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Belage
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posted September 01, 2020 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so glad I put on my thinking cap and went investigate for myself. I didn't take the word of the Fake media that this was a far right group. And this is what I found: A statement by the founder itself:

https://www.facebook.com/100013660111371/videos/314989532299715

How can the media call this person a far-right hate group founder? What is happening to our country and to our collective soul that this person can be labeled a far-right group????

Something very sinister is at play.

I believe in a Higher Power. Trump will win in November. This unholy cabal will not be successful.

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Dhyana
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posted September 02, 2020 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what's more egregious is the fake news media blaming the right for the riots.

Aside from this, was it a good idea for members of Patriot Prayer to go to Portland? I mean on the level of ideals and principles, they had the right to be there. But the reality is the people rioting in Portland and elsewhere are violent extremists who can't be reasoned with, who hate the President and his supporters and desire to do them harm. As we have seen on social media, thanks to the brave, independent journalists on the ground, the rioters have no qualms about maiming and killing their perceived enemies.

So, to go to Portland to make a stand, the reality is that you are going to be assaulted or even killed.

It's one thing for an enlightened being to enter the lion's den, so to speak. Their state of being precludes their being harmed. Moreover, their mere presence changes the consciousness of those around them. But ordinary people, even with the best of intentions, do not have that level of consciousness to protect them from harm. Aaron "Jay" Danielson's death was an unnecessary tragedy.

Given that the country is turning against the rioters and the Democrats are losing the middle, I agree with people who are saying that it's extremely important for MAGA to maintain a disciplined restraint and to refrain from retaliating with violence. It's only two months until election day.

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teasel
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posted September 02, 2020 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Prayer


"In the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]

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Belage
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posted September 02, 2020 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Prayer


"In the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]


I love it how you quote the authority on politics, wikipedia.

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Belage
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posted September 02, 2020 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dhyana:
I think what's more egregious is the fake news media blaming the right for the riots.

Aside from this, was it a good idea for members of Patriot Prayer to go to Portland? I mean on the level of ideals and principles, they had the right to be there. But the reality is the people rioting in Portland and elsewhere are violent extremists who can't be reasoned with, who hate the President and his supporters and desire to do them harm. As we have seen on social media, thanks to the brave, independent journalists on the ground, the rioters have no qualms about maiming and killing their perceived enemies.

So, to go to Portland to make a stand, the reality is that you are going to be assaulted or even killed.

It's one thing for an enlightened being to enter the lion's den, so to speak. Their state of being precludes their being harmed. Moreover, their mere presence changes the consciousness of those around them. But ordinary people, even with the best of intentions, do not have that level of consciousness to protect them from harm. Aaron "Jay" Danielson's death was an unnecessary tragedy.

Given that the country is turning against the rioters and the Democrats are losing the middle, I agree with people who are saying that it's extremely important for MAGA to maintain a disciplined restraint and to refrain from retaliating with violence. It's only two months until election day.



I get your point.

My point is that, this media will label anyone, and I mean ANYONE who supports Trump as far-right. And they will justify any harm done to them.

All they have to do is label a group "far right" to delegitimize it, to silence it, to ostracize it. Even when it is not far-right. They will do so because any dissent, any deviation from the current woke party line will not be tolerated.

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Belage
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posted September 02, 2020 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The founder of Patriot Prayer is not a man who advocates violence and hatred. He is a man of faith, and fine, no one has to agree with his faith, but it is unfair to label him as far right, He has said nothing, absolutely nothing that would qualify as hate speech.

https://youtu.be/GSmiQRsuPpk

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Randall
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posted September 02, 2020 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don’t believe in free speech for people you dislike, you don’t believe in free speech.

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Dhyana
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posted September 03, 2020 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:

My point is that, this media will label anyone, and I mean ANYONE who supports Trump as far-right. And they will justify any harm done to them.

All they have to do is label a group "far right" to delegitimize it, to silence it, to ostracize it...


I think this second post makes your point clear.

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Something very sinister is at play.

Care to elaborate? What do you think it is?

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