posted March 04, 2020 11:14 AM            

I heard the new president of the USA is either Sanders, Biden or Trump.
Free healthcare and education are the norm here and in many countries around, therefore I hope you guys choose to have the same "privileges".
From my perspective everything will work out just fine for Sanders. Let's not panic because the Trumpers AND the democrat establishment, and the pharmaceutical industries are all working together to portray Bernie Sanders as unelectable in front of Trump, and that is wrong in my opinion. Fear and anger are not necessary, determination and confidence are. What is at stake ? Is it wining or loosing for Sanders or is it radically changing the social norms in the US so the drugs and hospital fees and médecine in general are reduced significantly, as they are everywhere else ? Ask other nations ! Same for education.
If it is the former, then yes indeed there is a chance that it does not happen. Obviously. That is democracy. However if it is the latter then let's be pragmatic and let Trump be elected again, and be adamant again and again the next times around, and again and again...
Trumpers bet and wish that Biden will be The democrat nominee. Their only hope is for a divided opposition. They know the fervor of Sanders and his troop to defend their cause, and they expect Sanders supporter to let Trump be elected again to keep disrupting the old establishment’s politics.

However if Sanders beats Biden in the debates and manages to explain how is program is working and financed, he has a chance to be the democrat nominee, and therefore win the election by compelling the democrat establishment to support him.
Sanders program is the key, not the man, and the cult of the personality must be a tool, not an end in itself. I hope people who support him will dive in the mechanics of his program and go around explaining how it is possible to drastically lower the cost for medecines and treatment as it is the case everywhere else in developed nations. Some Trump voters would probably lend an ear to his propositions.

posted March 04, 2020 11:44 AM            

Where part of the problem is here, is that many members of the government, of Congress, have INVESTMENTS in health care services and products. They MAKE money FROM health care, "as-it-is". The prices are freaking high, and they reap from it. They don't want it changed from that. It's selfish.

Voting for ALL Americans to have good quality health care available to them, would be voting against THEIR own Wallet's interest, unfortunately.

That's what Trump represents... the superrich, the corporations he gives more and more tax-breaks to.

Bernie would have to get by the 60% of TeaParty Republicans in the Senate. They represent the *corporations*.

We have to 'replace' teaparty senate seats, with TRUE Republicans and Democrats who can work TOGETHER "for the BEST interests" of the American people.

The teaparty likes to "label" their OWN selves AS though *THEY* are "the American people."

NO. The American People are ALL the people.

posted March 04, 2020 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I supported Bernie last time, in the primary, but this time, some of his most vocal supporters have put me off. The coffin at a Biden event, was gross.

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omg!!!!

- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004689/Left-wing-prot esters-ambush-Joe-Biden-COFFIN-chant-drop-Joe.html

Yes. I myself had found some of the behaviors of Bernie's crowd reminiscent of those who follow Trump.

Too VIOLENT-- it's one thing to verbally express themselves, but the "tone" is sooo aggressive.

The 'sound' of "some" in Bernie's rally, while doing their boos, hisses, and chantings are frightfully close to the neo-nazis hitler-youth who were visually prominent, and loud, at Trump's own election rallies.

Did Bernie REALIZE what effect this would have??

posted March 04, 2020 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:

I TRULY don't personally think or feel that 'these' actions represented what Bernie would approve. It seems kind of out-of-his-control.

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I guess. I don't know. I'll probably give him my primary vote, but I doubt he'll win here in Ohio. At least with Biden, the ACA won't be decimated.

posted March 04, 2020 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
omg!!!!

- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004689/Left-wing-prot esters-ambush-Joe-Biden-COFFIN-chant-drop-Joe.html

Yes. I myself had found some of the behaviors of Bernie's crowd reminiscent of those who follow Trump.

Too VIOLENT-- it's one thing to verbally express themselves, but the "tone" is sooo aggressive.

The 'sound' of "some" in Bernie's rally, while doing their boos, hisses, and chantings are [b]frightfully close to the neo-nazis hitler-youth who were visually prominent, and loud, at Trump's own election rallies.

Did Bernie REALIZE what effect this would have??

I TRULY don't personally think or feel that 'these' actions represented what Bernie would approve. It seems kind of out-of-his-control. [/B]

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This "revolution" he is trying to enforce is to blame. When has there ever been a peaceful revolution?

posted March 04, 2020 08:10 PM            

At this point she needs to throw in the towel, staying in is just vexing and vengeful towards bernie.

posted March 04, 2020 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Why is Warren not withdrawing?

At this point she needs to throw in the towel, staying in is just vexing and vengeful towards bernie.

hope she gives up before the next primary

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Cause she's a narcissistic sociopathic liar?

I kid. She'll quit when shes told to quit.

posted March 04, 2020 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Our choices are looking weird, an angry old Jewish man, a demented uncle, and a demented mob boss.

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posted March 05, 2020 12:02 AM            

DNC to Change Debate Rules as Tulsi Gabbard Reaches Delegate Requirement

posted March 05, 2020 02:11 PM            

It might actually be smarter for biden to take warren, since he already has the african american vote, he can pull bernie people and women towards him with warren as a VP

posted March 05, 2020 05:41 PM            

Following Warren Exit, Dying Medicare for All Activist Ady Barkan Says, "I'm All In" for Bernie Sanders
"It's not about him. It's about us."

posted March 05, 2020 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by pire:

Following Warren Exit, Dying Medicare for All Activist Ady Barkan Says, "I'm All In" for Bernie Sanders
"It's not about him. It's about us."

Published on
Thursday, March 05, 2020
byCommon Dreams[/b]

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Bernie is a gateway drug

posted March 05, 2020 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Thats a tough choice for Sanders, he may be better taking an african american since he is struggling with the african american community.

It might actually be smarter for biden to take warren, since he already has the african american vote, he can pull bernie people and women towards him with warren as a VP

Both biden and bernie have already sought warren's endorsement

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Blue's on a roll.