posted November 10, 2020 02:17 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
SUPER Important Topic!

Needs to be discussed without politicizing the issue of health

HERE'S A CORONAVIRUS IMMUNITY NEWS FLASH:

by Dr Leonard Horowitz, Virologist, Scientist, author of numerous books on HIV & the subject of Viruses...plus a lifelong Republican & firm supporter of Trump (in case anyone is interested)

'Pfizer/BioNTech (ModernaRNA) COVID-19 vaccine Phase 3 Trial is being reported "90% effective" after less than 6-months evaluation of a 2-dose regimen in EXCLUSIVELY "healthy" subjects.

This means that if you suffer from any of the following risks or illnesses we highly recommend for safety-sake that you forego taking this vaccine.

QUOTING FROM THE STUDY DESIGN,

(146 page pdf download)

https://drlenhorowitz.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=dac6b36582faa47d3a35390fb&id=d5f604baa3&e=648d117315

DO NOT CONSIDER PFIZER/BioNTech's COVID-19 VACCINE SAFE IF YOU HAVE:

- HIV-human immunodeficiency virus-AIDS;
Hepatitis C virus (HCV), or hepatitis B virus (HBV);
- Hypertension;
- Diabetes mellitus;
- Chronic pulmonary disease;
- Asthma [hay fever and allergies];
- Current vaping or smoking behavior;
- History of chronic smoking within the prior year;
- Chronic liver disease;
- Psoriasis;
- Autoimmune diseases or thyroiditis;
- Giant cell arteritis (temporal arteritis) syndrome;
- Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura  syndrome;
- Multiple sclerosis;
- Sjögren’s Barré -cutaneous lupus erythematosus;
- Autoimmune arthritis/rheumatoid arthritis; and
- Guillain disease requiring therapeutic intervention.
- Stage 3 or worse chronic kidney disease;
- Residence in a long-term care facility;
- Immunosuppressive disorders being treated;
- History of severe adverse reactions associated with a vaccine and/or severe allergic reactions [in general];
- Received medications intended to prevent COVID-19;
- A developing fetus or are breastfeeding."

THIS WARNING IS FROM PFIZER'S OWN STUDY DESIGN

So JWHOP, unless you're 100% certain that you're 100% healthy, with ZERO underlying co-morbidities (known or unknown), I wldn't be going for the Vax

And if you're *that* healthy, you wldn't need a vax anyway, bc your own immune system wld do the job of beating the illness which has a 99% survival rate (per CDC)

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That'll be everyone who is actually vulnerable to serious disease from the virus due to underlying health problems, excluded then. And probably a substantial portion of the elderly.

posted November 10, 2020 02:52 PM            

Today, the Flu Vaccine is said to be just 40%
effective.

South Korea has already reported 25+ dead from Flu Vaccine reactions, this is in 2020.
This after so many iterations and trials.

I am not blaming the Scientists as they do not have the ultimate clearance for the final concoction from Big Pharma, who will not be subject to any Law Suit should things go south.

posted November 10, 2020 02:56 PM            

So this 6 month tested vaccine to be imposed by both sides of the political spectrum is 90% effective on 70% of the Population Approximately. That is just 63% Efficiency on a Mutating Virus.

This is ridiculous.

Vitamin C, Zinc, Vitamin D, Herbacetin and Oxygenation are 99% effective.

We must all study Bechamp's theory of Strengthening the "Terrain", our body.

“Germs seek their natural habitat – diseased tissue – rather than being the cause of diseased tissue.” - Antoine Béchamp

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Astrology Articles

posted November 10, 2020 03:20 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
YEs, good guess.

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posted November 11, 2020 01:11 AM            

I do believe a Trump administration will not force me to be vaccinated.
While I do believe a Biden administration will enact forced vaccination.

posted November 11, 2020 03:41 AM            

I take Vitamin D daily for the last five years and can't remember the last time I got sick. Not even the common cold (except a season of hay fever in 2016, because of Birch and grass pollen acclimation during my first year moving to a new continent).

posted November 11, 2020 11:04 AM            

- HIV-human immunodeficiency virus-AIDS;
Hepatitis C virus (HCV), or hepatitis B virus (HBV);
- Hypertension;
- Diabetes mellitus;
- Chronic pulmonary disease;
- Asthma [hay fever and allergies];
- Current vaping or smoking behavior;
- History of chronic smoking within the prior year;
- Chronic liver disease;
- Psoriasis;
- Autoimmune diseases or thyroiditis;
- Giant cell arteritis (temporal arteritis) syndrome;
- Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura syndrome;
- Multiple sclerosis;
- Sjögren’s Barré -cutaneous lupus erythematosus;
- Autoimmune arthritis/rheumatoid arthritis; and
- Guillain disease requiring therapeutic intervention.
- Stage 3 or worse chronic kidney disease;
- Residence in a long-term care facility;
- Immunosuppressive disorders being treated;
- History of severe adverse reactions associated with a vaccine and/or severe allergic reactions [in general];
- Received medications intended to prevent COVID-19;
- A developing fetus or are breastfeeding.""

