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Topic: In memory of the victims of a white supremacist terrorist, in Christchurch, NZ
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 15, 2019 08:43 PM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 15, 2019 08:44 PM
http://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/new-zealand-christchurch-shooting-intl/index.html IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 108554 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 15, 2019 08:49 PM
That nut job should get the death penalty if New Zealand has one.IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 11212 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted March 15, 2019 10:12 PM
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12617 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2019 12:38 PM
Leftist loons are trying to spin the propaganda that this attacker is a supporter of President Trump. You know, Trump whispered in his ear...go attack a Muslim Mosque in New Zealand.But, that's a lie. Leftists are deplorable liars. He really is an admirer of the Chinese Communist government. Christchurch Killer: Nation with Closest ‘Values to My Own Is the People’s Republic of China’ BEN KEW 15 Mar 2019 The man allegedly responsible for the mass shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, wrote in his manifesto that the modern political system he most admired was that of communist China..... http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/03/15/christchurch-manifesto-values-china/ IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2019 05:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop:
Delete this, and take it to another thread. This is for the victims, that you obviously don't care about. You are just awful. We get it: GU is your playground. You get to insult people whenever you care to - but take it somewhere else. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12617 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2019 06:24 PM
Mind your own business.You could show some outrage over 120 Christians murdered by terrorist pals of the loony tunes leftists.
Nigerian Muslim Militants Kill 120 Christians in Three Weeks IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 108554 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2019 07:26 PM
She says she doesn't believe in God and dislikes Christians, but the leaders on the left tell her to care about Muslims. I wonder how she would feel if a group of white supremacists were murdered? She would be cheering. All mass murderers should be condemned, regardless of the status of the victims.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12617 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2019 10:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: She says she doesn't believe in God and dislikes Christians, but the leaders on the left tell her to care about Muslims. I wonder how she would feel if a group of white supremacists were murdered? She would be cheering. All mass murderers should be condemned, regardless of the status of the victims.
Yes!
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2019 05:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: She says she doesn't believe in God and dislikes Christians, but the leaders on the left tell her to care about Muslims. I wonder how she would feel if a group of white supremacists were murdered? She would be cheering. All mass murderers should be condemned, regardless of the status of the victims.
I dislike certain hypocritical Christians, and thanks for ruining this thread. I would feel the same way if another church had been shot up. White supremacists? I wouldn't mourn them, but are you associating Christians with White supremacy? For some reason, I thought better of you. Rather than telling jwhop to move this to another thread, you just made it worse. Speaking of hypocritical Christians: I can't believe that I thought better of you. I know better than that. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2019 05:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2019 05:28 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/16/world/asia/new-zealand-shooting.html IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2019 05:29 PM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2019 05:31 PM
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213358 Information on some of the victims. The first one mentioned was three years old. These are the faces of innocent people who were gunned down by someone who was radicalized by the internet. By white supremacists. Would anyone seriously mourn the shooter? Would you mourn any white supremacist? Why? I ask because of this: quote: Originally posted by Randall: I wonder how she would feel if a group of white supremacists were murdered? She would be cheering. All mass murderers should be condemned, regardless of the status of the victims.
Christians aren't White supremacists, as far as I know. Some have shown themselves to be, as they come out in support of trump, or just like certain members of my extended family that I don't associate with. I no longer believe in God, especially the hateful one that is prominent in republican beliefs. But I don't recall praising the shooter who tried to take out politicians at a baseball game. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 6573 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 17, 2019 09:05 PM
The dead churchgoers in Charlotte were Christians too.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12617 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2019 09:37 PM
Media Silence Surrounds Muslim Massacre of Christians THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D. 17 Mar 2019 Political leaders and public figures were falling over themselves this weekend to condemn the mosque attacks in New Zealand, while dozens of Christians were slaughtered by Muslims in Nigeria to the sound of crickets........... http://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/03/17/media-silence-surrounds-muslim-massacre-of-christians/ IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11857 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2019 11:08 PM
