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posted December 17, 2017 06:50 PM            

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Rosenstein already said President Trump could tell him to fire Mueller, and he implied that he would follow those orders, or rather, he didn't say he wouldn't. There's more than enough reason to do so. Mueller has already violated the 4th Amendment, so everything resulting from that is fruit of the poisonous tree. But President Trump won't, because he wants exoneration. It's funny that the FBI tried to invent an imaginary crime of collusion, yet it's the Dems' evidence of collusion that is surfacing! You have to love the irony of Karma!

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posted December 17, 2017 08:03 PM            

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How has he violated the 4th?

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posted December 17, 2017 09:25 PM            

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He seized the Trump transition e-mails without a warrant. He claims that a government server was used, so he didn't need a warrant. That is incorrect. There are exceptions for terrorism (and a few others), but these exceptions don't apply, so he should have gotten a warrant.

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posted December 18, 2017 12:15 AM            

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Rosenstein:

Mueller's office said his team has obtained all the evidence it's using in its investigation properly. And Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed him, told Congress last week that he monitors Mueller's operation closely and has seen nothing improper.

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posted December 18, 2017 01:20 PM            

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Your analysis is Alleged.. by some third party.. and denied by the SC office. He said/she said, in other words

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posted December 18, 2017 03:50 PM            

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<< He seized the Trump transition e-mails without a warrant. He claims that a government server was used, so he didn't need a warrant. That is incorrect. There are exceptions for terrorism (and a few others), but these exceptions don't apply, so he should have gotten a warrant. >>

Let the Courts decide that. Mueller is a Patriot, and a Republican. And Trump is expecting 100% Exoneration for himself, because he claimed he did not collude with Russia. He did not say Junior did not collude or that Jared did not collude.

Let the Law take its own course without Obstruction of Justice. Let Putin's agents be purged from US Institutions. Putin's a deadly killer who has silence many a Patriotic Russian Civil Rights Activist. If his Hydra Tentacles Grow in USA, there will be non-stop Civil Wars as he wins the Cold War once and for all by subverting the US Constitution/Bill of Rights from within, creating a Neo-Fascist Client State.

FBI is more trustworthy than Real Estate Cash Launderers and those like Manafort or those who used Scum like Manafort.

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posted December 18, 2017 07:19 PM            

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He said he obtained the e-mails properly, yet he got no warrant. Was there a seizure? Was it lawful? Not unless it falls within one of the exceptions, which it does not. But bottom line, if there were anything there, it would have been leaked already.

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posted December 18, 2017 09:29 PM            

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The IRS can use threats and intimidation (through fear of an audit) and walk into any bank without a warrant and get your records, but that doesn't make it legal. A third party has a responsibility to safeguard your confidential information. Since when can the outgoing administration grab all of the thousands of e-mails of the incoming one? If this were to have happened by President Trump as he departed while a newly-elected Democrat took over, the left would be crying fascism and Hitler. People have reasonable expectations of privacy, and they don't expect e-mails to their attorneys or to the incoming POTUS to be read by outsiders without a warrant or subpoena. You can't say: 1. They were public officials, so it's government property and 2. There's no executive privilege, because he's not President yet. You have to pick a legal theory. You can't have it both ways. It's easy peasy getting a subpoena or a warrant. By not doing so, Mueller was just sloppy. Flynn should be completely exonerated, because this was exclusionary evidence via fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. And using that dossier to obtain a FISA warrant was a crime.

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posted December 18, 2017 11:57 PM            

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Two words: Banned words? Two words: Fake news! A POTUS definitely has the authority to do so, aa Obama did when he prohibited "radical Islamic terrorism." But the CDC story was false.
http://www.snopes.com/2017/12/15/trump-administration-bans-cdc-officials-using-certain-words/

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