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Randall
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posted December 16, 2017 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As usual, your logic is flawed. Two candidates that Jones beat? What have you been smoking? That was before the Moore allegations. Try to keep up!

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posted December 16, 2017 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You keep up. Strange was unable to even win thr primary. Moore, who beat him, couldn't beat a Dem in a "safe" Repub seat. That is two failed Repubs. And now the Appointed Not Elected double loser is going to vote on a crucial bill for which the Repubs otherwise don't have the votes.. if they did they wouldn't have to resort to underhanded tactics

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posted December 16, 2017 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the Dems had anything to offer other than "resist," we wouldn't have to help the country alone.

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posted December 16, 2017 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said. From the party that held the justice department and country to ransom for years. Your. Guy. Lost. Get over it😉

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posted December 16, 2017 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally accept it. The people of Alabama have spoken. Republicans don't scream hopelessly at the sky when we lose an election. Or riot. Or make up false narratives and fake crimes.

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posted December 16, 2017 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
K Randall if you say so.

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2017 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Democrat Senator from Alabama is like a slice of pie on Michael Moore's lap. It disappears fast...or somewhere it gets lost.

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posted December 16, 2017 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But why do you now shift the goalpost to "Alleged" Pedophile for Roy Moore when you affirmed that the Jury for conviction is the Alabama Electorate?
Kindly stick to "Convicted Pedophile" for Roy Moore. Convicted by the Good People of Alabama.

And if Hillary is the stain, why the palpable fear of Mueller's professional probe?
One of Trump's cheer leaders wanted entire FBI to be terminated. Nincompoop judges with no experience are being appointed. This is a War on American Institutions like never before.

A Few Dollars more will not get the Republic back once lost to Russian Agents and Fascism.



Yes! And plz stop moving the goal post, randall, i'm beginning to feel dizzy

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posted December 16, 2017 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those who haven't been keeping up (i.e, those who only watch fake news), the whole Russian collusion thing was made up by certain biased Hillary supporters in the FBI.

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posted December 16, 2017 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Reality check: The Dems could not have won in Alabama against ANY other candidate but Roy Moore. I know it, and you know it.


Umm, not really. Allow me to tell you what i know before you assume to know what i know


What i know is this. Strange was endorsed by 45 but lost in the primary bc alabama peeps didn't think he was good enuf.


And then for some strange reason, they thought moore shld represent them, so they backed him, only to be disillusioned by his pedophile past as well as finding out abt what a cr*p judge he was all along.


They knew that by doing write-ins, the democrat candidate wld obviously win, but they still preferred to write in a candidate rather than vote for moore, inspite of 45 urging them to think of moore as diet coke


Summary conclusion 1.: alabamans prefer a democrat over a cr*p judge pedophile (no longer alleged bc they voted on his guilt). They don't mind upsetting a 20-25 yr deep red history to elect a dem


Summary conclusion 2.: i'm not an alabaman, have nevr visited that state, but geez, is moore the best they had to offer???


So, in response to your comment that the dems cldn't have won against anyone else but roy moore...from summary conclusion 2, we know alabamans offered up their very best...roy moore. Logically that wld mean ev other candidate except for roy moore wld have lost...acc to alabamans. Who am i to argue w/ their thought process...given that i'm not from alabama and have nevr even visited?

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posted December 17, 2017 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the write-ins were them voting their conscious, along with staying home. If they wanted the sock puppet of Schumer and Pelosi, they would have voted for him. Big difference. And they chose Moore before the allegations. That doesn't mean they thought every other candidate would lose to Jones. It meant they chose Moore as the one they wanted to hold the seat, as this is a deep red state, and any Republican would have easily defeated Jones. It ain't rocket science.

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posted December 17, 2017 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, the write-ins were them voting their conscious, along with staying home. If they wanted the sock puppet of Schumer and Pelosi, they would have voted for him. Big difference. And they chose Moore before the allegations. That doesn't mean they thought every other candidate would lose to Jones. It meant they chose Moore as the one they wanted to hold the seat, as this is a deep red state, and any Republican would have easily defeated Jones. It ain't rocket science.


You have a strange one sided way of looking at things. It doesn't matter if they voted w/ their conscience, or their toes, the point is they knew jones wld be elected if they stayed at home or did write-ins. The point is they preferred this over choosing moore whom they decided was a pedophile plus exposed for being a terrible judge. The point is they took this stand DESPITE 45 and the RNC and other GOPs plus bannon supporting moore. The point is that they were able to put the corruption of party politics aside and choose a dem over a repub...smth that seems you and jwhip, and the RNC, 45, and banon find impossible to do. No matter how they voted him in, the end result is that they voted him in.


And THAT ain't rocket science, no matter how you spin the facts...or shift the goal posts

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posted December 17, 2017 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I meant conscience. No, I don't expect you to understand the difference. People who are religious and their convictions are true have to live with their choices. It doesn't matter what the end result is. They probably figured Moore would still win anyway. But even if not, they just made sure didn't vote for him; nor did they vote for the baby killer.