Yeah, also:

Hangnail
Toenail fungus
Dandruff
Moles
Freckles
Skin tags
Callouses
Pink Eye
Astigmatism
Amblyopia
Anisometropia
Hyperopia
Insomnia
Snoring
Tinnitus
Earwax

posted November 11, 2020 12:01 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by vansio:
I personally won't take the vaccine, find it unnecessary, and also, do not believe it will be forced on anyone.

I take Vitamin D daily for the last five years and can't remember the last time I got sick. Not even the common cold (except a season of hay fever in 2016, because of Birch and grass pollen acclimation during my first year moving to a new continent).

My morning cocktail: Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Multi-mineral, Omega-3, Cordyceps (catepillar fungus), Green Tea

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I need to be consistent with my own supplements. I keep forgetting to take a bit of raw honey every day, too. I have all of this stuff in the house, but I’m just not consistent with it.

posted November 11, 2020 12:23 PM            

What is the point of doing that? Testing healthy subjects is meaningless bc it is NOT reflective of what's going to happen in the general population bc 80 - 85% of the US population is UNhealthy...thanks to junk food, sugar & opioid addiction, plus GMO/pesticide laden foods, and EMF radition which ever way you look.

<<<<A vaccine is not a 'cure' for disease.
Vaccines are a preventative against disease.>>>>

You are astoundingly incorrect!

Seems like you haven't been keeping up. I just made a post abt this on a private group page -

👺 COVID-19 VAKSINES DESIGNED *ONLY* FOR MILD CASES!

👉THE TYPE THAT 90% OF POPULATION GETS & HEALS FROM, WITHOUT MEDICAL INTERVENTION!

👉"FDA REPORT: COVID-19 VACCINES *NOT* DESIGNED TO TELL US IF THEY SAVE LIVES"

"In a marathon session, an FDA committee learned the truth about the upcoming COVID-19 vaccines: They are only designed to address mild cases of the coronavirus.

That means they may not prevent the worst cases, including those leading to death. "We could have a vaccine that seems to do well ... and it's effective in avoiding mild cases, but ACTUALLY DOES VERY LITTLE TO ADDRESS WHAT WE REALLY CARE ABOUT, WHICH IS SERIOUS DISEASE AND DEATH," said Shelden Toubman, a consumer representative lawyer on the committee.

WHAT THIS AMOUNTS TO IS THAT THE WORLD IS BETTING THE FARM ON VACCINES TO STOP THE PANDEMIC'S DEATH TOLL— BUT THE VACCINES ARE NOT DESIGNED TO DO WHAT THEY WORLD EXPECTS, SAID PETER DOSHI, an associate professor at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy, in a commentary in The BMJ.

“None of the trials currently under way are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospital admissions, use of intensive care, or deaths. Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus,” Doshi said.

SOURCES:

1) Law360 October 23, 2020
"FDA Advisers Fear Coronavirus Vaccines Won't Help Enough"

"The nearly nine-hour meeting of the FDA's vaccines advisory committee — an 18-member panel of independent experts who offer nonbinding input..."

https://www.law360.com/health/articles/1322025/fda-advisers-fear-coronavirus-vaccines-won-t-help-enough?

2) The BMJ October 21, 2020
"Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us"

"The world has bet the farm on vaccines as the solution to the pandemic, but the trials are not focused on answering the questions many might assume they are. Peter Doshi reports"

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037?

<<<<Btw, no one is twisting your arm..mandating that you take the vaccine.>>>>

Nice attempt at deflecting. I was responding to your whining reply to iQ, abt denying americans a "90% effective" vax 👇

<<<<Way to go leftists.
You would deny the 90% effective vaccine and sacrifice American lives!
Thanks for letting us know where you leftists are really coming from!>>>>

A 90% effective vax for MILD infection only! Billions of tax money given to these companies, after a worldwide lockdown, economies destroyed...and this is all they cld come up with...

There's more along the same lines...

👉TOP UK SCIENTISTS WARN ‘MANY, OR ALL’ COVID-19 VACCINE PROJECTS COULD FAIL, FIRST GENERATION VACCINE ‘LIKELY TO BE IMPERFECT’

If you’re expecting a COVID-19 vaccine that will solve all the pandemic problems, think again: There may never be a working vaccine, or if there is one, it’s likely to be imperfect, according to a British chairperson of the vaccine taskforce.

KATE BINGHAM (the UK equivalent of the US Anthony Fauci), WHO SERVES ON THE BOARDS OF VARIOUS INVESTMENT COMPANIES, & IS ALSO THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE BRITISH VAKSINE TASKFORCE, wrote in a letter to The Lancet that “WE DO NOT KNOW THAT WE WILL EVER HAVE A VACCINE AT ALL. IT IS IMPORTANT TO GUARD AGAINST COMPLACENCY AND OVER-OPTIMISM. The first generation of vaccines is likely to be imperfect, and WE SHOULD BE PREPARED THAT THEY MIGHT NOT PREVENT INFECTION BUT RATHER REDUCE SYMPTOMS, AND, EVEN THEN, MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE OR FOR LONG.

