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pire
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posted January 30, 2018 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
It is highly unethical to release cherry picked interpretation by Nunes, someone who is supposed to have recused himself from the Russian Interference Investigation. Better to be 100% Transparent and declassify the entire source data barring information that outs assets.
Else, the entire DOJ and FBI will be destroyed as credible institutions. As two former CIA Directors said today, USA needs an independent FBI/DOJ even years from now.
Trump Idolators are behaving as if Trump is going to Rule for decades as a "Dear Leader".
He is not. But the Institutions being wrecked to protect his financial crimes will destabilize USA in the long run.

If the tide turns from 2018 and a young Bernie type idealistic Democrat President takes office in 2020 with a Democrat Senate and Democrat Congress, the revenge acts for what GOP is doing today will transform the USA into a 100% Socialist Communist/Marixst type State with fully armed Citizens and 10s of millions of Illegals. They might charge 50 to 70% Taxes to the rich to make up for the cuts today. At that time, when right thinking Republicans rightly warn against this, the Democrats just have to use "Whatabout Trump" whataboutery to drive in the final nails of Putin's Plan.

No FBI Agent or DOJ or CIA or NSA or Pentagon official will open his or her mouth that time, that is what will be the State of the Institutions.

The Coming Nuclear Explosion is of American Institutions. GOP is not protecting an Abraham Lincoln or a Jefferson or Washington, they are protecting a known Money Launderer and serial Philanderer who used "Bone Spurs" excuse for draft dodging, and does not care two hoots about the consequences of his actions be it while tweeting or pressurizing independent Institutions.
He could not even implement Sanctions against Russia that were voted 98-2 by Senate. This alone is 100% circumstantial evidence of him being hand in glove with Putin's interests.


Eloquently put, institution vs personality

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jwhop
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posted January 30, 2018 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure all the other leftist lunatic nutters feel the same way you do.

Protect the assorted a$$holes who attempted to use the government powers to overthrow the election system of the US and when that failed, overthrow the President.

Now that the spotlight is being shined on them, they're running for their holes like the cockroaches they are.

The House Committee voted to release the 4 page memo.

Now, release the memo.

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posted January 30, 2018 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Memo isn't cherry picked. Some of the Memo is actually less than the whole truth (which is far worse), because much of the intel it is based on can't be released.

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posted January 31, 2018 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The Memo isn't cherry picked. Some of the Memo is actually less than the whole truth (which is far worse), because much of the intel it is based on can't be released.

If that is true, who told you?

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posted January 31, 2018 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Straight from some of the horses' mouths on the committee interviewed on FOX News. The Memo is read in concert with other intelligence information, but that can't be released, because it reveals how intelligence is collected, which is highly classified. The Memo is also classified, but no information in the Memo that would be harmful to the process, although, names are mentioned. The FBI still says it shouldn't be released.

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posted February 01, 2018 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For sake of GOP Credibility, Nunes' Memo has to be released by this weekend.

White Supremacist Conspiracy MAGAns on Twitter are now going nuts without the Memo and are blaming Hillary/Obama/Schiff for parking a garbage truck on the Amtrak Rails to kill 200 Republican Lawmakers.

If the Memo is not released, they will start shooting down Democrats with their Assault Rifles as according to their brainwashing, each and every Democrat Lawmaker is either a Cannibal or a Pedophile or a "Spirit Cooker".

In the interest of American Lives, FBI be damned, just release the Memo.

Meanwhile, a catchy pertinent Limerick (not mine!):

An FBI fellow named Peter,
Was seen as a pro-Clinton cheater,
Yet far from abet her,
He drafted the letter,
That probably helped to defeat her.

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posted February 01, 2018 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
For sake of GOP Credibility, Nunes' Memo has to be released by this weekend.

White Supremacist Conspiracy MAGAns on Twitter are now going nuts without the Memo and are blaming Hillary/Obama/Schiff for parking a garbage truck on the Amtrak Rails to kill 200 Republican Lawmakers.

If the Memo is not released, they will start shooting down Democrats with their Assault Rifles as according to their brainwashing, each and every Democrat Lawmaker is either a Cannibal or a Pedophile or a "Spirit Cooker".

