posted November 12, 2020 04:57 PM            

jwhop
<<<<A vaccine is not a 'cure' for disease.
Vaccines are a preventative against disease.>>>>

posted November 12, 2020 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"'Pfizer/BioNTech (ModernaRNA) COVID-19 vaccine Phase 3 Trial is being reported "90% effective" after less than 6-months evaluation of a 2-dose regimen in EXCLUSIVELY "healthy" subjects."

Of course vaccines are tested on 'healthy subjects'.

A vaccine is not a 'cure' for disease.
Vaccines are a preventative against disease.

"So JWHOP, unless you're 100% certain that you're 100% healthy, with ZERO underlying co-morbidities (known or unknown), I wldn't be going for the Vax"

Btw, no one is twisting your arm..mandating that you take the vaccine.

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Are you senile already?

This is YOUR quote from page 1 of this thread (quoted above) - 👇 🙄

"Of course vaccines are tested on 'healthy subjects'.

posted November 12, 2020 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:

What do you care about a vaccine anyway if you believe the virus is nothing to worry about? That's just a tad inconsistent.

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posted November 12, 2020 07:37 PM            

What do you care about a vaccine anyway if you believe the virus is nothing to worry about? That's just a tad inconsistent.

Good question."

posted November 13, 2020 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
I would agree with iQ and this is a highly complex situation that many don't bother to even investigate - I would advise all to sit back and await further developments as there are way too many questionmarks that need to be answered.

Eric Francis Coppolino who is a journalist by trade and pretty far from a conspiracy theorist speaks a bit about it here in his video about the great conjunction: http://youtu.be/I-nLIBy7_9Q

One of the questionmarks is the fact that results of case-testing is highly questionable - test-results that amp up the fear exponentially:

[b]Smoking gun: Fauci states COVID test has fatal flaw; confession from the “beloved” expert of experts | Added November 6

The COVID delusion is finished, blown apart

By Jon Rappoport

OK, here we go. Smoking gun. Jackpot.

Right from the horse’s mouth. Right from the man we’re told is the number-one COVID expert in the nation. What Fauci says is golden truth.

Well, how about THIS?

July 16, 2020, podcast, “This week in virology”: Tony Fauci makes a point of saying the PCR COVID test is useless and misleading when the test is run at “35 cycles or higher.” A positive result, indicating infection, cannot be accepted or believed.

Here, in techno-speak, is an excerpt from Fauci’s key quote (starting at about the 4-minute mark): “…If you get [perform the test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more…the chances of it being replication- confident [aka accurate] are miniscule…you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle…even 36…”

Each “cycle” of the test is a quantum leap in amplification and magnification of the test specimen taken from the patient.

Too many cycles, and the test will turn up all sorts of irrelevant material that will be wrongly interpreted as relevant.

That’s called a false positive.

What Fauci failed to say on the video is: the FDA, which authorizes the test for public use, recommends the test should be run up to 40 cycles. Not 35.

Therefore, all labs in the US that follow the FDA guideline are knowingly or unknowingly participating in fraud. Fraud on a monstrous level, because…

Millions of Americans are being told they are infected with the virus on the basis of a false positive result, and…

The total number of COVID cases in America—which is based on the test—is a gross falsity.

The lockdowns and other restraining measures are based on these fraudulent case numbers.

Let me back up and run that by you again. Fauci says the test is useless when it’s run at 35 cycles or higher. The FDA says run the test up to 40 cycles, in order to determine whether the virus is there. This is the crime in a nutshell.

If anyone in the White House has a few brain cells to rub together, pick up a giant bullhorn and start revealing the truth to the American people.

“Hello, America, you’ve been tricked, lied to, conned, and taken for a devastating ride. On the basis of fake science, the country was locked down.”

If anyone in the Congress has a few brain cells operating, pull Fauci into a televised hearing and, in ten minutes, make mincemeat out of the fake science that has driven this whole foul, stench-ridden assault on the US economy and its citizens.

All right, here are two chunks of evidence for what I’ve written above. First, we have a CDC quote on the FDA website, in a document titled: “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel For Emergency Use Only.” See page 35. This document is marked, “Effective: 07/13/20.” That means, even though the virus is being referred to by its older name, the document is still relevant as of July 2020. “For Emergency Use Only” refers to the fact that the FDA has certified the PCR test under a traditional category called “Emergency Use Authorization.”

FDA: “…a specimen is considered positive for 2019-nCoV [virus] if all 2019-nCoV marker (N1, N2) cycle threshold growth curves cross the threshold line within 40.00 cycles (< 40.00 Ct).”

Naturally, MANY testing labs reading this guideline would conclude, “Well, to see if the virus is there in a patient, we should run the test all the way to 40 cycles. That’s the official advice.”

Then we have a New York Times article (August 29/updated September 17) headlined: “Your coronavirus test is positive. Maybe it shouldn’t be.” Here are money quotes:

“Most tests set the limit at 40 [cycles]. A few at 37.” “Set the limit” would usually mean, “We’re going to look all the way to 40 cycles, to see if the virus is there.”