Her dire warnings are clearly an effort to temper people’s expectations as a growing body of research shows that COVID-19 immunity is more complicated than many would suspect. Other challenges include the unique cold storage requirements of this particular vaccine, plus the fact that no one has ever done mass vaccination of adults anywhere in the world before.
👇
"The UK Government's Vaccine Taskforce: strategy for protecting the UK and the world"

Source:

The Lancet October 27, 2020

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32175-9/fulltext

<<<<My emotional state is influenced by calm, logical, rational Virgo...in Mercury. Your arguments..and other's arguments are ripped to shreds by logic and rationality...>>>>

Hahahahahaha!!! That's a joke, right??
Bc 95% of the time you sound like a banshee shrieking your disgust at those who disagree with you, ie the democrats.

<<<<even if they do have a forcefully expression from Mars..in Aries, Sun in Leo, Scorpio Rising and a thirst for truth and justice from my Moon in Leo.
To the point.
I despise lying, deception, cheating and unfairness for partisan political purposes. Those who try to make a living here...and elsewhere from what they consider the aforementioned 'democrat virtues' are going to get an earful.>>>>

Here you sound like a narcissistic control freak who is trying to mask his lack of empathy (a classic narcissistic trait) in self righteous word salad.

Obviously you see yourself very differently than others see you.

<<<<Change your ways or learn to live with it.>>>>

Lol! Oh look, all of LL is shaking in their boots.

posted November 11, 2020 12:26 PM            

Eric Francis Coppolino who is a journalist by trade and pretty far from a conspiracy theorist speaks a bit about it here in his video about the great conjunction: http://youtu.be/I-nLIBy7_9Q

One of the questionmarks is the fact that results of case-testing is highly questionable - test-results that amp up the fear exponentially:

Smoking gun: Fauci states COVID test has fatal flaw; confession from the “beloved” expert of experts | Added November 6

The COVID delusion is finished, blown apart

By Jon Rappoport

OK, here we go. Smoking gun. Jackpot.

Right from the horse’s mouth. Right from the man we’re told is the number-one COVID expert in the nation. What Fauci says is golden truth.

Well, how about THIS?

July 16, 2020, podcast, “This week in virology”: Tony Fauci makes a point of saying the PCR COVID test is useless and misleading when the test is run at “35 cycles or higher.” A positive result, indicating infection, cannot be accepted or believed.

Here, in techno-speak, is an excerpt from Fauci’s key quote (starting at about the 4-minute mark): “…If you get [perform the test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more…the chances of it being replication- confident [aka accurate] are miniscule…you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle…even 36…”

Each “cycle” of the test is a quantum leap in amplification and magnification of the test specimen taken from the patient.

Too many cycles, and the test will turn up all sorts of irrelevant material that will be wrongly interpreted as relevant.

That’s called a false positive.

What Fauci failed to say on the video is: the FDA, which authorizes the test for public use, recommends the test should be run up to 40 cycles. Not 35.

Therefore, all labs in the US that follow the FDA guideline are knowingly or unknowingly participating in fraud. Fraud on a monstrous level, because…

Millions of Americans are being told they are infected with the virus on the basis of a false positive result, and…

The total number of COVID cases in America—which is based on the test—is a gross falsity.

The lockdowns and other restraining measures are based on these fraudulent case numbers.

Let me back up and run that by you again. Fauci says the test is useless when it’s run at 35 cycles or higher. The FDA says run the test up to 40 cycles, in order to determine whether the virus is there. This is the crime in a nutshell.

If anyone in the White House has a few brain cells to rub together, pick up a giant bullhorn and start revealing the truth to the American people.

“Hello, America, you’ve been tricked, lied to, conned, and taken for a devastating ride. On the basis of fake science, the country was locked down.”

If anyone in the Congress has a few brain cells operating, pull Fauci into a televised hearing and, in ten minutes, make mincemeat out of the fake science that has driven this whole foul, stench-ridden assault on the US economy and its citizens.

All right, here are two chunks of evidence for what I’ve written above. First, we have a CDC quote on the FDA website, in a document titled: “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel For Emergency Use Only.” See page 35. This document is marked, “Effective: 07/13/20.” That means, even though the virus is being referred to by its older name, the document is still relevant as of July 2020. “For Emergency Use Only” refers to the fact that the FDA has certified the PCR test under a traditional category called “Emergency Use Authorization.”

FDA: “…a specimen is considered positive for 2019-nCoV [virus] if all 2019-nCoV marker (N1, N2) cycle threshold growth curves cross the threshold line within 40.00 cycles (< 40.00 Ct).”

Naturally, MANY testing labs reading this guideline would conclude, “Well, to see if the virus is there in a patient, we should run the test all the way to 40 cycles. That’s the official advice.”

Then we have a New York Times article (August 29/updated September 17) headlined: “Your coronavirus test is positive. Maybe it shouldn’t be.” Here are money quotes:

“Most tests set the limit at 40 [cycles]. A few at 37.” “Set the limit” would usually mean, “We’re going to look all the way to 40 cycles, to see if the virus is there.”

The Times: “This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients.” Boom. That’s the capper, the grand finale. Labs don’t or won’t reveal their collusion in this crime.

Get the picture?

I hope so.

If a lawyer won’t go to court with all this, or if a judge won’t pay attention and see the light, they should be stripped of their jobs and sent to the Arctic to sell snow.

