posted January 05, 2020 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
If this isnt proof of DC's occupation by a foreign power, I cant think what is. We are no longer a sovereign nation. We are Bibi's personal bank and security force. We serve the damned. God have mercy on us.

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posted January 05, 2020 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
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http://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENUotVaWoAAGOrP?format=jpg&name=medium

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/141604554855825408?s=21

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Interesting and ironic.

That is why I worship no one in politics.

posted January 05, 2020 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump didn't respond when Iran destroyed our drone, because it would have killed 150 people. He has been very patient. But when they attacked our embassy (which is American soil), it was an act of war. This nut job was a terrorist who was an imminent threat.

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What you say would make perfect sense to me, Randall. However,

September 11, 2012, there was an attack on the US consulate (American soil) in Lybia that killed our US ambassador.

This is what Trump tweeted a couple of weeks later:

Oct. 6, 2012

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“Now that Obama’s numbers are in a tailspin watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran. He is desperate.”

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Oct. 22, 2012

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“Don’t let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in order to get elected – be careful Republicans!”

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posted January 05, 2020 04:53 PM            

Perhaps you forget that the Marxist Messiah, Obama and Hillary The Corrupt had already started a war with Libya that resulted in the murder of Muammar Gaddafi. Had Gaddafi still been in power in Libya, the attack on our Benghazi Consulate in Libya would never have happened. Our Libyan Ambassador and 3 security operators would still be alive.

Now, to your allegation that President Trump is starting..or trying to start a war with Iran:

Iran has been at war with the US since 1979 when they attacked our Embassy in Iran and took 52 Embassy staff hostages, holding them for 444 days.

posted January 05, 2020 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Explain, in detail how a Hellfire missile obliterating the Iranian terrorist, Solameini didn't serve American national security interests.

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Are you actually ******* kidding me here? Every drooling neocon traitor from the Reagan era on has been pushing for war with Iran. Bibi himself has publicly called for the US to do his dirty work and take them on. Is there anyone in Trump's admin who can shut up about Israeli interests? Maybe layoff convincing us those interests are equivalent to or even surpass American interests? They are literally telling us this but suddenly its all about American interests and avenging a nameless faceless "contractor."

And when did assassinating foreign officials become acceptable to Americans?

posted January 05, 2020 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Those tweets show that attack on American soils did not constitute in his eyes an act of war worthy of starting a war."

Perhaps you forget that the Marxist Messiah, Obama and Hillary The Corrupt had already started a war with Libya that resulted in the murder of Muammar Gaddafi. Had Gaddafi still been in power in Libya, the attack on our Benghazi Consulate in Libya would never have happened. Our Libyan Ambassador and 3 security operators would still be alive.

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Jwop, are you mourning the murder of Muammar Gaddafi? I am surprised as I didn't know he was the darling of the right and the protector of American interests.

In any case, it is pure speculation what would or not would have happened if Gaddafi was still in power. Perhaps you forgot that it was under Gaddafi's watch that the US embassy was attacked by rioting mobs in 1979 and destroyed.

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Now, to your allegation that President Trump is starting..or trying to start a war with Iran:

Iran has been at war with the US since 1979 when they attacked our Embassy in Iran and took 52 Embassy staff hostages, holding them for 444 days.

Iran has just been given a slap to wake them up to reality. Something which should have been done by Bush and Obama.

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Sigh...

posted January 05, 2020 08:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
What Jwhop said. Also, once Trump became President, he became privy to a lot of information that he didn't have access to as a civilian. He is more than entitled to change his opinions.

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I believe he is entitled to change his opinions. But wouldn't the gentlemanly, fairplay thing to do be to actually say that one regrets these past statements and acknowledge one's growth on the issue?

During Obama's presidency, Trump criticized Obama for any and EVERYTHING he did, and some of his tweets are now coming back to haunt him.

Some of us can perform all sort of mental gymnastics not to see the irony of it, but it is obvious to anyone with an ounce of impartiality.

One of the things that is poisoning the political climate in this great country of ours is people's rigidity as partisans and inability to admit where their beloved candidate went wrong. As such people become fanatics. Fanaticism is dangerous, imo.

Okay. Getting off my soapbox.

posted January 05, 2020 09:26 PM            

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Also great job by the Dems who have been so easily distracted by bullshiiit porn stars and Putin stories they missed catching the actual fox digging his way into the henhouse. I'm sure that wasn't intentional, right?

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posted January 05, 2020 10:29 PM            

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[B] I don't think Dems missed anything.

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What about the supposed adults that he's surrounded with, who are supposed to prevent things like this?

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He's surrounded by foxes. Have you taken a look at the white house at all within the last 50 yrs?

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Why did they think he wouldn't take the most extreme option they gave him?

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This is thoroughly nonsensical. I don't even know what this means?

posted January 06, 2020 12:23 PM            

You must be putting us on here.

posted January 06, 2020 03:58 PM            

Trump's Silence On the Pending 2nd Amendment Violating Virginia Gun Control Laws Speaks Volumes

posted January 06, 2020 04:08 PM            

Exactly what is President Trump doing that the 'Neocons' want him to do? WHAT?

Couldn't be negotiating with the Taliban and planning to draw down US forces in Afghanistan.

Couldn't be removing US forces from Syria.

posted January 06, 2020 04:14 PM            

Yeah, there are some who believe that if Trump doesn't send the National Guard into Virginia to arrest the Governor and demokrats in the state legislature...then he must be in favor of their unconstitutional gun grabbing nonsense.

Their nonsense will be handled in the usual way, in the US federal Courts, all the way up to the Supreme Court where the Governor and his gun grabbing nuts will lose.

And then, there's this:

As a majority of local counties in Virginia are declaring themselves “Second Amendment sanctuaries,” a direct response to a new push by Democrats to pass stricter gun control measures, one of the state’s county sheriffs says he’ll “deputize citizens” as auxiliary deputies to protect their constitutional right to bear firearms.

posted January 06, 2020 07:02 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Trump is doing EXACTLY WHAT THE NEOCONS WANT."

Exactly what is President Trump doing that the 'Neocons' want him to do? WHAT?

Couldn't be negotiating with the Taliban and planning to draw down US forces in Afghanistan.

Couldn't be removing US forces from Syria.

So what could it be?

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Jwhop. Iran is the prize, and has been since BP. You know this. You are tapancing because you dont want to look this in the eye: Trump has gone RINO on you.

No, in fact, its worse than that. Just as the neo Marxist progressives have stolen the Demo party from Carter era liberals, so Trump is remaking the the GOP into a pro Zionist, pro immigration, pro corp and socially "woke" party.

posted January 07, 2020 04:19 PM            

Acts of War was the subject. Bringing about the murder of a head of state falls into the category of...Acts of War. The Marxist Messiah, Obama and Hillary The Corrupt were complicit.

posted January 07, 2020 04:23 PM            

Virginia gun owners are making clear their plans for noncompliance as Democrats prepare to take control of the legislature and Gov. Ralph Northam (D) promises a war on guns.

On January 7, 2019, Breitbart News reported 118 of Virginia's local governments have declared Second Amendment Sanctuary status since the November 5, 2019, elections gave Democrats enough seats to control the state legislature. From those elections till now, cities, counties, and municipalities in the state have proclaimed their plans to refuse enforcement of any new gun controls which the incoming majority might pass.

In many cases the sheriff of a certain county has led the charge. For example, Amelia County Sheriff Ricky Walker made clear there will be no enforcement of laws that infringe the Second Amendment. Walker went so far as to stress he would not follow an unconstitutional gun control, even if ordered to do so by a judge............