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Catalina
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posted January 28, 2019 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We appear to be continuing our meddling...

Maduro denounces election ultimatum, says Guaido violating constitution: CNN Turk interview

27 Jan 2019

Reuters

By Ali Kucukgocmen

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Venezuela's embattled President Nicolas Maduro rejected an international ultimatum to call elections within eight days and said opposition leader Juan Guaido had violated the country's constitution by declaring himself leader.

Maduro, in an interview with CNN Turk aired on Sunday, also said he was open to dialogue and that meeting U.S. President Donald Trump was improbable but not impossible. The broadcaster dubbed the interview from Spanish into Turkish.

Washington, which has recognized Guaido as leader, had on Saturday urged the world to "pick a side" on Venezuela and financially disconnect from Maduro's government.

Venezuela has sunk into turmoil under Maduro with food shortages and protests amid an economic and political crisis that has sparked mass emigration and inflation that is seen rising to 10 million percent this year.

Britain, Germany, France and Spain all said they would recognize Guaido if Maduro failed to call fresh elections within eight days, an ultimatum Russia said was "absurd" and the Venezuelan foreign minister called "childlike."

Washington, Canada most Latin American nations and many European states have labeled Maduro's second-term election win last May fraudulent.

Maduro retains the loyalty of the armed forces, though Venezuela's top military envoy to the United States on Saturday defected to Guaido.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan had voiced his support for Maduro in a phone call on Thursday.

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Catalina
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posted January 29, 2019 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone wonder why we're always aiding coups in Venezuela?

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posted January 29, 2019 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Anyone wonder why we're always aiding coups in Venezuela?

Well, we're really surprised to find you aligning with Communists..NOT.

Perhaps that's because you align with Marxist Communist, Socialist, Progressives here.

Venezuela is the poster perfect image of Socialism. It's beyond me why any rational American would want to go down the road with Socialism but the demorat party is chock full of screeching, howling, shrieking, irrational leftist lunatics who think they're going to get something from a socialist government. Right, just like the people of Venezuela are picking through dumpsters to feed themselves, buying medicine and toilet paper on the black market or fleeing across the Venezuelan border to escape Socialism.

We're not going down that road.

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Catalina
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posted January 29, 2019 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is We, -and what does another country's govt have to do with ours? Are we going to turn into bloodthirsty Arabs because the Sauds conduct themselves that way?

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jwhop
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posted January 30, 2019 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, siding with another murderous Socialist dictator is the real "IN" thing for leftists.

Just ask Bernie The Commie or his protégé, the little Socialist airhead, Ocasio-Cortez.

Leave our murderous Socialist dictators alone is the war cry of leftist lunatics.

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Catalina
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posted January 30, 2019 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps you could answer my question and lay off the stump speech for a few minutes? Im not siding with anyone but there's no real difference between playing puppet in Latin Anerica or in the ME. Keeping our noses out and NOT siding with anyone.. instead of deciding who is allowed to run their own country and who is not.. didn't your orange god say the latter was unamerican? And the cause of much self imposed destruction? One of the things he has said that actually made sense, tho obviously another whopper.

It also creates refugees and the very crisis he says needs fixing.

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posted January 30, 2019 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The people of Venezuela do not want your murderous little Socialist dictator, Mad-uro....emphasis on MAD!

But, MAD-uro is a big hit with American leftist loony tunes...just like all the other murderous Socialist dictators American loony tunes leftists have supported.

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Catalina
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posted January 30, 2019 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm.. guess youre not interested in talking about anything outside the script then.

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jwhop
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posted January 30, 2019 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Hmmm.. guess youre not interested in talking about anything outside the script then.

Whose script do you think I'm talking from?

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Catalina
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posted February 01, 2019 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More irrelevance.

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jwhop
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posted February 01, 2019 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You said:
"Hmmm.. guess youre not interested in talking about anything outside the script then."

I answered:
"Whose script do you think I'm talking from?"

Your answer:
"More irrelevance."

Which is no answer to the question I asked, at all and is therefore irrelevant.

So, let me ask again:
"Whose script do you think I'm talking from?"

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Catalina
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posted February 01, 2019 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dearie you have totally skirted round my question(s) by accusing me of "aligning with Maduro -and socialists".. and asked me one that had no bearing on the topic. The script is generic by now and i have no need to continue talking about irrelevant details, listening to your preemptive posturing, or indeed engaging in a battle that poses as a conversation. So unless you want to talk rather than play verbal fisticuffs, that's fine, have a nice day

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posted February 08, 2019 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What could be the difference? The wonderful democracy that is Saudi Arabia?