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posted November 11, 2020 12:53 PM            

You are astoundingly incorrect!

Seems like you haven't been keeping up. I just made a post abt this on a private group page"

Thanks for outing yourself as a 'Know Nothing'.

Vaccines are developed TO PREVENT DISEASE, not cure disease once it's contracted.

How Vaccines Can Prevent Serious
Diseases
http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/features/preventative-health-vaccines#1

Vaccines and Preventable Diseases Home | CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/index.html

Why Are Childhood Vaccines So Important? | CDC http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/howvpd.htm

"May 16, 2018 · It is always better to prevent a disease than to treat it after it occurs"

Pfizer and BioNTech Announce Vaccine Candidate Against ... http://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press...

2 days ago · The study also will evaluate the potential for the vaccine candidate to provide protection against COVID-19 in those who have had prior exposure to SARS-CoV-2, as well as vaccine prevention against severe COVID-19 disease.

Preventive measures for infectious diseases http://www.ecdc.europa.eu/.../prevention-diseases

Preventive measures for infectious diseases. Vaccination to prevent disease is commonplace in Europe today.

Now, keep arguing against doctors and scientists in the medical field.

posted November 11, 2020 12:58 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
@ JWHOP
<<<<Of course vaccines are tested on 'healthy subjects'.>>>>

What is the point of doing that? Testing healthy subjects is meaningless bc it is NOT reflective of what's going to happen in the general population bc 80 - 85% of the US population is UNhealthy...thanks to junk food, sugar & opioid addiction, plus GMO/pesticide laden foods, and EMF radition which ever way you look.

<<<<A vaccine is not a 'cure' for disease.
Vaccines are a preventative against disease.>>>>

You are astoundingly incorrect!

Seems like you haven't been keeping up. I just made a post abt this on a private group page -

👺 COVID-19 VAKSINES DESIGNED *ONLY* FOR MILD CASES!

👉THE TYPE THAT 90% OF POPULATION GETS & HEALS FROM, WITHOUT MEDICAL INTERVENTION!

👉"FDA REPORT: COVID-19 VACCINES *NOT* DESIGNED TO TELL US IF THEY SAVE LIVES"

"In a marathon session, an FDA committee learned the truth about the upcoming COVID-19 vaccines: They are only designed to address mild cases of the coronavirus.

That means they may not prevent the worst cases, including those leading to death. "We could have a vaccine that seems to do well ... and it's effective in avoiding mild cases, but ACTUALLY DOES VERY LITTLE TO ADDRESS WHAT WE REALLY CARE ABOUT, WHICH IS SERIOUS DISEASE AND DEATH," said Shelden Toubman, a consumer representative lawyer on the committee.

WHAT THIS AMOUNTS TO IS THAT THE WORLD IS BETTING THE FARM ON VACCINES TO STOP THE PANDEMIC'S DEATH TOLL— BUT THE VACCINES ARE NOT DESIGNED TO DO WHAT THEY WORLD EXPECTS, SAID PETER DOSHI, an associate professor at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy, in a commentary in The BMJ.

“None of the trials currently under way are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospital admissions, use of intensive care, or deaths. Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus,” Doshi said.

SOURCES:

1) Law360 October 23, 2020
"FDA Advisers Fear Coronavirus Vaccines Won't Help Enough"

"The nearly nine-hour meeting of the FDA's vaccines advisory committee — an 18-member panel of independent experts who offer nonbinding input..."

https://www.law360.com/health/articles/1322025/fda-advisers-fear-coronavirus-vaccines-won-t-help-enough?

2) The BMJ October 21, 2020
"Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us"

"The world has bet the farm on vaccines as the solution to the pandemic, but the trials are not focused on answering the questions many might assume they are. Peter Doshi reports"

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037?

<<<<Btw, no one is twisting your arm..mandating that you take the vaccine.>>>>

Nice attempt at deflecting. I was responding to your whining reply to iQ, abt denying americans a "90% effective" vax 👇

<<<<Way to go leftists.
You would deny the 90% effective vaccine and sacrifice American lives!
Thanks for letting us know where you leftists are really coming from!>>>>

A 90% effective vax for MILD infection only! Billions of tax money given to these companies, after a worldwide lockdown, economies destroyed...and this is all they cld come up with...

There's more along the same lines...

👉TOP UK SCIENTISTS WARN ‘MANY, OR ALL’ COVID-19 VACCINE PROJECTS COULD FAIL, FIRST GENERATION VACCINE ‘LIKELY TO BE IMPERFECT’

If you’re expecting a COVID-19 vaccine that will solve all the pandemic problems, think again: There may never be a working vaccine, or if there is one, it’s likely to be imperfect, according to a British chairperson of the vaccine taskforce.

KATE BINGHAM (the UK equivalent of the US Anthony Fauci), WHO SERVES ON THE BOARDS OF VARIOUS INVESTMENT COMPANIES, & IS ALSO THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE BRITISH VAKSINE TASKFORCE, wrote in a letter to The Lancet that “WE DO NOT KNOW THAT WE WILL EVER HAVE A VACCINE AT ALL. IT IS IMPORTANT TO GUARD AGAINST COMPLACENCY AND OVER-OPTIMISM. The first generation of vaccines is likely to be imperfect, and WE SHOULD BE PREPARED THAT THEY MIGHT NOT PREVENT INFECTION BUT RATHER REDUCE SYMPTOMS, AND, EVEN THEN, MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE OR FOR LONG.

