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Topic: If You Believe In Global Warming, Watch This!
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12554 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2019 01:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina: How so, jwhop? Because you say so? Who are these private unnamed donors? Mssrs Rockefeller, Koch and Getty? Or Alias Smith and Jones?[b] ine (the OISM petition). This petition now appears to be signed by over 32,000 people with a BSc or higher qualification. The signatories agree with these statements: http://www.skepticalscience.com/OISM-Petition-Project.htm Science graduates.. of whom there are millions who did not sign. Where did the petition find signers?
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Nice try, but no cookies and milk for you. More than 9,000 scientists with PhDs signed that petition along with many with MD degrees, Masters of Science degrees some with Bachelor of Science degrees. All of the listed signers have formal educations in fields of specialization that suitably qualify them to evaluate the research data related to the petition statement. Many of the signers currently work in climatological, meteorological, atmospheric, environmental, geophysical, astronomical, and biological fields directly involved in the climate change controversy. The Petition Project classifies petition signers on the basis of their formal academic training, as summarized below. Scientists often pursue specialized fields of endeavor that are different from their formal education, but their underlying training can be applied to any scientific field in which they become interested. Outlined below are the numbers of Petition Project signatories, subdivided by educational specialties. These have been combined, as indicated, into seven categories. 1. Atmospheric, environmental, and Earth sciences includes 3,805 scientists trained in specialties directly related to the physical environment of the Earth and the past and current phenomena that affect that environment. 2. Computer and mathematical sciences includes 935 scientists trained in computer and mathematical methods. Since the human-caused global warming hypothesis rests entirely upon mathematical computer projections and not upon experimental observations, these sciences are especially important in evaluating this hypothesis. 3. Physics and aerospace sciences include 5,812 scientists trained in the fundamental physical and molecular properties of gases, liquids, and solids, which are essential to understanding the physical properties of the atmosphere and Earth. 4. Chemistry includes 4,822 scientists trained in the molecular interactions and behaviors of the substances of which the atmosphere and Earth are composed. 5. Biology and agriculture includes 2,965 scientists trained in the functional and environmental requirements of living things on the Earth. 6. Medicine includes 3,046 scientists trained in the functional and environmental requirements of human beings on the Earth. 7. Engineering and general science includes 10,102 scientists trained primarily in the many engineering specialties required to maintain modern civilization and the prosperity required for all human actions, including environmental programs. http://www.petitionproject.org/qualifications_of_signers.php Now, let's see your list of at least 31,000 American scientists who hold degrees in climate related fields who still cling to the Man Made Global Warming Religion.
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Catalina Knowflake Posts: 6562 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 19, 2019 04:39 PM
Why do you keep pretending that we are in a competition about who is right? I don't do Camps. I posted a video, no commentary, and you come back with an arsenal of supposed one upmanship.Sorry Belage, i don't know who started shooting nasty comments first. I do know that jwhop is committed to exposing the left as devils incarnate -and that includes anyone who looks into his claims without swallowing whole. They're as bad as each other as far as i can see and if anyone thinks "private interested citizens" don't include oil barons, well... I think that's naive. As to your 30k science students, masters and phds, jwhop, how do they compare to these numbers of actual climate scientists who collaborated, unpaid, on the reports you consider so tainted? ... case, there are 86 lead authors from 39 countries, of which 39% are female. These researchers, who are unpaid, have reviewed the available scientific literature on the feasibility, impacts and costs of staying under 1.5C. They have then put together draft versions of their report, after having reviewed some 6,000 references all told. These draft reports were sent out to other experts and governments for review. In total, this report has had over 40,000 review comments.
Your petition, Im afraid, doesn't feel us anything about how or why the signers came to agree with the petitions points, just that they did. 9000 qualified as climatologists. What a pity that numbers alone are not sufficient to judge quality, in science, economy, or life itself.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12554 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2019 07:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina: Why do you keep pretending that we are in a competition about who is right? I don't do Camps. I posted a video, no commentary, and you come back with an arsenal of supposed one upmanship.Sorry Belage, i don't know who started shooting nasty comments first. I do know that jwhop is committed to exposing the left as devils incarnate -and that includes anyone who looks into his claims without swallowing whole. They're as bad as each other as far as i can see and if anyone thinks "private interested citizens" don't include oil barons, well... I think that's naive. As to your 30k science students, masters and phds, jwhop, how do they compare to these numbers of actual climate scientists who collaborated, unpaid, on the reports you consider so tainted? [b]... case, there are 86 lead authors from 39 countries, of which 39% are female. These researchers, who are unpaid, have reviewed the available scientific literature on the feasibility, impacts and costs of staying under 1.5C. They have then put together draft versions of their report, after having reviewed some 6,000 references all told. These draft reports were sent out to other experts and governments for review. In total, this report has had over 40,000 review comments.