Washington (AFP) - Al-Jubeir reiterated Friday that the prince was not involved in the murder and blaming him would be crossing a "red line."

"For anyone to think that they can dictate what we should do, what our leadership should do, is preposterous," al-Jubeir told reporters."Our leadership is a red line."

Trump has publicly said that he is not concerned whether Prince Mohammed was involved, saying the Saudi alliance benefits Washington due to the kingdom's major purchases of weapons and its hostility to regional rival Iran.

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posted February 08, 2019 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Maduro Tweets About Salsa While Venezuelans Starve Waiting for U.S. Aid on Border
FRANCES MARTEL
8 Feb 2019

Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro congratulated the heads of a government program known as “Salsa Heart” on Twitter Friday, attempting to move the spotlight away from his refusal to step down following his constitutional replacement by President Juan Guaidó and towards a tropical dance initiative meant to keep youth from protesting against socialism.....
http://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2019/02/08/maduro-tweets-about-salsa-while-venezuelans-starve-waiting-for-u-s-aid-on-border/

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posted February 08, 2019 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

U.S. Admiral: Maduro Distrusts Venezuelans So Much He Uses only Cuban Bodyguards
JOHN HAYWARD
8 Feb 2019

Admiral Craig Faller of the U.S. Southern Command told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday that Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro no longer trusts his own people, so he has imported a squad of Cuban bodyguards for protection.

“I think it’s a good sense of where the loyalty of the Venezuelan people are, that his immediate security force is made up of Cubans,” Adm. Faller said....
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/02/08/u-s-admiral-maduro-distrusts-venezuelans-so-much-he-uses-only-cuban-bodyguards/

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posted February 08, 2019 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leftist lunatics backing a real winner in MAD-uro.

Venezuelan on Border: My Friend Died Waiting for Maduro to Allow U.S. Aid to Enter
BEN KEW
7 Feb 2019

A Venezuelan woman awaiting humanitarian aid from the U.S. told a national outlet Thursday that she witnessed a friend die while waiting for dictator Nicolás Maduro to allow the aid to enter the country.

“Yesterday a friend died because he was paralyzed and had no medication to deal with it,” Dajelys López, an engineer carrying her newborn baby, told news service NTN24 from the border with Cúcuta, Colombia.

This week, the first of three convoys provided by the United States and other regional contributors arrived in Cúcuta ready to distribute aid to starved Venezuelans. The Venezuelan military, still controlled by Maduro, blocked the aid’s passage into the country, meaning only Venezuelans who had made it into Colombia could access it....
http://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2019/02/07/venezuelan-died-waiting-us-aid-enter/

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posted February 08, 2019 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"For anyone to think that they can dictate what we should do, what our leadership should do, is preposterous," al-Jubeir told reporters."Our leadership is a red line."

The difference is that the Sauds are good customers and Maduro is not.

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posted February 08, 2019 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're desperate to prove your moral superiority or to save the world or whatever, maybe look to Detroit. Or Chicago. St Louis. Plenty of hellholes right here in your own backyard. No need to tug o war over South America.

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posted February 10, 2019 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
If you're desperate to prove your moral superiority or to save the world or whatever, maybe look to Detroit. Or Chicago. St Louis. Plenty of hellholes right here in your own backyard. No need to tug o war over South America.

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Catalina
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posted February 10, 2019 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly. No administration has refused to keep this meddling going.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela-the-u-s-s-68th-regime-change-disaster/5668085?

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posted February 10, 2019 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean, if the US is that hungry for another regime change, maybe consider France? Macron is brutal. Surely something can be done about that monster and his jackbooted Imperial Guards.

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Catalina
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posted March 11, 2019 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the beat goes on...
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/americas/venezuela-aid-fire-video.html?

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posted March 11, 2019 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
And the beat goes on...
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/americas/venezuela-aid-fire-video.html?

Yes, yes we know. MAD-uro is just the typical little murderous Socialist dictator...and worthy of support by leftist lunatics.

Nothing to see in Venezuela. Now, move along.

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Catalina
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posted March 12, 2019 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.truthdig.com/articles/we-are-being-lied-into-war-again/?

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jwhop
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posted March 12, 2019 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More leftists shilling for the murderous Socialist dictator, MAD-uro.

Do you leftists think your little staged event is going to fool anyone?

Here's real pictures of Venezuelans digging through garbage trying to find something to eat.

And now, you leftist supporters of your little murderous Socialist dictator MAD-uro, can tell us why the average citizen of Venezuela has lost more than 20 pounds and why more than 3 million Venezuelans have fled the Socialist Worker's Paradise.

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