In the interest of American Lives, FBI be damned, just release the Memo.

Meanwhile, a catchy pertinent Limerick (not mine!):

An FBI fellow named Peter,
Was seen as a pro-Clinton cheater,
Yet far from abet her,
He drafted the letter,
That probably helped to defeat her.


Get off the sauce. It's rotting your brain.

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posted February 02, 2018 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be patient JWH, the Memo will be released in 24 hours. Have stocked up on Popcorn and Chicken Wings to see the GOP drama over the next couple of weeks. Wonder why Ryan is not contesting again, in the prime of his career. One of your fellow jokers name Posobiec proved to be the Epitomy of the brainlessness in your party of traitors.
He tried to cheat on his wife and got busted. To threaten those who exposed him, that lying weasel tweeted: "I am going to report to the FBI"... This after about a 1000 tweets and retweets ranting and raving against all FBI Agents out to get his beloved Trump. You all have the Lemmings Disease.
To support a Ruble Laundering White Icon, you will be ready to destroy Institutions like FBI and DOJ? You all start crying when a bunch of Arabic Speaking chaps brandish a pistol, running off seeking the nearest FBI Agent for protection. But there will be none. You all have been complicit in devastating the morale of one of the greatest Agencies ever known in a Developed Country.

Even during 9-11, they gave the warning, the CIA was the slacker. FBI was not spying on MetaData, NSA was.
JFK conspiracies point to CIA Black Ops and Communist Agents, not FBI.

1000s of Mob bosses have been caught by them.
1000s of psychos caught for your safety.
1000s of swindlers taken out.

And you want to destroy them for the sake of beloved Vlad and his financiers? Manafort and Sater and Agalarovs have become more beloved to you than Selfless Feds?

History will not be kind to your generation.


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posted February 02, 2018 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not about destroying the FBI or DOJ. It's about exposing the top leadership (not the rank and file), so this won't ever happen again.

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posted February 03, 2018 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is always a bad apple in most organizations. A Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney or Ben Rhodes have been responsible for a lot of political conflict.
But FBI and DOJ have never been so problematic. Any issue with leadership could have been resolved elegantly.
Comey, Wray, Rosenstein, Mueller are all Career Republicans. They will never support Clinton Corruption. If they are investigating collusion/laundering, it is because they have seen Russian Black Money lobbying since 2013.

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posted February 03, 2018 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, but they did support a Hillary win. They were afraid of her. This is the FBI, and they were afraid of Hillary. Let that sink in for a while.

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posted February 04, 2018 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This means logically they have a green signal to investigate her for Clinton Foundation loot (since the days of the Haiti Earthquake.) for past two years. Hillary is powerless since 2016 yet even Trump Appointees like Wray and Rod
are investigating Trump only for the serious Money Laundering and "Kompromat". Trump should have rebuked Putin, should have termed FSB as terrorists, should have banned Kremlin connected than hire them [Carter Page, Manafort] and should have pursued stringent sanctions against Russia. He has more tweets against NFL and against FBI and DOJ than against Putin, who is now urging Turkey to attack US Troops while assisting North Korea with food and weapons tech.
Putin has killed dozens of opponents using pollonium assassination, who have Comey or Mccabe or Mueller harmed other than Mafia and Murderers? Comey and Peter drafted the letter that was released just before elections to get rid of Hilary's lead in 2016, they all supported Trump's win against all odds, and now why stab them in the back?

Problem is with weakened institutions, every corrupt Mafia Family will walk free and if NSA, FBI, CIA and Military Intelligence are pitted against each other, who gains?
I have seen tweets of "MAGA Patriots" threaten to kill US Feds if Trump requests them too. They are calling for US Army versus Military all out war. Hannity, Fitton and Corsi want entire FBI Shut down. Is this the New America that GOP wants? An out and out Civil War of heavily armed Democrats versus heavily armed MAGA Conservatives?

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posted February 08, 2018 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And now the State Dept.

