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Topic: Impeachment hearings are upon us!!
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 11559 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2019 03:49 PM
^^ it is the don and his cult that has eroded any respect due them. It will be interesting to watch how low they will go to defend their don. Thats why I'm paying attention to hearings and R. responses. This will be either the end of them or a new beginning. Their choice and one we must live with.------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 13783 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2019 04:27 PM
President Trump hasn't done anything for which he could or should be impeached.Demorats have 'plenty of nothing'. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 744 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2019 05:23 PM
I agree Juniperb this is sort of a hail mary, they're basically throwing all their ethics, morals, dignity, and adherence to law and decorum on the back burner in an attempt to grab power permanently. If it fails the trump cult (formerly known as the republican party) will spiral pretty badly and possibly into obsolescence. Even if they succeed its not gonna be a permanent situation, people will get sick of the baloney eventually. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 120231 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2019 06:41 PM
The Dems have lost all credibility. The only cult is the Never Trumpers Cult. And there's nothing in President Trump's tax returns. He has been audited every year. All these nothing burgers. You would think Dems would face reality at some point. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 13113 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2019 10:55 PM
I haven't been watching, but I'm going to watch today's testimony on c-span, when I can. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5855 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 16, 2019 03:04 PM
<< And there's nothing in President Trump's tax returns >> Then why does he not release them like how other Presidents do?IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 13783 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 16, 2019 04:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: << And there's nothing in President Trump's tax returns >> Then why does he not release them like how other Presidents do?
Let me clear this up for you and the rest of the leftist brigade. Trump is under no legal obligation to release his tax returns. Releasing tax returns is not a qualification for the Presidency of the US. The leftist loon Attorney General of Kalifornia just got shot down in court trying to make the release of tax returns mandatory to get on Kalifornia's ballot. On a personal level: No one...NO ONE on earth is going to stampede me into doing anything I have no legal obligation to do and don't want to do. It's obvious leftists are on a fishing expedition. The proper response to that bullshiite is to say F-THEM! IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 744 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 16, 2019 05:31 PM
Hi IQ he wont' release tax returns because there's something not good in them, what other reason could there be?If there was nothing in there he'd simply release them? Anyone can figure this one out IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 13783 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 16, 2019 05:37 PM
"Anyone can figure this one out"We already have figured it out. You and other leftists are the ones coming up short of understanding. It's embarrassing IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5855 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 17, 2019 03:12 PM
Usually only Mobsters use the "Legally Not Required" clause to avoid Transparency. Just sayin...IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 13783 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 17, 2019 03:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Usually only Mobsters use the "Legally Not Required" clause to avoid Transparency. Just sayin...
Most Americans understand if something is not legally required they can choose to not do it. What's your excuse for not knowing that? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 120231 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 17, 2019 07:46 PM
I wouldn't release my taxes either. I gather many in the future POTUS races won't.IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5855 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2019 06:10 AM
I think once Dems sweep power in 2020, they will pass a Law that only those who release tax returns can stand for elections. Even for House or Senate.Transparency is essential in Democracy. In Politics, only Mobsters and White Collar Criminals avoid releasing tax returns. Does not matter if they are from left or Right. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 120231 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2019 09:42 AM
You must also think one of these Dems will beat President Trump?IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 13783 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2019 12:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: I think once Dems sweep power in 2020, they will pass a Law that only those who release tax returns can stand for elections. Even for House or Senate.Transparency is essential in Democracy. In Politics, only Mobsters and White Collar Criminals avoid releasing tax returns. Does not matter if they are from left or Right.
Nutty! Additional requirements can't be added to qualifications to run for President..or be President...without a Constitutional Amendment. The lunatic leftist moron, naturally, a demorat..Becerra who is AG of Kalifornia already lost that case in Federal Court. People have to wonder where Becerra got his law degree. The Cracker Jacks Law School or was it Froot Loops University. Which brings us to you. For one so damned ignorant of US laws, the Constitution and main stream America, you have an excess of nutty opinions. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5855 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2019 10:02 AM
<<Which brings us to you. For one so damned ignorant of US laws, the Constitution and main stream America, you have an excess of nutty opinions.>> That is what was said by supporters of Al Capone too...IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 13113 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2019 04:26 PM
I liked Schiff’s closing statement. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 13113 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2019 09:03 PM
http://www.facebook.com/WatchClassInSession/photos/a.646692749041686/1038060979904859/?type=3&theater IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 13113 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2019 01:08 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/21/fiona-hill-will-tell-devin-nunes-his-face-that-his-ukraine-conspiracy-theory-is-harmful/?fbclid=IwAR02-o-BtmFO4-ZVocFeXwRopA9Z6R6G dx6O8LCGfx64zvk5FWlbTt1FKPMIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 120231 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2019 05:22 PM
All of this and not a single witness heard anything, except for one guy who thinks he can hear a phone conversation from a distance that is NOT on speakerphone. Another failed attempt to oust President Trump. Enjoy your big fat nothing burger! IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 13783 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2019 06:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: <<Which brings us to you. For one so damned ignorant of US laws, the Constitution and main stream America, you have an excess of nutty opinions.>> That is what was said by supporters of Al Capone too...
