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BlueRoamer
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posted February 14, 2018 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please send thoughts and prayers to Florida. Thoughts and prayers can go back in time and make the shooter not shoot things. Way more effective than reasonable gun control.

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posted February 14, 2018 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sighing, here. I've had the news on, but muted, because I needed a shower, and this is just insane. Another ******* school shooting.

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posted February 14, 2018 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we'd just arm the children with assault rifles this would never happen.

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posted February 14, 2018 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These shootings only occur in gun free zones.

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posted February 14, 2018 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Makes sense since you're living in a brain free zone.

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posted February 14, 2018 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We don't send thoughts and prayers to go back in time. We send thoughts and prayers to the families of the victims and out of respect. Those of us who have a heart and a soul, that is, both of which you are clearly lacking.

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posted February 15, 2018 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
These shootings only occur in gun free zones.

Not true. The one at the concert, security had weapons.

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posted February 15, 2018 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm talking about the school shootings.

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iQ
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posted February 15, 2018 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Complete UK/Australia/Japan type ban on Assault Rifles is the only way out. The Terrorist was not old enough to purchase a hand gun [2nd Amendment type gun] but was allowed to purchase an Assault Rifle [Something the Founding fathers never envisioned, such a mass killing device invented by maniacs for psychopaths.]

If only hand guns were allowed for self-protection, not a single mass shooting event would have occurred in America.

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posted February 15, 2018 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Massacres could have been prevented in many of these cases if people were armed. Not just the school shootings alone, but in shootings such as the Orlando club, as an example.

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posted February 15, 2018 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Ya, but on the other hand, it might also lead to people starting massacre over small stuff coz well...they're armed.

Nicolas looks so sensitive though in the pics, like someone who has been through a lot,very fearful eyes. I read he was bullied, even saw few examples of it on his insta posts, the way the rest seem to want to trample over this guy on those posts.

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posted February 15, 2018 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gun free zone? In Florida? Really?

Look at this list of incidents at schools from the Washington examiner debunking the popular outcry about "18 shootings in two months"..

Many of which are "only incidents not mass shootings".. incidents between armed students.. gun free zone?

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posted February 15, 2018 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is another clue to the problem.. continuous sensationalism creates an aura of glamour thru infamy to disturbed kids with no sense that they matter much in the world..

Or that anyone else does it seems.

And not enough parents who actually pay attention to what their kids are up to.. in this case simeone did notice and took responsible action:
http://www.yahoo.com/news/grandmother-turns-teen-finding-mass-152359140.html

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posted February 15, 2018 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The incident at the NSA had nothing to do with gun free zones did it?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nsa-shooting-20180214-story.html

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posted February 16, 2018 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This girls statement is seriously skewed and being misinterpreted. The video commentator makes some very sensible points about misunderstood evidence..
http://youtu.be/0HJBadduMB0

But there is a comment below from someone who lives near the school about choppers circling BEFORE AND WITHIN 10 MINS AFTER THE INCIDENT.. and that people telling this to the media are being blanked in coverage.. curious and curiouser

Meanwhile Don Wan is berating locals for not doing enough to stop the shooter.. tho HIS FBI had info on him for sometime earlier and nothing was done?

Perhaos acting on intelligence would be more effective than thoughts and prayers after the fact?

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posted February 16, 2018 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Complete UK/Australia/Japan type ban on Assault Rifles is the only way out. The Terrorist was not old enough to purchase a hand gun [2nd Amendment type gun] but was allowed to purchase an Assault Rifle [Something the Founding fathers never envisioned, such a mass killing device invented by maniacs for psychopaths.]

If only hand guns were allowed for self-protection, not a single mass shooting event would have occurred in America.


Catalina..... That video is stupid frivolous IGNORANT nonsense, and he is doing that TO MAKE A PROFIT at the expense of people in vulnerable 'shock'.

I saw his clip of the first girl interviewed, who was bizarrely saying that she thought there were two shooters?? That was her HEAD trying to reconcile what happened TO HER just then. THAT was a psychological skip/slip the mind can do in a dissociative state of shock.

And the interviewer.. "led" her, for creating his "content"???? ~despicable!!!

NO WAY---
When I watch the nuances of her face, body language... SHE IS TRAUMATIZED... her 'mind' can't deal with this right now.

I want to condemn the perverted NEED of some people to take advantage and make money OFF a TRAUMATIC serious tragedy, like that youtuber and others. But, look at what he does? It drives revenue for him.
Follow THE MONEY .

And I seriously doubt that many who were interviewed were 'clear' about what happened.

She, her classmates, the school and community sustained an egregious wound to the psyche.
Some will be haunted by this experience FOR LIFE..
This was a LIFE-CHANGING psychological TRAUMATIC event for those personally involved.

So many PRAYERS...

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posted February 16, 2018 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is basically saying that people taking her statement as proof that there was a second shooter (and there are plenty)are going off half cocked and that for now thr most complete story is coming from the mainstream.

I am saying that her account is not necessarily accurate whether traumatized or attention seeking i cant tell...and the conclusion that she heard gunshots while talking to him ignores what she actually reported which was that she heard shots before and after seeing him

I don't consider myself expert enough to read her state of mind I'm just talking about the leaps of belief people make.. every single time this happens

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posted February 16, 2018 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Catalina. .. Trauma was an area of study and specialized training for me in the past.
(You clarified some of your sentences. Thanks)

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posted February 16, 2018 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2018/02/16/parkland-mass-shooting-miles-howard?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180216

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posted February 17, 2018 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.facebook.com/segany/posts/10155637672283600

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posted February 18, 2018 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving post teasel

I am not a fortune teller but I think something is starting regarding gun control in your country.

Not yet the end, more the begining

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posted February 21, 2018 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the Capitol a gun free zone? Why?
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/gun-control-us-capitol-120310

Nice walk back, Randall.. from "these" to "school" shootings. 👍

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posted February 21, 2018 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many were in no gun zones, but all schools are no gun zones, and that should change.

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posted February 22, 2018 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DT's NRA stomp speech was a no gun zone. Congress is a no gun zone.

The prevalence of guns - or regulations - seems to have little bearing on the prevalence of gun violence according to these statistics
http://mises.org/wire/theres-no-such-thing-american-homicide-rate

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posted February 22, 2018 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Florida Kids are starting a powerful New Revolution against Military Assault Weapons.
What an amazing Town-Hall today!
Proud of the American Youth.

And respect for Marco Rubio who got verbally thrashed and bashed from 360 degrees of an angry crowd yet he had the guts to show up.

If he does not start the process of stringent background checks and banning bump-stocks next week, he will never win a Senate Seat again in his life.
He got the message.

The NRA is yet to get the message. Once Dems flip the House and Senate, a 10 billion dollar Lawsuit against NRA for complicity in deaths of Americans due to Assault Rifles can be taken up. The Youth must bankrupt the NRA and ensure they never fund another Heartless Creep to any elected office again.

The 2nd Amendment does not permit Mass Killing Machines. That message has to resonate.

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