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posted February 09, 2018 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ I'm with you, the erosion of the legitimacy of our institutions isn't good, in fact its quite scary. The republicans last dying gasp to maintain power is dragging down our democracy with it.

This country seems to be spinning towards a socialist revolution, our continued inward turn will make us lose our standing as a super power. And this is all because the plutocrats can't ever get enough money. If they'd just share a little bit and respect the constitution this wouldn't be happening. Now instead we're likely going to see a left backlash that is too radical, too extreme, and plunge us into some Venezuelan nightmare. But this seems to happen in most societies so I guess the US isn't exceptional after all.

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posted February 09, 2018 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of this damning evidence about the sheer depth of Democrat corruption and all you can do is mention Republicans?

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posted February 10, 2018 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hang on, the Democrat Corruption is linked only to the Clinton Foundation finance deals in Haiti.
End of the day it is about one family, and they are not in power.
The GOP Tax Cuts on the other hand are a trillion dollar theft from future generations.
The big shots are not creating new jobs but are just buying back shares and are even stopping research because their future profits from new investments are ALREADY given in the Tax Cuts.
Motivation to work more or earn more has been cut off.

The Economy is doing very good, and these are the times to hike taxes not cut them.
For any future downturn will have trillions of dollars of deficits and no tax returns to fund them. Thus, GOP Corruption is more damning for USA in the long run. Clinton corruption if proven is just chicken-sh*t. It would matter had Hillary won, but she is out of power for 15 months now.

@Blueroamer: I did not think about your point of view, and the more I see it, the more scary it is. Radical Left Economics is just as destructive as Right Wing/tea Party theft of welfare funds. We need a resounding Democrat Win but with Level headed Leadership.

And Russian Hacking of fudging votes has been proven now in about 15 states. Putin can theoretically fudge the elections in favor of a radical left leadership in 2020 if he wants to because GOP will not investigate Putin's hackers nor will any FBI Agent dare do anything about it as Trumpkins will call her or him a Deep State Agent for stopping Putin. GOP is worshiping Julian Assange over FBI Agents, that is the current state of America.

The Conspiracy Theorists have a one track Mind that Rothschild/Soros is the Big Evil. There are 13 Families and a Committe of 300, all billionaires. This is the government with maximum billionaires involved. So all the so called Pentagon Patriotism against Rothschild/Soros [as per conspiracy circles] is a joint action of another group of Illuminati with Russian allegiance to enslave Americans than let old boy Rothschild make all the profits.

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posted February 10, 2018 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@IQ: “The Economy is doing very good, and these are the times to hike taxes not cut them.”

Actually, the cuts absolutely were the right thing to do. The main problem both the democrats and the republicans have is a propensity for runaway spending, since neither can agree what to prioritize or what to cut. Both sides think throwing money at a problem will solve things, which is why we are where we are today. They want to look good to their constituents and appear to be addressing the needs of the people.

There is an outrageous number of redundant social programs, and none of them even do the job sufficiently. If we could cut those in half, it would make a tremendous difference. The state is grossly inefficient, and these tasks should be addressed on a far more local level with local funding and local organization for the people who actually need it. Individuals are much more effective and efficient at managing their our pocketbooks. When I am at the store, I know that no matter how much my headache is bothering me, it’s still more important to buy food than Advil, and I would never spend more money than I actually have.

The state has grown way too big, and a serious cutback on redundant social welfare programs is the solution to the deficit issue. These comprise something like 70% or so of the spending wasted by our government. Democrats like to point fingers at the military budget, but that compromises a tiny percent of the total spending (less than 10%, I think it was), moreover is actually one of the very, very few things the federal level of government has obligate purview over. As a major global player, having our military cut back to pre-WW2 levels over the past decade is exposing not just our soldiers, but the rest of the world to unnecessary risk. Most of what our military does is maintain stability in areas of the world that would otherwise self-destruct or spill into surrounding areas until they are able to stand on their own two feet. There is every reason to give funding to the military right now - at least to bolster it back to a more sufficient level.

A balanced budget should be the top priority here, and cutting taxes AND culling the runaway spending is what we need. Placing more democrats in office will not get that done, either. What we need are fiscally responsible officials, and those tend to lean right, regardless of what letter is next to their name. Independent, Libertarian, and other third party reps are probably our best bet, but few people actually vote that way.