The Times: “This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients.” Boom. That’s the capper, the grand finale. Labs don’t or won’t reveal their collusion in this crime.

Get the picture?

I hope so.

If a lawyer won’t go to court with all this, or if a judge won’t pay attention and see the light, they should be stripped of their jobs and sent to the Arctic to sell snow.

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from http://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/11/06/smoking-gun-fauci-states-covid-test-has -fatal-flaw/ [/B]

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And then this from Mr Musk:

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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Something extremely bogus is going on. Was tested for covid four times today. Two tests came back negative, two came back positive. Same machine, same test, same nurse. Rapid antigen test from BD.
http://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327125840040169472

I tell ya, since this Sat-Plu conjunction is a seed-point the full results of this **** will explode at the 'full moon' opposition between them in 2035.

Everyone should pay attention to Saturn's travel towards Leo with this in mind, and Pluto's ingress into Aqua.

posted November 13, 2020 04:20 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:

What do you care about a vaccine anyway [b]if you believe the virus is nothing to worry about? That's just a tad inconsistent.

Good question."

Please don't confuse me with the left's 'Golden Boy', Anthony Fauci...who did say coronavirus was nothing to worry about.[/B]

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You have stated that you believe that either the WHO or your authorities (and that would be under Mr Trump's governance) have been reporting grossly exaggerated death tolls and you also believe that masks are not only unnecessary to reduce transmission, but actually cause more people to catch the virus.

Although we know that the latter is due to you ignoring the difference between correlation and causation in research results.

Nevertheless, you have been minimising the pandemic in various ways, giving the impression you are not concerned about it.

posted November 13, 2020 10:18 AM            

What if, just what if, the biggest Fake News has been that there was Fake News in the first place?

If Two Dangerous Vaccines are made, and one side chooses Vaccine A, the other side will Jab Vaccine B. EVen if something is truly off in both vaccines and MSM reports it, half the population will disbelieve MSM and perish.

Do you see the Game going on here.

posted November 13, 2020 10:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump can’t control what states do. He said they were inflating the numbers.

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posted November 13, 2020 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Why would Republican States inflate the numbers? Why would Texas lie about excess Mobile Morgues needed in El-Paso?

What if, just what if, the biggest Fake News has been that there was Fake News in the first place?

If Two Dangerous Vaccines are made, and one side chooses Vaccine A, the other side will Jab Vaccine B. EVen if something is truly off in both vaccines and MSM reports it, half the population will disbelieve MSM and perish.

Do you see the Game going on here.

In Reality, there is no Fake News. Genuine Reporting is going on with some "Confirmation Bias" on topic selection or mode of presentation by each News Channel. It is up to us to decipher the information with patience and Mathematical Facts than blind Faith in the "Conclusion" of any Media Source.

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Are you speaking to me?

From my perspective, there could be some sort of manipulation of the consciousness grid going on. The virus is certainly real, and from what I gather it - like SARS - is most likely manufactured. Its a population control tactic. The reality of the virus itself granted, the consciousness manipulation going on is exponentially affecting its effects. The effects are not less real, but the numbers that trigger the effects may be misleading.

We get from Gödel the fine idea that numbers are so flexible they can mimic human reasoning. It is on parallel with the notion that scientific materialism does not really aim to 'understand' the world, but rather to impose control on it.

We know far too little of how diseases spread.
Consider morphogenetic resonance patterns.
Consider increasing the awareness that one could get severly affected, and consider scare tactics aimed at a sick population that costs money on the one hand, and is a source of money on the other.

It is essentially the same as why democracy is fragile: learn to manipulate the masses and it will work in your favor. Better yet, set up a whole system that have the populace manipulate itself.

The scientific system certainly has its benefits, but its only purpose ontogenetically speaking up to this point was to hand us Promethean capacity. The next step is to re-member with the consciousness modalities that scientific materialism ferociously object to. Not to throw science away, but to integrate the other awareness-patterns into it (mainly magic/myth).

This is a peak of Capricorn Capitalist Materialism - a huge move. The system is inbread with freaks - Duterte, Bolsonaro, Trump - the list goes on - they are all on par with the famous Habsburg Chin. How they are pawns or not I will not speculate about - I am content to observe with awareness and focus on improving my own heart-radiance capacities.

To claim that any individual is either a scapegoat or saint is probably way off. This is higher consciousness operations above our standard earthly clearance level, Archons, possibly channeled by their control system on Earth, and possibly simply inspiring certain people to make certain decisions without them even being aware of where the compulsion comes from to do this or that. If that control system is below surface, with nodes in Buckingham, Vatican, etc. I can't say. But it's a massively complex network in operation here with equally massive occult awareness that very few can understand.

That said, cosmos works in mysterious ways that are even beyond their ultimate grasp.

posted November 13, 2020 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump can’t control what states do. He said they were inflating the numbers.

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posted November 13, 2020 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by nomad-monad:

And then this from Mr Musk:

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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Something extremely bogus is going on. Was tested for covid four times today. Two tests came back negative, two came back positive. Same machine, same test, same nurse. Rapid antigen test from BD.
http://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327125840040169472

I tell ya, since this Sat-Plu conjunction is a seed-point the full results of this **** will explode at the 'full moon' opposition between them in 2035.

