posted June 07, 2020 02:55 AM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
If all lives matter, why aren't you saying blue lives matter?

Good question.

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posted June 07, 2020 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
If all lives matter, why aren't you saying blue lives matter?

Good question.

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posted June 08, 2020 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
http://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1269502256639963137

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posted June 08, 2020 12:52 AM            

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2020/06/02/metro-courthouse-graffiti-nashville-protests-george-floyd/5310675002/

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One of Nashville's most iconic and historic buildings will remain covered with profanity-laced graffiti, scars from Saturday's protests that turned violent, for at least several more days, a Metro government spokeswoman said.

Removing the graffiti while protecting the limestone at the Metro Courthouse is the city's "top priority," said Velvet Hunter of the General Services department via email.
The cleaning product was ordered Monday and is expected to arrive within 24 hours, Hunter said. But workers won't know how effective that product is until they receive it, she said.

"It’ll depend upon how many applications of the product are needed on the porous limestone," she said, adding that she hopes the graffiti will be gone "in less than a week."

Nashville police: Arrest made in historic courthouse fire

Anti-police slogans and at least one slur against President Donald Trump were spray painted on the courthouse Saturday night after peaceful protests over the death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man, later turned violent.

Meanwhile, a worker from Ohio-based The Tradesmen Group — which specializes in restoring historic buildings — said Monday he was there to try to remove some graffiti from granite fountains and cement walkways. The worker declined to give his name.

Most of the graffiti is on limestone, which he said is far more difficult to remove while preserving the historical integrity of the rock.

Lifelong Nashvillian Charlotte Herring, 74, shook her head and said the site made her sick.

"This courthouse has been here forever, and it's something we grew up with," Herring said. "It makes you want to cry."

Herring walked away a few seconds later, saying over her shoulder: "Maybe some good can come out of it."

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https://wlos.com/news/local/asheville-protest-demonstration-vandals-damage-urban-outfitters-george-floyd

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ASHEVILLE, N.C. (WLOS) — Demonstrations in Asheville escalated quickly for a second night Monday as tear gas and rubber bullets were used as protesters set off fireworks and vandalized numerous downtown buildings.

Businesses from Prichard Park to the Vance Monument were defaced with graffiti. “I love this town. I grew up here and I support the protesters and getting out there and expressing their anguish, but I don’t support any of this, the breaking of the windows but you know I think it’s a really difficult situation,” said Caleb Rudow

Throughout downtown Asheville, residents and business owners started the day with shattered glass from protests that began peacefully but ended anything but.
Asheville Police confirm someone fired a round of shots last night, shattering the glass at the front of the Urban Outfitters store on Haywood Street. That wasn’t the only business that was damaged. The owner of homegrown business Hazel Twenty on Patton Avenue says she got a phone alert when someone shattered two windows in her storefront, a heavy blow for a store barely recovering from the COVID-19 shutdown. “We had just opened our doors two short weeks ago, just starting to feel like we’re getting our feet underneath us and building up a little bit momentum and then to have to be faced with having to board up and shut down is pretty defeating,” says Lexi DiYeso.

DiYeso says she’s thankful her insurance will cover the window repair and that her business was not looted but is hesitant to rush towards a permanent fix.

The Asheville Police Department put out an alert early Tuesday morning notifying businesses that owners may want to arrive earlier than normal today to assess potential damages.

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posted June 08, 2020 12:57 AM            

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Nashville police have arrested a 23-year-old man on charges of aggravated rioting and felony vandalism in connection to the damage caused Saturday night to the city's Metro Courthouse.

Detectives from the specialized investigations division took Tondrique Fitzgerald into custody Monday evening, according to a Twitter post from the Metro Nashville Police Department.

Police said Fitzgerald is accused of pulling a granite plaque commemorating the civil rights movement in Nashville off the exterior of the courthouse. The plaque was smashed and the pieces were used to break the building's windows.

Detectives from the specialized investigations division took Tondrique Fitzgerald into custody Monday evening in connection with damaged caused to the Metro Nashville courthouse. (Photo: Submitted photo)

Fitzgerald is also accused of encouraging others to commit vandalism, police said.
He is the second person to be arrested by Nashville police in connection to damage done to the courthouse, which serves as city hall.

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posted June 08, 2020 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
@shura

"Jwhop, we've discussed which way the the military and police will lean in an hypothetical (ahem) insurrection. You have long insisted they will lean right and maintain the peace. I disagreed. How can I explain the many cops and soldiers marching, dancing, and taking the knee to protestors?"

Then, we'll continue to disagree on this subject. You're talking small numbers of police and soldiers making nice with peaceful protesters. That doesn't mean they even agree with them.

If democrats and their brownshirts, Antifa and BLM manage to kick off a full scale insurrection...as opposed to the democrat blue city insurrections, you'll find police and military taking them down. If they try to take their act to the suburbs, they'll be lucky if they don't exit in body bags. Anyone watching, reading or listening to the political propaganda arm of the democrat party, the press, is getting entirely the wrong impression of what most Americans think about these riots and looting.