Ideally, taking just the two major parties in mind, democrats probably work best on the local level and republicans on the state. Neutral parties should be at the federal level.

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posted February 10, 2018 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good points @BlindWriter.
I should have clarified, I suggested huge tax cuts for the middle class to stimulate spending and increased taxes on the top 0.1% because they do not contribute to wealth generation in the middle class and poor, while being a huge burden on National Resources.

Yes, why not cut wasteful expenses or redundant expenses? That is all good.
And increase effective weapons/body armor for US Army than big wasteful ICBMs or more Nukes.

Biggest issue: Lack of Infrastructure Spending.
Another issue: Huge wastage in the Black Economy for funneling cash for Secret Projects. Any serious Civilian Audit of military expenses will prove this point.

Innovative Taxation like only 5% taxation on profits from first million dollars revenue
for "Made in America" factories will also work.

Cutting off compound interest from Student loans can be done too.

These are the times to do that when Economy is on an upswing.


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posted February 10, 2018 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poll: Americans ‘Overwhelmingly’ Believe Obama ‘Improperly Surveilled’ Trump Campaign
John Nolte
10 Feb 2018


An IBD/TIPP poll shows that “Americans overwhelmingly believe the Obama administration ‘improperly surveilled’ Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/10/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-believe-obama-improperly-surveilled-trump-campaign/

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posted February 10, 2018 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next up for the House Intelligence Committee is Memo #2, the Memo on the part the US State Department played in the phony Trump dossier to help Hillary The Corrupt win the election.


Former State Dept. Official: I Fed Oppo Research from Sidney Blumenthal to Christopher Steele
Kristina Wong
9 Feb 2018


Former Obama State Department official Jonathan Winer, in an attempt to come clean and shape the narrative before being exposed, confirmed that he passed on a dossier from Clinton operatives to the author of the infamous Trump dossier.
In an op-ed in the Washington Post on Thursday titled “Devin Nunes is investigating me. Here’s the truth,” Winer publicly confirmed reports that he had passed on a report he received from Clinton operatives to dossier author Christopher Steele in the fall of 2016, right before the election.

He also confirmed that those Clinton operatives were aware of the dossier effort — making Hillary Clinton’s denials of knowing about the dossier even less credible than they were already.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/09/former-state-dept-official-i-fed-oppo-research-from-sidney-blumenthal-to-christopher-steele/

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posted February 11, 2018 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom Del Beccaro: All Corrupt DOJ and FBI Roads Lead to Obama
Robert Kraychik
9 Feb 2018


Holistic analysis of the Justice Department (DOJ) and FBI’s interconnected and ostensible investigations of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump amount to “the worst abuse of political power in American history related to elections,” according to Tom Del Beccaro.
http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2018/02/09/tom-del-beccaro-corrupt-doj-fbi-roads-lead-obama/

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posted February 11, 2018 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*snicker* trump denies dems memo being released. Imagine that... him not being fair and honest.

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posted February 11, 2018 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GOP Rep Gohmert: Dem FISA Memo ‘Totally a Political Act,’ ‘Would Have Put Lives at Risk’
Jeff Poor
10 Feb 2018

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/10/gop-rep-gohmert-dem-fisa-memo-totally-political-act-put-lives-risk/

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posted February 12, 2018 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[b]GOP Rep Gohmert: Dem FISA Memo ‘Totally a Political Act,’ ‘Would Have Put Lives at Risk’
Jeff Poor
10 Feb 2018

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/10/gop-rep-gohmert-dem-fis a-memo-totally-political-act-put-lives-risk/ [/B]

Well now. He needed what sounds like a legit excuse didn`t he?!!
Those without trumpitis will never buy that contrived story.

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posted February 12, 2018 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't be so gullible, Juni. The Dem memo is filled with sources and methods, which they put in there deliberately, so they could portray President Trump as not being transparent. All this after the false hysteria of the Republican memo being the same way, when the Dems they knew that it wasn't.

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