Her dire warnings are clearly an effort to temper people’s expectations as a growing body of research shows that COVID-19 immunity is more complicated than many would suspect. Other challenges include the unique cold storage requirements of this particular vaccine, plus the fact that no one has ever done mass vaccination of adults anywhere in the world before.
👇
"The UK Government's Vaccine Taskforce: strategy for protecting the UK and the world"

Source:

The Lancet October 27, 2020

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32175-9/fulltext

<<<<My emotional state is influenced by calm, logical, rational Virgo...in Mercury. Your arguments..and other's arguments are ripped to shreds by logic and rationality...>>>>

Hahahahahaha!!! That's a joke, right??
Bc 95% of the time you sound like a banshee shrieking your disgust at those who disagree with you, ie the democrats.

<<<<even if they do have a forcefully expression from Mars..in Aries, Sun in Leo, Scorpio Rising and a thirst for truth and justice from my Moon in Leo.
To the point.
I despise lying, deception, cheating and unfairness for partisan political purposes. Those who try to make a living here...and elsewhere from what they consider the aforementioned 'democrat virtues' are going to get an earful.>>>>

Here you sound like a narcissistic control freak who is trying to mask his lack of empathy (a classic narcissistic trait) in self righteous word salad.

Obviously you see yourself very differently than others see you.

<<<<Change your ways or learn to live with it.>>>>

Lol! Oh look, all of LL is shaking in their boots.

Time to get over yourself or be left behind...humans are evolving rapidly, you know, yet you're stuck exactly where you were several years ago when I last visited this forum. Sad!

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posted November 11, 2020 12:59 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
I would agree with iQ and this is a highly complex situation that many don't bother to even investigate - I would advise all to sit back and await further developments as there are way too many questionmarks that need to be answered.

Eric Francis Coppolino who is a journalist by trade and pretty far from a conspiracy theorist speaks a bit about it here in his video about the great conjunction: http://youtu.be/I-nLIBy7_9Q

One of the questionmarks is the fact that results of case-testing is highly questionable - test-results that amp up the fear exponentially:

[b]Smoking gun: Fauci states COVID test has fatal flaw; confession from the “beloved” expert of experts | Added November 6

The COVID delusion is finished, blown apart

By Jon Rappoport

OK, here we go. Smoking gun. Jackpot.

Right from the horse’s mouth. Right from the man we’re told is the number-one COVID expert in the nation. What Fauci says is golden truth.

Well, how about THIS?

July 16, 2020, podcast, “This week in virology”: Tony Fauci makes a point of saying the PCR COVID test is useless and misleading when the test is run at “35 cycles or higher.” A positive result, indicating infection, cannot be accepted or believed.

Here, in techno-speak, is an excerpt from Fauci’s key quote (starting at about the 4-minute mark): “…If you get [perform the test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more…the chances of it being replication- confident [aka accurate] are miniscule…you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle…even 36…”

Each “cycle” of the test is a quantum leap in amplification and magnification of the test specimen taken from the patient.

Too many cycles, and the test will turn up all sorts of irrelevant material that will be wrongly interpreted as relevant.

That’s called a false positive.

What Fauci failed to say on the video is: the FDA, which authorizes the test for public use, recommends the test should be run up to 40 cycles. Not 35.

Therefore, all labs in the US that follow the FDA guideline are knowingly or unknowingly participating in fraud. Fraud on a monstrous level, because…

Millions of Americans are being told they are infected with the virus on the basis of a false positive result, and…

The total number of COVID cases in America—which is based on the test—is a gross falsity.

The lockdowns and other restraining measures are based on these fraudulent case numbers.

Let me back up and run that by you again. Fauci says the test is useless when it’s run at 35 cycles or higher. The FDA says run the test up to 40 cycles, in order to determine whether the virus is there. This is the crime in a nutshell.

If anyone in the White House has a few brain cells to rub together, pick up a giant bullhorn and start revealing the truth to the American people.

“Hello, America, you’ve been tricked, lied to, conned, and taken for a devastating ride. On the basis of fake science, the country was locked down.”

If anyone in the Congress has a few brain cells operating, pull Fauci into a televised hearing and, in ten minutes, make mincemeat out of the fake science that has driven this whole foul, stench-ridden assault on the US economy and its citizens.

All right, here are two chunks of evidence for what I’ve written above. First, we have a CDC quote on the FDA website, in a document titled: “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel For Emergency Use Only.” See page 35. This document is marked, “Effective: 07/13/20.” That means, even though the virus is being referred to by its older name, the document is still relevant as of July 2020. “For Emergency Use Only” refers to the fact that the FDA has certified the PCR test under a traditional category called “Emergency Use Authorization.”

FDA: “…a specimen is considered positive for 2019-nCoV [virus] if all 2019-nCoV marker (N1, N2) cycle threshold growth curves cross the threshold line within 40.00 cycles (< 40.00 Ct).”

