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Topic: Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest group
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Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted August 13, 2017 01:31 PM
  
As i said when you open a rally with torches and bats and attacking peaceful objectors.. expect an equal and opposite response. Perhsps the students and citizens should have locked themselves indoors until the peacocks had satisfied their strutting needs. Like Good Germans SOME of the opposition were violent. Most were nonviolent. ALL the RIGHT UNITERS were armed and aggressive. Perhaps you think we also should have stood by and made speeches about Pearl Harbor? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 13, 2017 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
The KKK is not an alt-right group.
Anyone who doesn't slurp from the Fake News trough would know all that.
It's an alt-right gathering (more like ready to lynch), and promoted on sites like stormfront, which is connected to the KKK - apparently, they have all kinds of different factions. Try looking up the site yourself. The white supremacists attacked peaceful counter-protesters. http://twitter.com/Tropophobe/status/896193985122881536 IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 13, 2017 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I see you refuse to condemn the left leaning groups that wore helmets and brought bats to attack the nationalists who were legally rallying as allowed by a judge's ruling. Duly noted.
The only bats I saw (and poles) were on the "right". Like those that were used to beat the black kid, where police did nothing to help. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 13, 2017 03:05 PM
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teasel
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posted August 13, 2017 03:14 PM
http://www.theroot.com/interview-20-year-old-deandre-harris-speaks-out-about-1797796038 IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 13, 2017 03:54 PM
When you watch certain media that tell you what to think, then you only see part of the picture. BLM brought weapons. ANTIFA wore helmets and brought bats. I still don't hear denouncing from you. It's okay for the left to maim and murder, as long as you disagree with the message of the victims, isn't it?IP: Logged |
pire
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posted August 13, 2017 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
When you watch certain media that tell you what to think, then you only see part of the picture. BLM brought weapons. ANTIFA wore helmets and brought bats. I still don't hear denouncing from you. It's okay for the left to maim and murder, as long as you disagree with the message of the victims, isn't it?
The only murder saturday was not from anti fa but from white supremacist IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 13, 2017 05:50 PM
I was speaking generally concerning all acts of violence in the past by the alt left. Violence and racism, bigotry, and extremism should be condemned on all sides.IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4917
From: shamballa
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posted August 13, 2017 07:04 PM
Youre right of course Randall.. however this started and finished with Unite the Right inviting violence with torches and killing unarmed people with cars... and you are defending this call to violence by pointing out that it was answered. The vast majority of the counterprotesters were nonviolentIP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 13, 2017 07:40 PM
Unlike those here who by their silence seem to condone (as per their own stated standards of a failure to expressly state condemnation being equal to condoning it) violence from the left toward people who think differently from them, I'm not defending anything...other than simply the First Amendment right of all groups to peacefully assemble and rally, especially those groups who hold unpopular opinions. IP: Logged |
pire
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posted August 13, 2017 07:50 PM
Nazi ideology wasn't all that unpopular in gernamy's 1930's Seems some are gone back then while the rest is moving towards global unity 2.0 ;-) IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 13, 2017 08:43 PM
You seem confused, Cat. A call to violence is wearing helmuts and bringing bats to a rally, like ANTIFA did.IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4917
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2017 08:48 PM
The party started Friday night with no antifa just white righters unexpected on campus with torches and bats. The few opposing were unarmed but beaten on anyway. You are on record as saying the right are the peaceful protesters, remember? The news you absorb also tells you what to think.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/003479.html
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pire
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posted August 13, 2017 09:09 PM
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pire
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posted August 13, 2017 09:12 PM
^^ that is why the WORLD loves the US citizens
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Randall
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posted August 13, 2017 09:14 PM
That's not how it went down. I learned the facts from reporters on the scene. Speaking of the driver, he is going to face several federal charges that will take precedence over the local charges, and anyone who knew about it in advance will be charged with conspiracy.IP: Logged |
pire
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posted August 13, 2017 09:15 PM
Here is a funny page where it is easy to have a laugh for open minded people
http://www.facebook.com/AngryAmericanPolitics/ IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 13, 2017 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
You seem confused, Cat. A call to violence is wearing helmuts and bringing bats to a rally, like ANTIFA did.
Hmm. Some of the men they were trying to identify as attackers, were wearing helmets and holding weapons. You seem to be the one who's confused. They were white supremacists. Funny how those who were quick to laugh at women wearing pink hats at a march, have said nothing about the men who wore helmets, carried weapons, and shields - they looked like they were playing dress-up. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 13, 2017 09:46 PM
Funny that you chose the word "unexpected,"Cat. The gathering was approved by a judge.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 13, 2017 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
That's not how it went down. I learned the facts from reporters on the scene. Speaking of the driver, he is going to face several federal charges that will take precedence over the local charges, and anyone who knew about it in advance will be charged with conspiracy.
We've watched it as it happened, from people streaming it over video (no editing). Once again, you do not have the upper hand in knowing stuff - you do not know the truth, or express it. You provide your biased viewpoint. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 13, 2017 09:56 PM
Once again, you don't denounce the violence on the left, and once again, duly noted. I guess that means you approve of violence, as long as it's against people who express opinions you don't agree with. That's what the ANTIFA believe, and that's make them the very thing they claim to abhor: fascists.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 13, 2017 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Once again, you don't denounce the violence on the left, and once again, duly noted. I guess that means you approve of violence, as long as it's against people who express opinions you don't agree with. That's what the ANTIFA believe, and that's make them the very thing they claim to abhor: fascists.
Once again, you are wrong. In the past, I have denounced it, when it happened. Still waiting for trump supporters to denounce the nazi's that were marching Friday night and yesterday, and beating people. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4917
From: shamballa
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posted August 13, 2017 11:18 PM
TheSaturday gathering was approved by the judge. The surprise appearance on campus thr night before was not.. or it wouldn't have been a surprise. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4917
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2017 11:38 PM
Fascism is not a synonym for violence. Violence by the govt against all dissenters is an element of fascism. The left is not without its fascistic elements. However you like to pretend they are the only suppressive violent faction here and that all the left is operating this way. Which is BS. Not all conservatives are violent but these guys came with violence in mind. The opposition came to shut them down. And their anti-immigration-anti-anything-not-white program. I don't even think Lee should be taken down. He's part of history. But i think those who are still ****** off that the Rebels lost should try their own prescription and go back "where they came from". they are the sun's of immigrants who refused to learn the native language. Maybe we should give them Georgia and see how they manage the plantations without slaves? You game for that? IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4917
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2017 11:39 PM
You dont appear to have taken time to read the eyewitness report (filmed) about the torch convention Friday night. Which was not approved by any judge.. nor was attacking unarmed silent "others" expressing disagreement with a sign. When you send out an APB online to gather to"take thr country bsck" you are basically saying anyone who doesn't want it your way should be shut up. Of course people are going to show up and of course some of them will be ready to "bring it" to such a come on. Yes there were many Germans who backed the Nazis. And there were many who felt squeamish about standing up to them. IP: Logged |
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