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Randall
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posted March 18, 2019 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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pire
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posted March 20, 2019 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
You may add Utrecht to your list, Jwhop. Will be interesting to compare media footage and viewer reaction of this Muslim attack vs the NZ white supremacist attack.

IQ makes an excellent point. Don't grasp your pearls and pretend Whites are above this. When pressed, Whites will engage in terrorist attacks just fine thanks. I know you're old enough to remember the IRA. When Muslim terrorist attacks became a near weekly occurance, the leftist argument was "But they're being invaded and bombed, you stationed you soldiers in their holy land, you're disrespecting their culture, theyre just fighting back etc" Sure. It's human nature to fight back under those circumstances. Show me a colonized people who didn't fight back. Applying that rule, I agree with IQ that White, and possibly even Christian, led attacks will increase. Muslim attacks as well. Many cells have lost financial backing and tactical leadership, but like the many headed Hydra, something will replace ISIS. (Wave to Erdogan, kids) If not, they'll make do. Doesn't take much money to knife someone on a train, after all. And not necessarily because there is something inherently wrong with Islam or Arabs or Whites or Christians but because *forced multiculturalism and forced migration will inevitably lead to ethnic and religious conflict.* Let's stop calling it terrorism. "Terrorism" leaves us with no identifiable motive or goal beyond useless, ambiguous "hate" or "evil people" or "He's insane." No. It's garden variety ethnic conflict that killed the praying NZ Muslims and the Dutch riding their tram to work. It's as old as the day is long and it's going to get much worse from all sides until both the Left and Right elite turn off the pressure cooker. Chance that will happen?


Calling for ethnic cleansing ?

Or justifying it ?

Your last point about the failling left and right elite doesn't disguise what you stabd for.

That is why we can REALLY not ever get along. And I am glad you feel the same

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shura
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posted March 20, 2019 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nadja, I believe it does matter, yes. An ideal world full of ideal people is perhaps worth dreaming of, but in the morning we must deal with the reality before us.

Most Americans will know the Utoya massacre by the name of its perpetrator, Anders Breivik. He was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and deemed criminally insane. I don't know how many are willing to let it go at that though.

pire, if you are advocating for an ethnic cleansing again, do please rethink that position.

Today a Senegalese migrant hijacked a bus in Milan carrying 51 Italian schoolchildren. To prevent them from alerting police, he confiscated their phones. His intent was to park the bus in front of an airport and set it on fire, killing the children and himself. By the grace of God, one boy was able to hide his phone and call his parents. Why did this happen? We can chalk it up to hate, say something about Islamist violence, gee isn't the world a crazy place blah blah and walk on to the next atrocity, or we can start asking ourselves the hard questions.

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Catalina
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posted March 21, 2019 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which questions are those, shura?

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shura
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posted March 21, 2019 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well what did I just say, cat?

Tho tbh I would be tickled pink if any of you asked damn near anything beyond "oh golly gee what a hateful person tsk tsk kumbaya"

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Catalina
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posted March 22, 2019 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You suggested we ask ourselves the hard questions. What questions? You complain that no one is bothering to ask them but neither are you. So what questions do you think should be asked?

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shura
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posted March 22, 2019 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat, good lord, it's right there. why. did. this. happen

Are you content with "meh. hate."? The media machine tells me NZ = guns/nazis are bad, Italy = no biggie, just revenge. Are you good with that? Satisfied? Thank you next, right?

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