posted April 01, 2020 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Lyme disease is not contagious from human to human, so there is no stigma associated with it.

West Nile virus name originated in 1937.

The term German Measles started back in 1814.

This is 2020. We are better than that.

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omg you just used the current year argument : laughing:

posted April 02, 2020 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
omg you just used the current year argument : laughing:

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So glad I could make you laugh.

posted April 02, 2020 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
Belage current year argument is inherently invalid. Rethink your approach, give us something substantial to work with, and we can start again.

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If you are trying to say that what was valid in public policy in 1834 and 1939 should be still be valid in 2020, then say that and deal with the consequences. Don't hide behind current year argument shaming rhetoric.

Your position does not take into account that society has actually evolved over time and that some of what was acceptable back then is not necessarily acceptable now. We don't do many things in 2020 like we did in 1930. Example, it is no longer acceptable IN OUR CIVILIZED SOCIETY to do public lynching, promote racially segregated dining and buses, harass gay people, conduct medical experiment on unsuspecting patients, expect women to be virgin until marriage, exploit child labor etc. .

posted April 02, 2020 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
No. Earliest known case dates to the 50s in a Congolese man. HIV was spreading throughout the world soon after. Famously, a Haitian man living in 1960s NYC and a 1970s Norwegian family. Doctors outside of the US knew something was up, it just took time to isolate and identify the virus.

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Still waiting for that link showing that this hindsight information was known in the early days of AIDS and is a reason why AIDS was never named NY virus or American virus.

posted April 03, 2020 03:44 PM            

So let's move on to the AIDS topic.

We agree on this, yes?

The HIV virus had spread from Africa to North America and Europe by 1980. Well before in fact.
Symptoms of what would be known as AIDS had been noted in North American and European patients prior to 1980.

posted April 03, 2020 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
The only ancient STD I know of is Syphilis.

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And the Euros got that from the "Indians" by way of Columbus

posted April 04, 2020 11:40 AM            

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Originally posted by shura:
Belage, the current year argument is a joke with good reason. Stop and ask yourself if you'd really like to dive into that one. Just the idea that we are a "more civilized" people in current year then we were in non current year is silly. The suggestion that civilization is on a never ending and reliable upswing is …. how can we respond to this but with laughter? I mean I don't know I suppose I try scorn.

So let's move on to the AIDS topic.

We agree on this, yes?

The HIV virus had spread from Africa to North America and Europe by 1980. Well before in fact.
Symptoms of what would be known as AIDS had been noted in North American and European patients prior to 1980.

Are you with me so far?

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I am not with you.

If you are morally and ethically comfortable stigmatizing millions of people, and you want to use pseudo logical arguments to do so, you are entirely within your right, though I would have preferred you do so in another one of those threads where this kind of behavior is rampant.

posted April 04, 2020 12:49 PM            

https://tagtheflag.co/newsletter/

It gives both sides of the political discourse.

posted April 04, 2020 02:00 PM            

It seems the virus jumped on to humans and been thriving there since. This virus kills the subject very slowly and not as contagious as the one found in America (HIV1).

It is debatable how it jumped from animal to Humans. Perhaps some with wounds on their legs walked barefoot and stamped on stools of chimps . Anytype of contact could have occurred.
It may have jumped on to white people as they had interracial sex.

The HIV 1 strand was isolated in America.

We all know by now the black people are genetically different than the white. The beings (ETs or interdimensional ) has attempted to make the white kind supreme. The virus there fore behaves reacts differently with their DNA.

Spanish flu originated in America but when it jumped to Spain it found the perfect ground to spread and grow.

I think the corona virus COVID-19 too will have different strains as it jumps races like the HIV. HIV is also a type of corona virus.

posted April 05, 2020 12:27 PM            

CDC Tells Hospitals To List COVID as Cause of Death Even if You're Just Assuming or It Only Contributed
CDC Issues Horrifying Orders to Doctors with Potential COVID Patients
Douglas Golden
April 4, 2020

The problem with making informed decisions about coronavirus is that we don’t have a whole lot of data on it at the moment.