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posted December 17, 2017 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, I meant conscience. No, I don't expect you to understand the difference. People who are religious and their convictions are true have to live with their choices. It doesn't matter what the end result is. They probably figured Moore would still win anyway. But even if not, they just made sure didn't vote for him; nor did they vote for the baby killer.


Your comment is based on zero facts...all speculation and supposition.


"They probably figured Moore would still win anyway."

And you know this bc you interviewed 22k people who wrote in their votes??

"...nor did they vote for the baby killer"

On the roy moore thread you said you used baby killer bc that was jones' stand, it wasn't your view. I showed you evidence of his view on abortion via his own words in his interview in which he said that it is a woman's choice and her doctor's if for medical reasons a late pregnancy has to be terminated.

[This is a wise, sane and reasonable choice since no politician shld ever be allowed to decide what medical procedure a woman can and cannot undergo...just like no doctor shld make political decisions for the country, unless trained in politics.]


Your repeated referral to doug jones as a baby killer is clearly not based on truth. It is deliberately misleading, based on some alt right fiction you've heard, and its inflammatory connotations show your passive aggressive anger and dissatisfaction that doug jones won


I don't see any point in discussing this further

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posted December 17, 2017 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never said that wasn't my view. I also didn't say they thought Moore would win anyway. I said "probably." Who knows? All we know is that they didn't vote for Jones. If they wanted Jones, they would have voted for him. As I stated, you wouldn't understand.

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posted December 17, 2017 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moore was Bannons favourite. Before and after the brouhaha. He was also a nasty candidate whom the Alabama public knew from experience. Unless thr primaries were rigged a la 2016, one has to assume there wasn't a
better candidate who could have beaten Jones. However the media circus shone more light on him as an alternstive, so did him a favour.

Also many Christians are starting to question whether they should hold their noses and vote for crooks and powergrabbers ..or adhere to their faith principles.

That does not include Tromp and the mealy mouthed Repubs who waived their principles publicly in hopes of a win by any means necessary.

As the Christian author i quoted called it..Machiavellian.

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posted December 18, 2017 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last Dem Senator in Alabama lasted, in fact is still there isn't he? Tho he did crawl across the aisle when Repubs gained the majority in 98.

Since everyone assumes Alabama is a solid Repub state its worth noticing that the Repub Shelby beat to the Senate in 86 was the "first Republican elected in Alabama since Reconstruction"(wiki) .. who got in on the wave that elected Reagan.. and that as the natiin voted cumulatively for Dems as Reagan's term progressed, Alabama reverted to type in electing Shelby.

So don't be so sure Jones is a fluke. One party govts have a way of irritating the voting public

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posted December 18, 2017 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was a very conservative Democrat--a veritable oxymoron today. You might say he was a DINO. He's still there, because he's a long-time Republican. Yes, Alabama will turn blue, CA will turn red, and aliens from Andromeda will be our newest immigrants.

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posted December 18, 2017 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We should build a space wall. They want our jobs.

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posted December 18, 2017 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I totally accept it. The people of Alabama have spoken. Republicans don't scream hopelessly at the sky when we lose an election. Or riot. Or make up false narratives and fake crimes.

No, they start screaming long before the election, that it's rigged against them, and totally unfair. They sound like lynch mobs going after their opponent. The threats for uncivil disobedience, came before we even voted. "If she's elected..."

And then there were eight years plus of people who wouldn't shut up about Obama, and STILL bring up bill and Hillary.

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posted December 18, 2017 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, you mean how Hillary and Obama didn't accept the results of the election--especially after Hillary said during the election that not doing so would be a danger to our democracy?

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posted December 18, 2017 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hillary never requested s recount or refused to concede. Stein requested a recount. You could say Tromp wouldn't have won against any other Dem but its beside thr point and goes in the fantasy category. Right alongside your attempts to marginalize Jones winning.

Yes Shelby was a conservative Dem. There are still a few around. But the fact is your belief that Alabama is permanently Repub is based on recent history and until the late 80s it was as solidly Dem as it has recently been Repub.

The continued use of the term babykiller is just brainwashing hyperbole which gives you away as a Fox product. Your prerogative

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posted December 18, 2017 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hillary never requested s recount or refused to concede. Stein requested a recount. You could say Tromp wouldn't have won against any other Dem but its beside thr point and goes in the fantasy category. Right alongside your attempts to marginalize Jones winning.

Yes Shelby was a conservative Dem. There are still a few around. But the fact is your belief that Alabama is permanently Repub is based on recent history and until the late 80s it was as solidly Dem as it has recently been Repub.

The continued use of the term babykiller is just brainwashing hyperbole which gives you away as a Fox product. Your prerogative




Ya nailed it sistah!!

Wish i cld be as succinct. I use too many words.

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posted December 18, 2017 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A recount wouldn't have helped. Hillary was crushed in the electoral college. The Dems used other methods to undermine President Trump in their non-acceptance of his win.

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posted December 18, 2017 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And CA went for Reagan. So, what's your point? BTW, if you watch the FOX News interview with Jones, he sure sounds like a Republican! He doesn't want to lose that seat!

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