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Here is a police chief on his stomach, hands behind his back.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/massachusetts-police-chief-lays-down-in-pavement-show-solidarity-protesters

This "was a start but not enough"

Here is a police chief kneeling with a not so "peaceful" crowd
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/06/02/worcester-ma-protests-george -floyd-police-chief-steven-sargent-kneels/

It's not a "small numbers", and it is happening all over this country and others.
"Making nice" is discussion, it's outreach. Is "making nice" a symbolic capitulation to an angry mob? Even those far removed from the riots are watching this. What impression should they get from cops literally kowtowing? What's the message?

posted June 08, 2020 07:02 PM            

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"When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength," Trump replied. "That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak...as being spit on by the rest of the world."

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posted June 08, 2020 07:09 PM            

Since I'm in Ohio, I've received two campaign calls within a week. I took my name off their list, and told them why.

This is the picture being circulated:

posted June 08, 2020 11:53 PM            

"Here is a police chief on his stomach, hands behind his back. http://www.foxnews.com/us/massachusetts-police-chief-lays-down-in-pavement-show-solidarity-protesters

This "was a start but not enough"

Here is a police chief kneeling with a not so "peaceful" crowd http://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/06/02/worcester-ma-protests-george -floyd-police-chief-steven-sargent-kneels/

It's not a "small numbers", and it is happening all over this country and others.
"Making nice" is discussion, it's outreach. Is "making nice" a symbolic capitulation to an angry mob? Even those far removed from the riots are watching this. What impression should they get from cops literally kowtowing? What's the message?"

So, you quote a very small number. There are over 19,000 cities and towns in America...with their own police depts or sheriffs depts. You won't find many police chiefs or sheriffs prostrating themselves in front of BLM or Antifa...or anyone else.

There are 750,000 to 850,000 sworn police officers in the US. Let Black Lives Matter or Antifa tell them they have bow down, kneel or prostate themselves, march with them or do their little chants and see what happens.

posted June 09, 2020 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by shura:
Interesting to watch the protestors vandalize statues commemorating White liberal heroes like Churchill and Gandhi. We all knew it wasn't going to stop at those Confederate monuments, but it sure amped up fast.

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posted June 09, 2020 08:48 AM            

My question is twofold: 1) why are these policemen and soldiers submitting to the mob?
For years they have allowed Antifa to cause havoc, while focusing their efforts on harassing and apprehending "white supremacists." You tell me they secretly know better. Ok. How do you know this? Give me evidence 2) the media is amplifying the submissive police/soldiers/politicians. Now that we have establiahed how amplification can sway public opinion and generate mass level social change, what effect will images of cops on their bellies, hands behind their back have on the public consciousness?

posted June 09, 2020 03:24 PM            

Yeah, see: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/004780.html

"My question is twofold: 1) why are these policemen and soldiers submitting to the mob?
For years they have allowed Antifa to cause havoc, while focusing their efforts on harassing and apprehending "white supremacists." You tell me they secretly know better. Ok. How do you know this? Give me evidence 2) the media is amplifying the submissive police/soldiers/politicians. Now that we have establiahed how amplification can sway public opinion and generate mass level social change, what effect will images of cops on their bellies, hands behind their back have on the public consciousness? "

Well, they do know better. Almost every police dept has an intelligence squad which briefs them on trends among radical groups...not to mention liaisons with FBI which has files on most of those groups. Including inside informants/undercover FBI agents.

As for being swayed by public pressure, peer pressure or institutional pressure, some people are weak willed, have no personal convictions and take the line of least resistance. People like that have been around forever and will be into the future. But, among the people in police authority, people who count, they're a small fraction.

"Worth noting: the governor of Texas ... Texas! ... has said the Floyd murder was the worst personal tragedy he had ever seen. A man who watched the Twin Towers fall and Waco burn said that. Submission amplification repub style."

A senseless death is almost always a personal tragedy...for family and friends. I doubt Abbot was saying it was a personal tragedy for him. Don't jump to conclusions about Abbot laying down for the mob.
The Abbot administration just turned back the harebrained scheme for universal mail in voting in Texas...in the Circuit Court of Appeals.

Stalin:
The death of one person is a tragedy.
The death of thousands is a statistic.

Now, why are you trying to convince me that it's all over for America, that sanity and reason have lost?

Get back to me on November 4th...if, thugs from BLM and Antifa, sway enough weak willed Americans to vote in Biden and enough democrat Senators to take the US Senate.

What you're seeing right now is not democrat strength, not America being swayed by lunacy. You're seeing democrat desperation because all their other schemes to take down America First Trump went up in smoke.

posted June 09, 2020 07:42 PM            

This is Portland police chief Jami Resch. A white women, she filed her resignation to appease several Black activist groups who complained about her "all white command staff."

She asked that Lt Chuck Lovell, a black man, replace her.

posted June 09, 2020 07:57 PM            

FBI, Police departments, whatever can be given information on extremist insurrectionists all day, it doesn't preclude the possibility that some will sympathize with those extremist insurrectionists. We are just beginning to see a generation steeped in anti capitalist and anti white propaganda take positions of power. From school boards to police chiefs, town councils to National Guard leaders they are socialist friendly and they are embedded.