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teasel
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posted March 02, 2020 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks for explaining. I dont use twitter so no idea what goes on.

All this "free stuff" Bernie is offering up is not out of his own pocket.
It will cost someone and worker bees, want to guess who??
We already pay for free saftey nets. The taxes already paid isnt enough to keep those safety nets afloat so where will the new funds for new freebes come from?

If Bernie knows, he isn't saying and that is for a good reason.


At the same time, there are people paying huge amounts to insurance companies that do their damnedest to not pay the bills, once the need comes along.

Dad told me that he didn't get insurance for me, because the monthly cost bumped up by several hundred dollars, and there was also a minimum amount that they expected you to pay, before the insurance company did their job - something like $6000 would be required from us first. We can't afford that.

In England, it seems like the Tories have massively screwed up the NHS, which is what I grew up with.

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posted March 02, 2020 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Biden Calls Chris Wallace ‘Chuck’ Immediately After Dismissing Questions About His Mental Capacity

Former Vice President Joe Biden called Fox News’ Chris Wallace by the wrong name during his first interview with the host since 2007 after dismissing questions surrounding his mental capacity.........
http://dailycaller.com/2020/03/01/joe-biden-chris-wallace-chuck-fox-news/

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posted March 02, 2020 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
America is not and never will be a “full Democracy.” America is a Republic.

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posted March 02, 2020 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand that sentiment Randall, but democracy is what the Democratic Party represents in politics. And this conversation is a “Democrat” topic.

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posted March 02, 2020 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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America is not and never will be a “full Democracy.” America is a Republic.

Why do people keep getting this wrong?

The US Constitution guarantees to every state a REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

Guarantee of Republican Form of Government

SECTION 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-4/21-guarantee-of-republican-form-of-government.html

Therefore, the United States is a REPUBLIC, not a democracy.

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posted March 02, 2020 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
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Biden Calls Chris Wallace ‘Chuck’ Immediately After Dismissing Questions About His Mental Capacity

Former Vice President Joe Biden called Fox News’ Chris Wallace by the wrong name during his first interview with the host since 2007 after dismissing questions surrounding his mental capacity.........
http://dailycaller.com/2020/03/01/joe-biden-chris-wallace-chuck-fox-news/ [/B]


And yet he's still smarter and more capable than Trump.

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posted March 02, 2020 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The USA is two party system, on all accounts

Please don’t over-exaggerate how 50 states function as a republic

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posted March 02, 2020 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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These types of "benefits" are what a full democracy entitles to it's citizens.

How will these "benefits" be funded???

That't the answer I seek... not a definition of democracy.

I'll look in to read Your funding presentation.

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posted March 02, 2020 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ The ULTRA Super-Rich and big Corporations have been given tax-cuts by the tea-party admin! -- even taking "advantage" of government Hand-Outs!!!!

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posted March 02, 2020 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's right Mirage!!! Who covers that loss/cost...

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posted March 02, 2020 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I've heard some of these Super-rich people saying that even *they* think and agree that they 'should' be taxed more..

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posted March 02, 2020 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.businessinsider.com/american-billionaires-paid-less-taxes -than-working-class-wealth-gap-2019-10

Average working class American pays 28% in taxes. American Billionaires pay 23%: If we all paid equal taxes, we'd by default have more funds as a country.

Whats 5% of a billion, per billion?

The math: for every 1 billion taxed by the current standard paid for by the average American tax-payer---50 million dollars is saved per billion for them yearly. As hard-working Americans they deserve the break I suppose, because of all those extra hours they put into their work week. Let the rest of America cover for them.. these 2,000 people need the help.

So lets do more non-hypothetical math. Billionaires are not paying the same as working class people.

in 2017. 2,043 billionares. Combined wealth is $7.71 trillion

7.71 trillion dollars of unequal taxes?
If we all have equal taxes: 7.71 trillion x the 5% difference =


385 billion US dollars from equal-taxes-paid added to the US economy

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posted March 02, 2020 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In theory, yes!! Do you think this is going to happen under bernie?
If so, what's your basis for believing it.

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posted March 02, 2020 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe Americans (300 million people) are not stupid enough to kill themself to save 2,000 individuals some hundred billion dollars worth of pocket change. Not for long at least

Equal taxes is not asking a lot. Americans can decide whatever they want to do with it after the fact

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posted March 02, 2020 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it's not. But...
To "believe" this is going to happen under Bernie, based on a capitalist country, is idealism and idealism don't feed the bulldog..

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posted March 02, 2020 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
The USA is two party system, on all accounts

Please don’t over-exaggerate how 50 states function as a republic


The United States is a REPUBLIC, not a democracy.

The democrat party is one of several political parties in the US...having nothing whatsoever to do with the form of the US government.

When the Constitution talks about a REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT it's not talking about the Republican party.

The Democratic Party was solidified in American politics with the election of Andrew Jackson in 1829.

The Republican Party came along with the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860.

The REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES pre-dates them both.

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posted March 02, 2020 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway, back to the topic at hand.


Klobs and booty have dropped out leaving Biden and bernie and Bloomberg.

Bloomberg May serve as a foil that aids bernie at this point. Warren is still in but she seems to be less popular than bernie and thus siphoning off less votes.


I predict Berne will come out on top tomorrow taking Texas and California.


I’m going to offer another prediction I think bernie will take Texas in November

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posted March 02, 2020 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

I predict Berne will come out on top tomorrow taking Texas and California.

I’m going to offer another prediction I think bernie will take Texas in November


Wait, are you sure tomorrow is the day?
I have it on good authority that it's Thursday!

Crowd laughs as Biden says tomorrow is ‘Super Thursday’
March 2, 2020
Olaf Ekberg

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/crowd-laughs-as-biden-says-tomorrow-is-super-thursday/

Bernie The Commie has no chance of winning Texas in November. Try telling Texans you intend to take their healthcare, take their guns, outlaw oil and natural gas, throw open the Southern border to anyone who walks across, give illegal aliens free healthcare, free college, free housing and full welfare benefits and let felons in prison vote in elections and more likely, Bernie The Commie will be run out of Texas, tarred and feathered on a rail.

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posted March 03, 2020 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Embarrassing in the extreme that a US Senator for 30+ years can't remember the opening sentence of the Declaration Of Independence.

Joe Biden Badly Bungles Declaration of Independence Quote in Stump Speech
Charlie Spiering
2 Mar 2020

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday botched a quote from the Declaration of Independence during a speech in Texas.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, all men and women are created by, go, you know, you know the thing,” he said, struggling to remember the words of the famous clause from the Declaration of Independence...........

http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/02/joe-biden-badly-bungles-declaration-of-independence-quote-in-stump-speech/

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posted March 03, 2020 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m in Texas, and agree with you Blue Roamer. Not sure about November but have a feeling today he will take the most votes

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posted March 03, 2020 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The man who says he will ban fossil fuels and guns will take Texas? What have you been smoking?

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posted March 03, 2020 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Handing over every future presidential election to the modern urbanist has got to be the most disastrous idea since we willingly opened the borders. Two major events are going to happen, and soon. The Boomers are going to die out and take their votes with them, and the electoral college is going to be tossed. Game over.

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posted March 03, 2020 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The man who says he will ban fossil fuels and guns will take Texas? What have you been smoking?

Randall its not 1985 anymore. DEMOGRAPHICS.

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posted March 03, 2020 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one who wants to ban those oil fields will win in Texas.

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posted March 03, 2020 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So why is texas turning blue?

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