Everyone should pay attention to Saturn's travel towards Leo with this in mind, and Pluto's ingress into Aqua.

In case you know your history this is the same synodic pair whose previous cycle had Mccarthyism seed the harvest of 9/11. Big stuff.

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posted November 13, 2020 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Why would Republican States inflate the numbers? Why would Texas lie about excess Mobile Morgues needed in El-Paso?

What if, just what if, the biggest Fake News has been that there was Fake News in the first place?

If Two Dangerous Vaccines are made, and one side chooses Vaccine A, the other side will Jab Vaccine B. EVen if something is truly off in both vaccines and MSM reports it, half the population will disbelieve MSM and perish.

Do you see the Game going on here.

In Reality, there is no Fake News. Genuine Reporting is going on with some "Confirmation Bias" on topic selection or mode of presentation by each News Channel. It is up to us to decipher the information with patience and Mathematical Facts than blind Faith in the "Conclusion" of any Media Source.

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posted November 13, 2020 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
You have stated that you believe that either the WHO or your authorities (and that would be under Mr Trump's governance) have been reporting grossly exaggerated death tolls and you also believe that masks are not only unnecessary to reduce transmission, but actually cause more people to catch the virus.

Although we know that the latter is due to you ignoring the difference between correlation and causation in research results.

Nevertheless, you have been minimising the pandemic in various ways, giving the impression you are not concerned about it.

Incidentally, the WHO claims that it receives numbers of deaths from your authorities, if these numbers are false why would Mr Trump allow this?

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posted November 13, 2020 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I don’t trust Elon musk.

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From my angle, Musk is too much of a Uranian wildcard radical geek agent to be either a puppet or political fanaticist. He is too devoted to his own work for that I think and not much interested in else, apart perhaps from family.

I don't particularly enjoy him personally, nor do I agree with his AI-theories - even if I find his force against fossil fuel to be earth-beneficial.

But I do find it likely that he would enjoy attempting to crack a code in this case, and I do believe the testing-procedures have questionmarks that are to be taken seriously.

posted November 14, 2020 11:42 AM            

I am pessimistic when I learnt the Pfizer CEO sold his shares recently. Hmm.

posted November 14, 2020 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Elon Musk is an important player towards men becoming transhumans leading them to the Grays species. If that is a great future , awesome. If not , the conspirators are successful in beaming rays at him and others to get them infected.

I am pessimistic when I learnt the Pfizer CEO sold his shares recently. Hmm.

The PCR test was great in isolating the HIV virus. And that took several years to perfect. The corona virus is showing erratic PCR test results.

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But we have to be careful.

There are multiple sample types that can be analysed by PCR: blood, saliva, nasal and throat swabs ...., with nasal and throat swabs samples being liable to give equivocal samples or false negatives by virtue of the sampling, which requires excellent technique. Same with saliva to an extent.

Also, there are a difference in the types of tests which target different proteins: RNA, antibodies or antigens. These give totally different indications.

So, using blanket statements that we see in social media or _shit like that, means nothing without context.

posted November 14, 2020 03:40 PM            

To claim that any individual is either a scapegoat or saint is probably way off. This is higher consciousness operations above our standard earthly clearance level, Archons, possibly channeled by their control system on Earth, and possibly simply inspiring certain people to make certain decisions without them even being aware of where the compulsion comes from to do this or that. If that control system is below surface, with nodes in Buckingham, Vatican, etc. I can't say. But it's a massively complex network in operation here with equally massive occult awareness that very few can understand.

That said, cosmos works in mysterious ways that are even beyond their ultimate grasp.

posted November 14, 2020 03:43 PM            

States report 'death tolls' to the feds. Included in those state reported 'covid death tolls' are many, most in fact, who died 'WITH' covid. The actual death tolls 'FROM' covid total about 10,000 nationwide. People who died from gunshots, traffic accidents, suicides, etc, did not die 'FROM' covid 19.

As for masks, CDC reports that 85% of those who caught covid 19 wore masks all the time..or most of the time when out in public.

Further, the best mask is reported to be the N-95 mask. Most people, and I mean the vast majority don't wear the N-95 mask. The N-95 mask is designed to filter out 95% of particles, including virus, down to 0.30 microns in size. The average size of the covid-19 virus is 0.125 microns. So tell me how a mask designed to filter particles down to 0.30 microns in size filters particles almost 3 times smaller than it's specifications.

posted November 14, 2020 03:46 PM            

The Absolute Core of all Evil is to Control the Essence of Human DNA that can Love Unconditionally and Selflessly. This Love attracts Energy on Demand from Divine Source.
In limited quantity, it feeds the Archons and their Minions, but if it becomes limitless, like a Controlled Kundalini which can safely overload, then it will kill the Archons.

Lets say we are 20 Volt Batteries now, Archons want us to become 5 Volt batteries because a Circuit Upgrade will allow us to load and distribute a million volts due to Mutation. Archons will die at 100 Volts...

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