http://www.teenvogue.com/story/white-male-terrorists-are-an-issue-we-should-discuss?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_brand=tv&mbid=social_facebook&utm_social-type=owned&fb clid=IwAR1ZpzQsl1t0ea_FJ091ebJ4EP3bK9xfQFFMMNlvZ0bmjYFsn3WG3_WI-vkIP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12617 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2019 11:44 PM
You want to have a discussion about Muslim male terrorists?United States February 26, 1993 World Trade Center bombing, in New York City. 6 dead, 1,042 injured. United States September 11, 2001. A series of four coordinated terrorist attacks by al-Qaeda involving the hijacking and crashing of passenger jet airliners that killed 2,996 people, injured over 6,000 others. Fort Hood, Texas, November 5, 2009. Major Nidal Malik Hasan shot up a military base in Fort Hood and murdered 14 people. Hasan was in contact with al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack and shouted "Allahu Akbar!" as he fired upon the soldiers on the Fort Hood base. United States April 15, 2013. Boston Marathon bombing – Two brothers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnev, planted two bombs near the finish line of the Boston Marathon. 3 dead, 183 injured United States October 23. 2014. Zale H. Thomson, also known as Zaim Farouq Abdul-Malik, attacked four New York policemen in the subway with a hatchet, severely injuring one in the back of the head and injuring another policeman in the arm before being shot to death by the remaining officers, who also shot a civilian. 5 injured. United States May 3, 2015. Two gunmen attacked the Curtis Culwell Center during a 'Draw Muhammad' cartoon art exhibit in Garland, Texas. 1 injured United States December 2, 2015. In the 2015 San Bernardino attack, married couple Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik shot and killed 14 people and injured 22 others in a killing spree that the FBI was investigating as "act of terrorism". United States June 12, 2016. 49 people were killed and 53 injured in a mass shooting at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida. The shooter, Omar Mateen, pledged allegiance to ISIL by specifically calling police and journalists several times during the incident. United States November 28, 2016. Ohio State University attack, 11 people were hospitalized for injuries after a car ramming attack and mass stabbing occurred at Ohio State University. The perpetrator, Abdul Razak Ali Artan, was a Muslim Somali refugee and legal permanent resident of the United States. United States October 31, 2017 Lower Manhattan attack - A man drove a pickup truck into cyclists and runners along about 1 mile (2 km) of a bicycle path in Lower Manhattan, New York City. After he left the vehicle, the driver was wielding two guns (later found to be a paintball gun and a pellet gun); he was shot in the abdomen by police and arrested. An ISIS flag and a document that read either "It will endure." or "Islamic State will endure forever." in Arabic were found in the truck. 8 dead, 12 injured. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5756 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2019 07:38 AM
All Mass Murders should be condemned whether in USA, Africa or France or Syria or NZ or Pakistan or India.What I notice from those programmed to hate Islam like JWHop is a reluctance to express even the slightest empathy towards even Muslim Children gunned down by a White Supremacist, and instead begin WhatAboutery for innocent Christians gunned down by Islamist Terrorists. As if Muslims do not condemn the Christian victims. Muslim Governments are the only ones to quickly try and hang terrorists or finish them off. Nigerian govt is slaughtering Boko Haram Terrorists whenver they get a chance. But I do not see too many Klansmen shot dead in the Bible Belt. Nobody whitewashes an Islamist Terrorist by saying "He was Mentally Ill" etc. Muslim soldiers have died by the ton fighting off ISIL. But White Supremacists accumulate weapons by the million in USA. One Coast Guard Agent could have easily taken out 10000 Americans last month had FBI not caught him. I honestly feel just like Radical Islamist Terrorists should have no human rights until they surrender, White Supremacists/Klansmen etc should have no such rights either. Both need to be arrested and incarcerated without prejudice. There is no difference between the two except in their religious labeling. And what we are seeing is just the beginning of White Supremacist Terror. Radical Islamist Terror is clearly on the wane in Western Countries the past 12-18 months but in the same time, we have seen White Supremacists kill innocent Christians, Jews, Sikhs and Muslims in Churches, Synagogues, Gurudwaras and now a Mosque. Whats next, Hindu Temples? Temples of Learning? NASA? Freemason Lodges? Let me repeat, White Supremacists have 100 times more weapons and bullets than Radical Islamists. That Terror Group is the most Clear and Present Danger Globally, since ISIL has been all but wiped out. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5756 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2019 07:52 AM
@Teasel Though there is such vehement wickedness from White Supremacist Terrorists against every human being, the healing given by the vast majority of Western Nations is far more powerful. It is something other cultures can and must learn from.1. The PM of New Zealand Jacinda wore an Islamic Veil in Solidarity, while hugging survivors. 2. Christian Men stood outside Mosques in Europe to prevent copycat attacks. 3. A New Zealand Soccer Player did an Islamic Prostration after scoring a goal. 4. Unlimited flowers sent to the families of the victims. 5. Immediate change in gun laws to prevent easy access to automatic assault rifles. 6. Jews expressed 100% solidarity during the Sabbath the ext day. 7. The National Logo of New Zealand was re-drawn with images of Muslims standing for Prayer. Extremely powerful Symbolism here to express solidarity and Empathy. 8. Will Connolly smashed an Egg on the head of the only politician to publicly support the terrorist attack. Immature, but judging by the billion online likes and retweets, it did its bit.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12617 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2019 08:33 AM
