posted August 01, 2019 05:11 PM            

I think one thing we could all agree on is that we would like to be able to go to church, fesitval, sporting events, without fear of a mass shooting. I don't like having to think "hmm I wonder if this is safe?" before going to an event. It doesn't feel good.

Gun restrictions are sad because guns are fun and a good way to defend yourself. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like having a gun prevents gun violence, having guns around just causes more people to get shot.

I'd rather live in a society with some honor where at least people have to face you for a minute to try and kill you. Some people have combat training and can take down somebody with a knife, but the changes of taking down someone with an autoamtic assault rifle are pretty low.

posted August 01, 2019 05:31 PM            

Economy is still doing well. My livelihood is based on private medical insurance. I guess I will vote libtard anyway cause its the right thing to do? But probably will be hamstringing my entire business. Oh well?

posted August 01, 2019 07:38 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Randall:
No, somehow I think you will still vote for one of those who promises to eliminate private health insurance, because you personally hate President Trump more than you want to maintain your livelihood.

---

posted August 01, 2019 09:22 PM            

I live in california so my vote is basically pointless, but I probably will vote for a liberal this time, until my entire job is totally micromanaged by the state, then I'll turn right wing lol.

posted August 02, 2019 12:07 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Randall:
America can't be compared to any other nation on earth. Gun free zones are just asking for a mass shooting.

---

Study: 89% of 21st Century Mass Shootings Occurred in Gun-Free Zones
AWR Hawkins
31 Jul 2019

posted August 02, 2019 10:51 AM            

Function:
To insure the alleged 29 million uninsured in America...so said democrats and Barack Hussein Obama.

Now, the facts.

How many people are uninsured in America?

...some 27.5 million Americans under age 65 were uninsured in 2016, about 10 percent of that population, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. The most common reason: the cost was too high.

So, ObamaCare failed it's primary function. There were roughly the same number of uninsured Americans BEFORE AND AFTER OBAMACARE WAS PASSED.

Now, the lies told to Americans by democrats to get ObamaCare passed.

LIE: IF YOU LIKE YOUR DOCTOR, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR

LIE: IF YOU LIKE YOUR INSURANCE PLAN, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR INSURANCE PLAN

LIE: OBAMACARE WILL SAVE THE AVERAGE FAMILY $2500 PER YEAR

And, perhaps the biggest lie of all:

Conflating health insurance with healthcare.

posted August 02, 2019 04:02 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Randall:
Well-said. I concur.

---

posted August 02, 2019 04:06 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
There's crazy people everywhere, when you restrict guns theres way less mass shootings.

I think one thing we could all agree on is that we would like to be able to go to church, fesitval, sporting events, without fear of a mass shooting. I don't like having to think "hmm I wonder if this is safe?" before going to an event. It doesn't feel good.

Gun restrictions are sad because guns are fun and a good way to defend yourself. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like having a gun prevents gun violence, having guns around just causes more people to get shot.

I'd rather live in a society with some honor where at least people have to face you for a minute to try and kill you. Some people have combat training and can take down somebody with a knife, but the changes of taking down someone with an autoamtic assault rifle are pretty low.

It just seems we should be in a post-gun world at this point, who are we protecting ourselves from anyway? Eachother more or less.

---

restricting guns would be crazy and wouldn't stop violence

i can go into pretty much any store and buy everything needed to make explosives and poison gas, so can everyone else, there's not even age limits or anything necessary to pick that kind of **** up

people are really ******* good at killing each other, been doing it for centuries, there's always a way

taking away guns destroys the real purpose of the 2nd amendment which was about people checking their governments and giving some weight to the balance of power onto the side of the masses instead of leaving people at the mercy of those in power who will have even better weapons to use against them

it's short sighted to take away guns and doesn't at all stop violence

posted August 02, 2019 06:52 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Its way more work to build a bomb and execute that properly than it is to just buy an assault rifle and spray into a crowd.

People are lazy lol

---

it's really not that much work to build a simple explosive or even something more simple like making napalm and mixing that with tar and tossing that into a crowd completely not hard, would definitely **** people up (probably scare more people too because man are people not used to **** like that) and it'd take hardly any time

you can make poison gas out of household cleaning supplies, takes no time, and in the right setting it wouldn't be hard to kill people with that either

an assault rifle just isn't creative is all, but without it people will be, because when someone wants to do that **** they're going to find a way even if it's driving a truck into a crowd or ******* acid attacks

also it's so easy to get illegal **** let's be real, something being illegal doesn't mean it's unavailable

if anything it's more easy to get **** illegally because there's no checks you just need the money (which is what you need to get things legally too)

and the illegal guns you can get? so much better than the legal

flamethrowers and grenades etc should be legal, i can't see why not your average person is far less likely to use them than your average government but we allow small groups of people with their own agendas to use all kinds of weaponry against us and other people while simultaneously letting them tell us what we can have

you can be jailed, restrained etc for completely unjust laws being held against you by cops with access to weapons you can't have and that's fine with you because at least your neighbor with less power over you can't have a grenade?

nevermind that your average person isn't a mass murderer on any level

the point in legalizing weapons of equal value to what those in power have is about the balance of power

if someone has power over you and they tell you that you can choose a gun or a knife to defend yourself against them, and you know they have a gun are you going to grab the knife?

people have to be accountable at a certain point for keeping their government free of corruption and sometimes the cost of that is violence, when you turn a blind eye to that you're essentially just helping create larger harder to fix problems in the future for the masses

you have to have absolute trust in order to feel comfortable with other people having more power over you than you're allowed over yourself, and there's no reason to trust a corrupt system like that

the idea of **** like recreational nukes is symbolic of what i'm saying, if you're comfortable with them existing and being used at all then you should be comfortable with anyone having them not just people who ultimately only care about maintaining the power they have

have you ever looked at some of the weapons that are outlawed for wars? a good deal of them were used in guerilla warfare you know why? because they're more easily available for people who are weak without access to larger equally (or more) devastating weapons

posted August 02, 2019 06:53 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
By this line of logic we should just legalize grenades, flamethrowers, we need these to keep the government in check...and so forth

Why not have grenades, bazookas, flamethrowers, freely available at walmart? whats the difference

---

i'd be comfortable with that