The data that we do have, meanwhile, could end up being terminally skewed, particularly the data that’s been coming out of China.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidance on determining COVID-19 as a cause of death isn’t going to help those numbers.

Issued March 24, the guidance tells hospitals to list COVID-19 as a cause of death regardless of whether or not there’s actual testing to confirm that’s the case.

Instead, even if the coronavirus was just a contributing factor or if it’s “assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” it can be listed as the primary cause......

......Consider, for instance, that the CDC is estimating there were between 24,000 and 63,000 deaths in the United States from influenza between October and March.

In NYC, does that mean some of those deaths got lumped under COVID-19? Will this keep on happening?............
http://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed/

posted April 05, 2020 12:54 PM            

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ANTI-PARASITE DRUG USED SINCE 1980S MAY HELP STOP CORONAVIRUS

Australian researchers have published a study showing a drug commonly used to treat parasite infections can also kill coronavirus in a laboratory setting in under 48 hours.
Researchers at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia have discovered that the antiparasitic drug Ivermectin can inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2, the virus the causes COVID-19, according to a study published Friday in the journal Antiviral Research.

"Ivermectin is very widely used and seen as a safe drug. We need to figure out now whether the dosage you can use it at in humans will be effective葉hat's the next step," said the study's leader Dr. Kylie Wagstaff in a statement.

"We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it," she added.

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The exact manner in which the drug is able to kill the virus is not yet known, although Wagstaff said it was likely done by "dampening down" the ability of host cells to clear the drug.

Ivermectin has been widely used since the 1980s to treat head lice, scabies and several other infections caused by parasites. The drug is also used to treat the skin condition rosacea.

Research was carried out on cell cultures in the lab, which does not always translate to effectiveness in people who have contracted an infection. Ivermectin has been effective against a wide range of viruses when studied in vitro. Further research will be needed to determine whether the drug could be used to treat COVID-19.

posted April 05, 2020 02:03 PM            

I use it as an injectable dewormer in my large animals.
I was quite suprised at the info and hope there is more help using it for covid.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2751445/

posted April 05, 2020 02:40 PM            

Zelenko claims his cure rate with a hydroxychloroquine cocktail is 100 percent.

posted April 05, 2020 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
How many people dying of influenza or other respiratory illness are being listed as deceased by Coronavirus? Are we on our way to a very light year of influenza deaths because many influenza deaths are being reported as coronavirus?

[b]CDC Tells Hospitals To List COVID as Cause of Death Even if You're Just Assuming or It Only Contributed
CDC Issues Horrifying Orders to Doctors with Potential COVID Patients
Douglas Golden
April 4, 2020

The problem with making informed decisions about coronavirus is that we don’t have a whole lot of data on it at the moment.

The data that we do have, meanwhile, could end up being terminally skewed, particularly the data that’s been coming out of China.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidance on determining COVID-19 as a cause of death isn’t going to help those numbers.

Issued March 24, the guidance tells hospitals to list COVID-19 as a cause of death regardless of whether or not there’s actual testing to confirm that’s the case.

Instead, even if the coronavirus was just a contributing factor or if it’s “assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” it can be listed as the primary cause......

......Consider, for instance, that the CDC is estimating there were between 24,000 and 63,000 deaths in the United States from influenza between October and March.

In NYC, does that mean some of those deaths got lumped under COVID-19? Will this keep on happening?............
http://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-dea th-even-just-assuming-contributed/

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That is interesting. I am getting a different story here in a reprint from a washington post article, where a CDC official explains how they account for coronavirus death. They say they only counts deaths in which the presence of the coronavirus is confirmed in a laboratory test:

Coronavirus death toll in U.S. almost certainly higher than official count:
https://www.boston.com/news/national-news-2/2020/04/05/coronavirus-death-toll

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The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention counts only deaths in which the presence of the coronavirus is confirmed in a laboratory test. “We know that it is an underestimation,” agency spokeswoman Kristen Nordlund said.

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posted April 05, 2020 06:46 PM            

On the other hand, it is easier for the hospitals to attribute death to CV even though the cause of death could be flu or some other respiratory issues. Who ever is the master mind needs a boost in the number of victims for their Agenda.