And you were there to record it for posterity. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 13783 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2019 09:27 PM
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 13783 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2019 09:30 PM
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todd Knowflake Posts: 2944 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 16, 2019 03:09 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/giuliani-drops-stunning-confession-and-undermines-trumps-defense-against-impeachment-again/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3248&recip_id= 14749&list_id=1 Giuliani drops stunning confession — and undermines Trump’s defense against impeachment againTrump attorney Rudy Giuliani has undermined President Donald Trump’s defense in the House of Representatives impeachment inquiry — again. In an interview with The New Yorker, Giuliani admitted that he got former American ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired so that he could more easily pursue his efforts to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden “I believed that I needed Yovanovitch out of the way,” he said. “She was going to make the investigations difficult for everybody.”
Giuliani also admitted that he recruited former Hill columnist John Solomon to help him spread negative information about Yovanovitch. ““I said, ‘John, let’s make this as prominent as possible,’ ” Giuliani said. “ ‘I’ll go on TV. You go on TV. You do columns.’ ” Yovanovitch testified under oath last month that she was the victim of a coordinated smear campaign between Giuliani and the president’s allies, who falsely accused her of being an enemy of the president. During her testimony, the longtime American diplomat admitted that Trump had a right to fire her, but asked why he and his allies found it necessary to drag her reputation through the mud. “While I obviously don’t dispute that the president has the right to withdraw an ambassador at any time for any reason, but what I do wonder is why it was necessary to smear my reputation?” she asked. http://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/russian-state-media-says-trump-is-their-agent-as-they-weaponize-giulianis-schemes-to-demoralize-ukraine/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3 248&recip_id=14749&list_id=1 Russian state media says Trump is their ‘agent’ as they weaponize Giuliani’s schemes to demoralize Ukraine In the wake of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s visit to the Oval Office last week, Russian state TV aired a segment titled “Puppet Master and ‘Agent’—How to Understand Lavrov’s Meeting With Trump” and characterized the visit as an example of President Trump being subservient to Russian interests. As The Daily Beast’s Julia Davis points out, “President Vladimir Putin’s propaganda brigades enjoy watching the heightened divisions in the United States, and how it hurts relations between the U.S. and Ukraine.” That enjoyment manifested itself in the segment, which aired on the Russian Sunday news show Vesti Nedeli, where host Vladimir Soloviev quipped that Trump would have to seek refuge in Russia once he’s out of office.
“State-television news shows use every opportunity to demoralize the Ukrainians with a set of talking points based on the U.S. president’s distaste for their beleaguered country,” Davis writes before citing another state-funded TV show where the host boasted about the meeting between Trump and Lavrov to a Ukrainian panelist.
“There are no disagreements or contradictions between Trump and Russia,” said Valery Korovin, director of the Center for Geopolitical Expertise, appearing on the state-television channel Rossiya-24.
The Kremlin is even promoting the work of Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. After Giuliani’s return to US from his “evidence gathering” trip to Ukraine, Russian state TV began airing clips of his OAN (One America News Network) “documentary,” which claims to provide evidence that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 US election and that former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch of lied under oath to Congress “to whitewash [Joe] Biden’s corruption.” “Giuliani’s efforts on behalf of President Trump are bound to pay propaganda dividends for the Kremlin,’ Davis writes. “Putin has expressed undisguised delight with the crusade led by Trump and Giuliani to whitewash Moscow’s interference in the U.S. elections and pin the blame on Kyiv,” he continued, adding that
According to Davis, the emerging narrative from Russia propaganda outlets puts the “hypocrisy of the Republicans on full display.” “The Kremlin, having argued for years that democracy is a sham and the West is devoid of morals and principles, can now showcase the GOP as its ‘Exhibit A.'”
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