posted May 08, 2020 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/03/michigan-gretchen-whitmer-lockd own-protest-racism

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Nothing here either. There were people with guns, in an open carry state, at a protest against taking their rights away...ok.

From the article: " “There were swastikas and Confederate flags and nooses and people with assault rifles." WHITMER

Nooses?? I didn't see any nooses? Can someone point them out if I am missing them

"Displaying the Confederate flag, or other symbols of the slave-owning south during the American civil war, is usually seen as racist. While some claim they are celebrating southern identity, it is widely seen as a racist symbol deeply offensive to black Americans. There is also an ongoing campaign to remove Confederate war statues from public display or rename streets and buildings which commemorate Confederate generals or politicians." "

Yet another mention of Confederate flags...which this article even claims SOME white supremacists tote around. Whether someone believes that or not is only an opinion. I dont think every guy with a shaved head is a white supremacist so why would I conclude someone carrying a Confederate flag is? That is pure nonsense.

posted May 08, 2020 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Also curious as to how everyone feels about the protesters outside Dr Amy's home, carrying guns up and down her street, and saying that violence wouldn't happen "for now". That's a threat.

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posted May 08, 2020 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
I wonder of the whites reactions if all the blacks were to storm the government building in Michigan. The cops wouldn't have thought twice before firing on them. Racism indeed. Whites get away.

Did America lost its soul then?

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As if the US has never experienced armed black protestors? As if police have never shot into a crowd of armed - or unarmed! - white protestors?

Honestly, does nothing escape the memory hole?

posted May 08, 2020 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Right. These people were afraid for the lives. They wondered if they would be shot if they voted the "wrong" way.

Now I need to go and relax again. I know jwhop is so concerned about my headaches. I get them regularly, and I'm dealing with vertigo right now, although it's better tonight - because I've been resting.

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posted May 09, 2020 01:48 AM            

REUTERS FACT CHECK MAY 7, 2020 / 9:19 AM / 2 DAYS AGO
True claim: Woodstock took place in the middle of a pandemic
5 MIN READ

Social media users have been sharing an image online that claims the popular music festival Woodstock, which took place in August 1969, happened in the middle of a pandemic. This claim is correct.

Examples can be seen here and here . Many of the claims seem to reference an article called “Woodstock occurred in the middle of a pandemic” by the American Institute for Economic Research ( here ).

The comments on these posts have gathered mixed reactions from users. The posts have been flagged multiple times as part of Facebook’s efforts to curb misinformation related to the new coronavirus.

One of the most commonly seen claims says: “The Hong Kong Flu (H3N2) of 1968, killed 1 million worldwide, and 100,000 in the US, most excess deaths being in people 65+ (via the CDC). Nothing changed economically, nothing closed, no social distancing, no masks. No one was considered selfish then.”

The Woodstock Music and Art Fair was an iconic music festival that took place in August 1969 at a dairy farm in upstate New York. The organizers expected 30,000 people but hundreds of thousands showed up. There were reports of traffic jams 20 miles (32 km) long, which resulted in concert-goers abandoning their cars and walking to the venue. The festival did not have enough food, water and sleeping areas for the unexpected crowd. ( here )

It is true that Woodstock occurred during the Hong Kong flu pandemic, which was a global outbreak. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explains on its website:

“It was first noted in the United States in September 1968. The estimated number of deaths was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older. The H3N2 virus continues to circulate worldwide as a seasonal influenza A virus.” ( here )

The pandemic lasted until 1970 ( here and here ).

The death toll was comparable with the 1957 Asian flu pandemic that killed 1.1 million worldwide ( here ). As of May 6, 2020at least 262,238 people globally had died during the current COVID-19 outbreak ( here ).The worst pandemic in modern history, the Spanish Influenza of 1918, is estimated to have killed at least 50 million ( here ).

A New York Times article from August 17, 1969 reported that the Woodstock festival’s producer, Michael Lang, said a dozen doctors came to the festival not because of “widespread illnesses” but because of “the potential threat of a virus cold or pneumonia epidemic among such a large gathering.” ( here )

A Wall Street Journal article comparing the new coronavirus outbreak to the Hong Kong Flu of 1968 reads:“In 1968-70, news outlets devoted cursory attention to the virus while training their lenses on other events such as the moon landing and the Vietnam War, and the cultural upheaval of the civil-rights movements, student protests and the sexual revolution.”Susan Craddock, a professor at the University of Minnesota, told the WSJ that mortality rates for the 1968 pandemic were significantly lower than those of COVID-19, and that without 24-hour news coverage, online resources and social media to heighten public anxiety, politicians were under less pressure to act than they are today.( here )

VERDICT
True. The 1969 Woodstock music festival did take place during a global pandemic, the Hong Kong flu, which started the previous year.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact checking work  here  .​

posted May 09, 2020 06:37 PM            

Another fun fact: we fought the Revolutionary War during a brutal smallpox epidemic.