Your petition, Im afraid, doesn't feel us anything about how or why the signers came to agree with the petitions points, just that they did. 9000 qualified as climatologists. What a pity that numbers alone are not sufficient to judge quality, in science, economy, or life itself. [/B]
Just as I thought. You don't have a list of 31,000 American scientists who claim Man Made Global Warming is real. Neither did another poster who claimed Earth would be burned to a cinder. Nor, do you have 9000 PhDs who work in climate related disciplines to champion your Religion. As for the leftist lunatic fringe, they're in the process of destroying themselves. They need no help from me. And don't try to give me that crap that the lunatic fringe...so called researchers are not paid. Most of them are on the public dole..funded by universities...which are funded by taxpayers. They have an agenda and it's not good science. They're hoaxers and con artists. I notice you didn't link any sources for your so called "expert" reports...or the alleged 40000 review comments. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2696 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2019 09:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina:
Sorry Belage, i don't know who started shooting nasty comments first. I do know that jwhop is committed to exposing the left as devils incarnate -and that includes anyone who looks into his claims without swallowing whole.
Well, Jwhop is on whole nother level. I used to flatly dismiss him because he is just so... outrageous, lol. But when I took the time to sift through his creative insults and monikers, I actually often found important and valid information. His delivery is a turn off, but I don't think he cares. IP: Logged |
ballerina Moderator Posts: 1166 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted January 20, 2019 01:41 PM
Did you know..That there is a red algae accelerating glacier melt in the Arctic? It looks like the snow is bleeding... ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 11236 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2019 07:57 PM
Our negative 9 degrees tonight doesn't feel very &%$#@ warm ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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ballerina Moderator Posts: 1166 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted January 20, 2019 08:14 PM
juniperb It's 10 degrees right now where I am, with a feels like, negative 9... and they're saying it will be like this all week! ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 107824 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2019 11:06 PM
Global warming strikes again!IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12554 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2019 11:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Global warming strikes again!
Yes, it's so cold in my house I had to open the refrigerator to warm the house up! IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12554 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2019 11:30 PM
Guess I'm luckier than most, with temps in the low 50s today.But, where's Algore with his Global Warming..or is this it? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12554 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 04, 2019 11:52 PM
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shura Knowflake Posts: 1419 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 05, 2019 09:08 AM
"That there is a red algae accelerating glacier melt"wow I wonder how that got there. 60 yesterday and today in my little corner of communist New England IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 107824 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 05, 2019 10:34 AM
The New Green Movement will cost $7 trillion. Insane.IP: Logged |
ballerina Moderator Posts: 1166 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted February 05, 2019 11:59 AM
We were given a pristine Earth.. which provided for all our needs, all we had to do was live in Harmony and balance with the Universal Laws that are Immutable!We have raped, plundered, and poisoned Our Mother Earth and polluted Father Sky... We have a lot of work to do, to bring balance... And Heal this World with Love for all.. Shura, The red algae, maybe Aliens put it there to give us a visual of what we are doing to our planet!? Aliens, the word makes me giggle! ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12554 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2019 07:05 PM
Booker for New Green DealIP: Logged |
ballerina Moderator Posts: 1166 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 02, 2019 08:40 PM
When you eat a lot of vegetables, you fart!Maybe he's worried he's Emitting too much gas, and is looking for balance *hearty laugher* ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged |
ballerina Moderator Posts: 1166 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 02, 2019 08:59 PM
I eat everything and would not be rude, cuz I was, Someone makes a meal enjoy, nothing wrong with that..everything in moderation..only hunt for food, not sport!------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged |
ballerina Moderator Posts: 1166 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 02, 2019 08:59 PM
I eat everything and would not be rude, cuz I was, Someone makes a meal enjoy, nothing wrong with that..everything in moderation..only hunt for food, not sport!------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged | |