(music) "When You Believe" (cover by One Voice Children's Choir, lyrics) [5:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jAtB_UBWh0

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Published on Jul 6, 2017
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Filmed on-location at Omaha Beach and Brittany American Cemetery and Memorial in Normandy, France.
Performed in English, Hebrew and French.
This song is dedicated to all the soldiers who fought in World War II, including those who fought at Normandy's Utah, Omaha, Gold, Juno and Sword Beaches in the D-Day Invasion;
and to the MILLIONS of Jewish victims who lost their lives during the Nazi Holocaust.
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posted July 11, 2017 12:00 AM            

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The U.S. Constitution is not an excuse. I don't agree with racism, but I will defend their First Amendment right to peacefully assemble. The name-calling is getting played out. I take it that you defend violent acts?

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posted July 11, 2017 12:01 AM            

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Oopsie! The Democrats' long sordid history with the Klan and racism:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

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posted July 11, 2017 12:18 AM            

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And? President Trump can't control those nut jobs and who they vote for. The movie is called Hillary's America. It's relevant today.

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posted July 13, 2017 01:46 PM            

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I'm sorry that you're against the U.S. Constitution, but I'm not surprised that the First Amendment of free speech bothers you (except for when it's CNN), since the left riots against it constantly. Yes, the counter-protesters had a right to be there, but they had no right to block them from their vehicles, commit violent acts, or throw tear gas. That's not okay. That's the kind of fascism you accuse the Klan of.

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posted July 13, 2017 02:00 PM            

It does sound like more than necessary force was used.. tho protesters had the right to be there too its hard to say what chain of events really led to this standoff .. but if the protesters really blocked them from their cars doesn't LOOK justifiable.

At first glance

posted July 14, 2017 03:18 PM            

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Oopsie. try some relevance to the present. White Supremacists claimed victory for rump on election night, and have been crawling out of the woodwork, trying to claim this country as their own, when it no more belongs to them alone, than it does to me or you.

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Who are those white supremacists who claimed victory on November 8th? Go ahead, say Steve Bannon, and Steven Miller... and lose all credibility.

BTW, that youtube video is historically accurate AND, the Klan is a democrat organization.

posted July 15, 2017 04:44 PM            

Keeping to the spirituality....
Yes, they helped him get 'born again' inside his spirit.
But spiritually??? he is a newborn-infant. He's going to have to grow and become spiritually mature. THAT takes many (a decade!) of quality years being spiritually pastored/mentored, and a "willingness" on his part to apply it and grow.
(And personally, I don't trust many of the dogmatic preachers, who twist the meanings of God's Word-- That is a case of when the Spirit of the Law weighs MORE than out of context use of scripture, used for nefarious reasons.)


Unless GOD performs and downloads a special Conversion-experience (like Paul on the Road to Damascus), where he GENUINELY Radically Internally 'Sees The Light', he cannot really say he's truly transformed (Being born-again, Again, is a Gift from the Holy Spirit, catapulting someone into a whole other experience and Level of Christianity (blends and folds-in the Supernatural in a ~new and wild way).
Unless he personally is able (inside himself) to seek that kind of intimacy, OR, that God just gives him a Sudden Download granting him an instant permanent accelerated Transformative Experience, he will remain on a shallower level... unenlightened, underdeveloped christian.

He doesn't have awakened-capacity (yet).
If(when?? *always an optimist, LOL*) he DOES, we will see the results. There will be a shift, and a big difference. He'll be able to govern through the Highest Qualities of what a Great Leader shines through, and earns from his people---

Honor, for being a person of Compassion?

I was impressed, that he was able to be moved-within when he saw all the gassed dead-babies in a foreign country. It seemed to change him...
He needs to apply that kind of sensitivity to his own country now.

Seems that was a piece of 'waking up' inside. He's not a businessman. He's a President now. Statistics and numbers represent HUMAN LIVES, not cash ledgers that can be scrapped, recycled and reinvented with no real felt-loss. When a live person becomes dead, that's not equivalent to a paper business-bankruptcy.

He has GOT to AWAKEN... and REALIZE 'who' he is, and what we are. We are human. We suffer grief-- when we lose loved ones, and our health and wellbeingness; and in wars and riots and groups of HATERS, who ACT out Harms on their Neighbor.

Being President is not a job title---
There are dire and severe biological living consequences now.
He didn't 'realize' what it would take to hold this nations highest office, to stand in a place that demands High Morals and Ethics, and a sense of supernatural Responsibility.

He stands in the GAP for US... and by Ripple Effect on this planet, All of HUMANITY.

The blood has been already spilt-- for all kinds of liberties and freedoms, (racial, genetic discriminations, woman's suffrage, wars). The blood and suffering speaks-- memorialized in stone and plaques; and in every cell of the individual and collective human spirit.

You keep track of all my sorrows.
You have collected all my tears in your bottle.
-Psalm 56:8
- Revelation 6:10 (how long....?)

posted July 15, 2017 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Oopsie. try some relevance to the present. White Supremacists claimed victory for rump on election night, and have been crawling out of the woodwork, trying to claim this country as their own, when it no more belongs to them alone, than it does to me or you.

Who are those white supremacists who claimed victory on November 8th? Go ahead, say Steve Bannon, and Steven Miller... and lose all credibility.

BTW, that youtube video is historically accurate AND, the Klan is a democrat organization.