Naturally, MANY testing labs reading this guideline would conclude, “Well, to see if the virus is there in a patient, we should run the test all the way to 40 cycles. That’s the official advice.”

Then we have a New York Times article (August 29/updated September 17) headlined: “Your coronavirus test is positive. Maybe it shouldn’t be.” Here are money quotes:

“Most tests set the limit at 40 [cycles]. A few at 37.” “Set the limit” would usually mean, “We’re going to look all the way to 40 cycles, to see if the virus is there.”

The Times: “This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients.” Boom. That’s the capper, the grand finale. Labs don’t or won’t reveal their collusion in this crime.

Get the picture?

I hope so.

If a lawyer won’t go to court with all this, or if a judge won’t pay attention and see the light, they should be stripped of their jobs and sent to the Arctic to sell snow.

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from http://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/11/06/smoking-gun-fauci-states-covid-test-has -fatal-flaw/ [/B]

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Thank you nomad-monad for posting this supporting information for those here who have said the PRC test throws too many 'false positives'.

posted November 11, 2020 06:31 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
I have spoken to friends and family with positive results when they showed symptoms and are now negative after their natural immunity kicked in. I am not sure if it was confirmed by PCR test. Some of their neighbors were not lucky and succumbed to the disease.
In a family of 4, the dad died in 2 weeks but the rest survived.

Please don't spread lies. Spread personal testimonials. There is something mysterious in the air.

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Leave off with the anecdotal chatter.

posted November 11, 2020 06:45 PM              

quote:

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I personally won't take the vaccine, find it unnecessary, and also, do not believe it will be forced on anyone.

I take Vitamin D daily for the last five years and can't remember the last time I got sick. Not even the common cold (except a season of hay fever in 2016, because of Birch and grass pollen acclimation during my first year moving to a new continent).

My morning cocktail: Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Multi-mineral, Omega-3, Cordyceps (catepillar fungus), Green Tea

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The above combined with Delphi having been my favorite place that I have ever visited (so far), well I think I'm a bit in love... (this is what happens when Saturn the faster moving ruler of one's Venus and DESC is in Virgo and conjunct Libra Moon).

(ok, mostly have left, need to do it fully, where's that Crappacorn discipline when you need it?)

posted November 11, 2020 07:50 PM            

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Anecdotal evidence is not definitive.
Scientific evidence is definitive...in most cases.

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Which part I said wasn't scientific?

The dad may have had an underlying condition that was exacerbated by the virus.

posted November 11, 2020 07:52 PM            

Trump never said a vaccine would cure covid 19. Vaccines are a preventative from catching the disease the vaccine is designed to protect against.

But yes, it would be great to have a preventative to stop the spread of coronavirus to anyone who takes the vaccine.

posted November 11, 2020 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Randall, you'll be interested in this slander on your sign!

[b]Crappacorn[/B]

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posted November 11, 2020 10:12 PM              

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Originally posted by teasel:
Galactic is a Capricorn. He wasn’t slandering anyone.

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Yep, I'm a card carrying Sun and Mercury in same. I first heard the term "Crappaorn" from Bob Monroe's step daughter Penny, who was one of my trainers at the Gateway Voyage Program. She's a bit of comedian, and a fellow Cap Sun, and made the reference in a joking manner during the program. I thought it was kind of funny and have borrowed a bit here and there.

And like Randall, I also have Venus in Aquaman (say that 5 times really fast).

Alright, going for realz.

posted November 12, 2020 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"So, I guess all the vaccine can do then is perhaps reduce the spread from healthy people to unhealthy people. Not quite the panacea that was promised!"

Trump never said a vaccine would cure covid 19. Vaccines are a preventative from catching the disease the vaccine is designed to protect against.

But yes, it would be great to have a preventative to stop the spread of coronavirus to anyone who takes the vaccine.

So, you have a problem with that?

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I know what a vaccine is for
Who cares what Trump said? I am in Scotland where America does not rule the world.

It's been suggested that the vaccine would be made available to those who met the criteria for shielding, people who are most vulnerable to serious disease and complications... except, that's all the people that are being excluded from the vaccine according to the aforementioned study.

posted November 12, 2020 03:18 PM            

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[QUOTE][/B]Originally posted by jwhop:
"<<<<A vaccine is not a 'cure' for disease.
Vaccines are a preventative against disease.>>>>

You are astoundingly incorrect!

Seems like you haven't been keeping up. I just made a post abt this on a private group page"

Thanks for outing yourself as a 'Know Nothing'.

Vaccines are developed [b]TO PREVENT DISEASE, not cure disease once it's contracted.

How Vaccines Can Prevent Serious
Diseases
http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/features/preventative-health-vaccines#1

Vaccines and Preventable Diseases Home | CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/index.html

Why Are Childhood Vaccines So Important? | CDC http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/howvpd.htm

"May 16, 2018 · It is always better to prevent a disease than to treat it after it occurs"

Pfizer and BioNTech Announce Vaccine Candidate Against ... http://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press...

2 days ago · The study also will evaluate the potential for the vaccine candidate to provide protection against COVID-19 in those who have had prior exposure to SARS-CoV-2, as well as vaccine prevention against severe COVID-19 disease.