IQ, you're so full of crap it's turned your blue eyes brown.Christians are slaughtered and Muslim sympathizers yawn. Muslims...in another country, are killed and everyone is supposed to instantly lose their minds and go bat shiiite insane. Americans, in America are killed by Muslims..in America and Muslim sympathizers get their panties in a bunch if anyone brings the subject up. Muslims claim...and their sympathizers claim that Islam is the religion of peace. That's a claim that's disproved every single day somewhere in the world as practitioners of the so called religion of peace slaughter the innocent. As for your absolute bullshiite about so called white supremacists/KKK, let me remind you...and the rest of the loony tunes leftists that these people were/are demorats, all the way back to the early 20th century. Facts are such pesky little things. They just won't go away no matter how much leftist loons screech, howl, whine and snivel whenever facts are stated. Leftism, the religion of emotion! I know it will give all leftists a warm cozy glow to learn that David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan has endorsed a Jew Hating, Israel hating anti-Semite Muslim, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, calling her "the most important member of Congress". David Duke ENDORSES Democrat Ilhan Omar, Calls Her ‘Most Important Member Of Congress’ Lawrence Richard - March 8, 2019 http://www.governorpalin.org/2019/03/08/david-duke-endorses-democrat-ilhan-omar-calls-important-member-congress/
Guess Who Is Anti-Semite Ilhan Omar's New Best Buddy? Hank Berrien February 11, 2019
Guess who’s the new best buddy of anti-Semitic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar? Big surprise: famed anti-Semite David Duke. http://www.dailywire.com/news/43324/guess-who-anti-semite-ilhan-omars-new-best-buddy-hank-berrien
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shura Knowflake Posts: 1428 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 18, 2019 11:16 AM
You may add Utrecht to your list, Jwhop. Will be interesting to compare media footage and viewer reaction of this Muslim attack vs the NZ white supremacist attack. IQ makes an excellent point. Don't grasp your pearls and pretend Whites are above this. When pressed, Whites will engage in terrorist attacks just fine thanks. I know you're old enough to remember the IRA. When Muslim terrorist attacks became a near weekly occurance, the leftist argument was "But they're being invaded and bombed, you stationed you soldiers in their holy land, you're disrespecting their culture, theyre just fighting back etc" Sure. It's human nature to fight back under those circumstances. Show me a colonized people who didn't fight back. Applying that rule, I agree with IQ that White, and possibly even Christian, led attacks will increase. Muslim attacks as well. Many cells have lost financial backing and tactical leadership, but like the many headed Hydra, something will replace ISIS. (Wave to Erdogan, kids) If not, they'll make do. Doesn't take much money to knife someone on a train, after all. And not necessarily because there is something inherently wrong with Islam or Arabs or Whites or Christians but because *forced multiculturalism and forced migration will inevitably lead to ethnic and religious conflict.* Let's stop calling it terrorism. "Terrorism" leaves us with no identifiable motive or goal beyond useless, ambiguous "hate" or "evil people" or "He's insane." No. It's garden variety ethnic conflict that killed the praying NZ Muslims and the Dutch riding their tram to work. It's as old as the day is long and it's going to get much worse from all sides until both the Left and Right elite turn off the pressure cooker. Chance that will happen? IP: Logged |
Nadja Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Finland Registered: Nov 2018
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posted March 18, 2019 04:50 PM
Since we are dragging up all sorts of terrorist killings... Why not mention the Utøya massacre in Norway as well. A right wing extremist (white supremacist/anti-immigration/anti-islam) first bombs the office of the Norwegian PM in central Oslo, killing 8 people. Then he travels to the Utøya island where the social-democratic Labour Party's youth group are holding a summer camp. There he kills 63 people and injures 110, mostly children and young adults. He didn't turn his gun on a mosque, but on left-wing youth. But does it make any sort of difference in the end? He killed people because he hated them... does it matter if they were left-wing, muslim, christian or any other group of people in this world?In this world there are both victims and perpetrators of hate crime who are muslim, christian, left-wing, right-wing... and so on. Hate is universal and equally damaging everywhere. Hate is hate. No matter who does the hating and who is the hated party. Hate is born from predjudice and oppression. And hate breeds hate too. A victim can easily become a perpetrator in turn. All we can do is try to renounce our prejudices and see people as people and not as representations of their culture, ethnicity, religion, sexuality... IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 12617 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2019 05:59 PM
"But does it make any sort of difference in the end? He killed people because he hated them... does it matter if they were left-wing, muslim, christian or any other group of people in this world?"No, it makes absolutely no difference to me who killed, how they justify their attacks or who was killed. If attackers survive their attacks, they should be speedily executed. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 11248 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2019 06:00 PM
Nadjia, welcome to G. U. !!------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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