Now we have newcomers, with no apparent understanding of traditional American culture, spouting crap like this
http://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/496460-msnbc-contributor-says-being-freedom-obsessed-blinds-americans-to-other-types%3famp

posted May 09, 2020 10:07 PM            

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So 100,000 deaths is acceptable now? We’re already closing in on that.

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I think you are missing the point. The point is that they did not shut down the entire economy because of the pandemic.

The population of the US in 1969 was 202.7 millions. The population of the US in 2020 is 331 millions. So 100,000 dying in 1969 out of 202.7 millions was a much higher percentage then 100,000 dying out of 331 millions.

posted May 11, 2020 02:45 AM            

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[URL=http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/what-are-we-doing-doctors-are-fed-conspiracies-ravaging-ers-n1201446?fbclid=IwAR2_PLAxq6n6clSv--w2Lgt4YXbAMDvIMVzmGsvPk3BiK_Ccc36jLF8AdLU ]http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/what-are-we-doing-doctors-are-fed-conspiracies-ravaging-ers-n1201446?fbclid=IwAR2_PLAxq6n6clSv-l-w2Lgt4YXbAMDvIMVzmGsvPk3BiK_Ccc36jLF8AdLU[/U R L]

'What are we doing this for?': Doctors are fed up with conspiracies ravaging ERs
"I left work and I felt so deflated," one doctor said about an effort to counter misinformation he saw on Facebook. "I let it get to me."

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posted May 12, 2020 12:53 AM            

Beforeitsnews.com

posted May 12, 2020 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by todd:

So why are hospitals across the country furloughing doctors and nurses because they are so under capacity.some hospitals will go bankrupt if the quarantine goes on much longer.....jeezzzz there certainly is a difference from what the main stream media is saying and the facts on the ground
todd

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In my state, hospitals had to apply for federal help because they are losing money due to functioning UNDER CAPACITY during a so called pandemic.

Oh the irony!

And the Governor is still dragging his feet in easing the restrictions.

posted May 12, 2020 09:11 AM            

We have been lied to. Most of us didn't even know there were previous deadly pandemics other than the famous Spanish Flu that was touted all over the media as our possible fate if we didn't submit to the strictest lockdown and stay at home orders.

And if the issue for the remaining time of this pandemic is to make sure hospitals are not overwhelmed, then how about building more hospitals dedicated to this issue and training and hiring more respiratory specialists to handle surges? That will be much less costly than the current stay at home solution.

posted May 13, 2020 11:36 PM            

In a 4-3 decision, the Wisconsin Supreme Court struck down the Gov. Tony Evers' administration's stay-at-home order.

The ruling essentially reopens the state, lifting caps on the size of gatherings, allowing people to travel as they please and allowing shuttered businesses to reopen, including bars and restaurants, the Associated Press reported.

Health secretary Andrea Palm had issued the order, and the court found she didn't have the authority to do so......

posted May 14, 2020 02:57 PM            

You mean...to intimidate petty little tyrants don't you?

posted May 14, 2020 03:14 PM            

Another phantom limb. An aspect of superstition perhaps. What is real?
Agenda of those in control or is this a natural virus and the Democrats government are right in preventing 1 percent of the population from dying if they can. Fascists aren't thrilled with it as they need workers.

Things will be clearer post May 20 when saturn retrogrades. I am hearing horror stories of goods (especially leather) in mall getting mold and rotting because ac/heat is not on. Not sure here or international malls. All universities in NJ campus students were told to leave and evacuate dorms.

posted May 15, 2020 12:55 PM            

This was true before Covid-19 pandemic.
This isn't an epidemic yet in some parts of USA. Perhaps in those parts this is true. USA is huge and we need to be specific. Also this disease is bringing in more revenues to the hospital due to the Special handling of the patients. In good times, In bad times, Elites always makes money ..