Preventive measures for infectious diseases http://www.ecdc.europa.eu/.../prevention-diseases

Preventive measures for infectious diseases. Vaccination to prevent disease is commonplace in Europe today.

Now, keep arguing against doctors and scientists in the medical field.

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<<<<Vaccines are developed TO PREVENT DISEASE, not cure disease once it's contracted.>>>>

Give it up JWHOP, you're getting old bc you're unable to read & perhaps even understand what i posted.

I specifically wrote abt the covid vax bc that's what this thread is abt.

And I said, with EVIDENCE from an FDA MARATHON (9 hour) SESSION BETWEEN SCIENTISTS & EXPERTS that their conclusion is that this covid vax is NOT designed to PREVENT serious covid illness, nor PREVENT death from this illness

I also presented EVIDENCE from a science journal, THE LANCET, in which the UK head of covid task force, warned people that this vax may not work AT ALL. This means that it may NOT DO WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO, ie, PREVENT serious illness, which is what the world is concerned abt. 🙄

No where in my post did i say that the vax wld "cure disease once it's contracted."
🙄

The rest of your post is gibberish to me bc you're lumping all vax in one category & they cannot be. Many have harmful effects, smth that is never highlighted in mainstram media, which is under the monoply control of 6 corporations.

You also need to be aware of the Vax Injury Act that was signed into law by Ronald Reagen in 1986, that gives all vax companies COMPLETE IMMUNITY from ALL LIABILITY if anyone is INJURED by a vax.

Why wld anyone in the world want to trust the product of any company that is not held liable if the product injures someone?

Why wld any company (in the US or elsewhere) have ANY INCENTIVE to make a SAFE PRODUCT when they're allowed to go scot free from liability & still collect their billions?

Why would anyone want to believe the vax "SUCCESS" announcement from a company (Pfizer), when immediately aftr making the announcement, its stock jumped & its CEO raked in $5.6 MILLION through SELLING his personal stock in the company? Why is he so quick to sell the stock? Try & connect the dots, if you can 🙄

Also, a special court has already been set up by the gov to provide compensation to those injured by the covid vax, which clearly means that they're expecting people to get injured.

Bill gates himself (who owns the Moderna Vax) has said in interviews that (if the whole world is vaxed) 10%, ie 700 million, of the world population will be killed by the covid vax. He considers this colateral damage! For a disease that has ONLY a 1% MORTALITY RATE, he wants to kill 10% of the world population, just so he can make money! Again, try & connect the dots, if you can...but try not to bust a nerve while attempting to connect the dots mentally

You also need to be aware that the CDC lost a LANDMARK case in Nov 2018, in which they failed to show a SINGLE vax SAFETY STUDY IN OVER 30 YEARS, which they were REQUIRED to do, per the 1986 Vax injury law. So much for your belief in the science put out by the CDC, & its concern for public health & safety 🙄

You should also know that the US Supreme Court has already ruled that Vax are "UNAVOIDABLY UNSAFE". It means that NO vax is safe.

Hope you can understand all this. I've written it in the best simple english I wld use to explain things to a child.😜

So before you argue in favor of americans getting a vax, do your research.

<<<<Now, keep arguing against doctors and scientists in the medical field.>>>>

Do your research first before citing weak science references that fall under the category of "scientism" rather than real science

In order to understand if a scientific reference is worthy, you wld need a background in science, which I don't think you do, bc if you did, you wldn't be citing weak references, & touting company announcements without understanding what is behind the announcements.

It would involve my giving you a few science lessons so that you cld understand how these trials have been DESIGNED TO SUCCEED, & I don't have the time to teach you this. The public is being fooled & taken advantage of by these announcements bc of lack of real scientific knowledge, which is being SUPPRESSED THROUGH EXTREME CENSORSHIP ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL AS SCIENTIFIC PUBLICATIONS. FAKE COMPUTERIZED SCIENCE IS BEING GENERATED BY THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY (SOFTWARE). SOME OF THE TOP SCIENCE JOURNALS ARE INVOLVED IN THIS SCAM. One example is NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE, whose HARVARD scientists cld not back up their published results by showing evidence of the published data. NEJM had to retract that paper, but only bc they got caught. There are many more related to the origin of this virus from a bat, that is completely cooked up evidence and refuted by renowned virologists, including a French nobel laureate.

Research every single agency that puts out "scientism" and educate yourself on the intentions & goals of such agencies.

For example, look up how many vax patents the CDC has (including the covid patent) & how much it stands to gain financially from pushing vax on people. The cdc, which has been entrusted with the health of the US public, is in business with the companies, that are selling a ZERO LIABILITY PRODUCT, & stands to make mucho $$ by advocating that people shld get the vax. Ask yourself, is this not CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

That's why it's upto each individual to do their full research before giving ANYONE ANY PERMISSION to inject their bodies with something that will do more harm than good in the long run.

It is upto every individual to decide if they want to be one of the 700 million colateral damage.

It is upto every individual to release the FEAR of this virus, infused in them by the very same "experts" & "authorities", whose dire "models" have been proved wrong already. To do this, it is my STRONG RECOMMENDATION THAT PEOPLE STOP WATCHING TV, bc it's being used as an INFORMATIONAL FEAR WEAPON. The TV is the NUMBER ONE WEAPON OF MASS DECEPTION!

