posted November 18, 2018 09:42 PM            

The usual pathetically limp wristed and disorganized "attack", so typical of the GOP. I hope she has a better example.

posted November 26, 2018 01:24 PM            

http://www.newsweek.com/library-honoring-michelle-obama-vandalized-trump-graffiti-12 30149?

The examples that have been given are denied by those that cannot admit their side also results to violence when they've lost. Their heads are so encased in their "winning" they can't remember them tho they defended those incidents at the time.

posted November 26, 2018 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Republicans continue to be sore winners. And - you can call the target small but- violently

http://www.newsweek.com/library-honoring-michelle-obama-vandalized-trump-graffiti-12 30149?

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Yeah, that equates well with a Bernie The Commie supporter shooting up the republican baseball practice with a high powered rifle and critically wounding a republican member of congress.

posted November 26, 2018 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
I added a little to that. And as i said the target was small.. and unlike a truck, say, not insured. The glass on people's sidewalk and the disregard for others opinions and PROPERTY!, still violent. Add it to the list.

Meanwhile our govt is shooting teargas at mostly peaceful asylum seekers with the excuse that a few were disruptive. Flies with sledgehammers anyone?

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Say, didn't your little icon, The Marxist Messiah Obama also teargas "peaceful" illegal aliens at the southern border?

Well damn, Yes He Did, Yes He Did, Yes He Did. So, you bringing up this incident is just an exercise in gross hypocrisy because there was nary a peep out of you or other leftists then.

Violent Migrant Border Incident Exact Replay of When Obama Used Tear Gas at Border
NEIL MUNRO
26 Nov 2018

Five years almost to the day before President Donald Trump’s border officers blocked migrants with tear gas, authorities under President Barack Obama used identical tactics along the same stretch of border near the San Ysidro Port of Entry, according to 2013 press accounts.
The San Diego Union-Tribune reported November 25, 2o13:

The incident occurred about a quarter-mile west of the San Ysidro border crossing in the Tijuana River channel. No one was seriously injured, no shots were fired and no arrests were made, said Mary Beth Caston, a Border Patrol spokeswoman.

The group first approached a lone agent stationed about 1/8 of a mile north of the border. They ignored his commands to stop, so he fired pepper balls to try to stop them and protect himself, Caston said.

As the crowd kept advancing and throwing rocks and bottles, she said, more agents came to the scene and used other “intermediate use-of-force devices” to push back the group. The agents also contacted Mexican law enforcement.

In 2018, on November 25, border officers used tear gas to drive migrants back from a border fence they were seeking to push through.........

posted November 26, 2018 10:56 PM            

Violence wins revolutiins; the American Revolution for example. Violence is a sometimes necessary component of self defense. Violence encourages diplomacy. Violence is the default when diplomacy fails. Violence is politically effectual. So you can grasp your pearls and gasp in horror at a millennia of world history but thems the facts.

posted November 27, 2018 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
I see. All you have to do is mention OBAMA DID IT and that makes it ok. Even though the two scenarios differed.

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So, was it "ok" when The Marxist Messiah, Obama used tear gas and pepper spray on migrants attempting to rush the border and invade the US...all the way back to 2012?

If it wasn't "ok" why were you and other leftists silent then but pretend to be morally outraged when President Trump continued the very same practice?

Obama Used Tear Gas At Least 80 Times at Border
BOB PRICE
27 Nov 2018

Under the Obama Administration, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) law enforcement officials, including Border Patrol agents, utilized tear gas against migrants at or near the border at least 80 times between FY2012 and early FY2017.

CBP officials reported the use of tear gas and pepper spray to push back “assaultive” caravan migrants attempting to enter the U.S. illegally on Sunday. The agency began using these particular sprays during the Obama administration in 2010.

Breitbart News confirmed the CBP began using tear gas (2-chlorobenzylidene malononitrile – CS) in 2010, though the available usage data initiates in FY2012.

CBP Use of Tear Gas Report – FY2012 through FY2018 (Source – U.S. Customs and Border Protection)

The agency also reportedly began using pepper spray (Pava Capasaicin) at about the same time.

http://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/11/27/obama-used-tear-gas-at-least-80-times-at-border/

posted November 28, 2018 04:34 PM            

Jwhop nobody cares. Nobody remembers. Yes they're hypocrites. Hypocrisy is maybe the least of their sins and even still nobody cares.

posted November 29, 2018 03:14 PM            

I never said Obama was always right or too smart to criticize. I only said the constant demonizing by conservatives were thoughtless and self serving for those who like to think he was some kind of devil. Even offering a possible alternative perspective was considered adoration, tho it was not, and any suggestion that he might not be all powerful and always, cynically, evil was greeted with scoffs and insults.

Of course sometimes violence works. But dare i say it, the Natives were more decimated by the introduction of smallpox and syphilis than guns. Also by promises made and broken by the white man's govt...

European technological superiority, particularly in terms of guns, cannot serve as a blanket explanation for Euro-Americans’ ultimate triumph over Native North Americans. In early Quebec, Jamestown and Plymouth, colonists held an advantage in firearms only for a handful of years before Native people began building their own arsenals. The founders of later colonies, such as Pennsylvania or Georgia, arrived to find indigenous people already furnished with the best gun technology Europe could produce and keen to acquire more. Except under the rarest circumstances, no one state authority had the ability to choke Indians off from guns, powder and shot. There were just too many rival imperial powers and colonies in North America, their governments were weak, and the trade ran through a labyrinth of unofficial channels such as itinerant fur traders, Native middlemen and smugglers. Indians often wielded better weapons than Euro-Americans, including their armed forces
http://aeon.co/essays/how-did-the-introduction-of-guns-change-native-america

posted November 29, 2018 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Sometimes Violence does work. If the African Americans were heavily armed all the time in USA, 5000 of them would not have been lynched in Mississippi after the Civil War ended, nor would 10000 of their families suddenly become homeless and lost all they had during the Tulsa Genocide.
If the Native Americans had AR-15s or AK-47s, they could have theoretically scalped every Pilgrim or Conquistadore and and World History would have been seriously different.

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How many of the 1300 lynched whites (of 4700 total https://www.naacp.org/history-of-lynchings/) were 'heavily armed" do you figure?