It is up to every person to REALIZE THAT THEY'RE BEING MANIPULATED THROUGH FEAR & THAT THE DARK SIDE IS USING THEIR FEAR AGAINST THEM

FEAR CREATES SLAVES!
75 yrs ago, during the Nuremberg trials, judges asked Hermann Goring (Hitler's right hand) how they made Germany accept all the madness.

He replied, "It's easy. Just tell them they're being attacked and...they will follow their leader! This works in every nation."

THE KEY TO GET PEOPLE TO COMPLY TO ANYTHING IS TO USE FEAR, BECAUSE FEAR TURNS PEOPLE INTO BLIND FOLLOWERS!

PEOPLE NEED TO START ASKING ALL IMPORTANT QUESTIONS LIKE - TO WHAT DO THESE PUBLIC HEALTH "EXPERTS" WANT THEM TO COMPLY? WHAT IS IT THAT THEY WANT OUT OF HUMANITY, THAT THEY CANNOT GET WITHOUT THE USE OF FEAR?

It is up to every person TO RAISE THEIR SPIRITUAL VIBRATION BY GOING PAST THE FEAR VIBRATION INTO THE HIGH VIBRATION OF LOVE, IN ORDER TO SEE THINGS CLEARLY...

posted November 12, 2020 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"DO NOT CONSIDER PFIZER/BioNTech's COVID-19 VACCINE SAFE IF YOU HAVE:

- HIV-human immunodeficiency virus-AIDS;
Hepatitis C virus (HCV), or hepatitis B virus (HBV);
- Hypertension;
- Diabetes mellitus;
- Chronic pulmonary disease;
- Asthma [hay fever and allergies];
- Current vaping or smoking behavior;
- History of chronic smoking within the prior year;
- Chronic liver disease;
- Psoriasis;
- Autoimmune diseases or thyroiditis;
- Giant cell arteritis (temporal arteritis) syndrome;
- Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura syndrome;
- Multiple sclerosis;
- Sjögren’s Barré -cutaneous lupus erythematosus;
- Autoimmune arthritis/rheumatoid arthritis; and
- Guillain disease requiring therapeutic intervention.
- Stage 3 or worse chronic kidney disease;
- Residence in a long-term care facility;
- Immunosuppressive disorders being treated;
- History of severe adverse reactions associated with a vaccine and/or severe allergic reactions [in general];
- Received medications intended to prevent COVID-19;
- A developing fetus or are breastfeeding.""

Yeah, also:

[b]Hangnail
Toenail fungus
Dandruff
Moles
Freckles
Skin tags
Callouses
Pink Eye
Astigmatism
Amblyopia
Anisometropia
Hyperopia
Insomnia
Snoring
Tinnitus
Earwax

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Very immature. Even though it seems like you spent time on thinking through this childishness.

You whined abt not being shown facts. I showed you FACTS, straight from the horse's mouth, ie the company's trial design, and you respond with this nonsense.

GalacticCore called you a resident troll. I agree bc your posts show that you like to argue belligerently simply for the heck of it.

A few years ago I'd said that you're a deeply programmed individual.

I'll now go a bit further to describe why you troll and the meaning of being deeply programmed.

I can best explain in metaphors.

You're part of the large majority of people under the hypnosis of the power elite that have created a (virtual) pasture with such green grass that you hardly, if ever, bother to look up from where you're grazing, long enough to notice the brightly colored tags stapled to your ears. You cannot see your own enslavement! You cannot see past the farm and into the parlor of your feudal lordship's castle

There are over 7 billion people on the planet. 90% of them live and die without having seriously contemplated anything other than what it takes to keep their lives together. You're one of that 90%

You've found the world of politics. You vote, and have developed an opinion. Your opinions are shaped by the physical world around you. You have been “conditioned” or "programmed" at a deep subconscious level, from your days in public education (less blatantly if you had private education) to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are the primary voices of authority.

You have no understanding of the Illuminati, Freemasonry, and other secret societies that use symbols and perform ceremonies to perpetuate the transfer of secret, arcane knowledge among themselves generation after generation...knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic, and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth.

You are among the great majority of the people who are "tools" of the state.

You are the gullible voter whose ignorance justifies the actions of politicians who send untold millions of people, year after unholy year, off to die in foreign lands, as nothing more than cannon fodder. You, as well as the cannon fodder, believe that the self serving maneuvers of the controlling elite are matters of national security and are worth dying over.

Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of “Our Enemy, the State” (1935), wrote -
“What was the best that the state could find to do with an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to poison one and crucify the other, for no reason but that they were too intolerably embarrassing to be allowed to live any longer.”

So it's not that you don't want to see the truth. You simply *can't* see it just like someone cannot see what's behind a closed curtain.

To add more meaning to your life, you will need to understand two things -

1) Understand that living, breathing and thinking are just the beginning

and

2) Understand that the greatest adventure of our life is behind the closed curtain because it stands between you and your Creator, your Source, as well as your understanding of your own divinity.

Once you understand these two basic truths you will no longer feel the need to troll on LL bc you will be in your "Highest Vibration”