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Topic: I Wish this had been Upheld in this Forum
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Dhyana
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Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 15, 2020 01:15 PM
  
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
You’re welcome
"Also you get another forum you can spam with incoherent Twitter links." I was being ironic. I thought it was obvious - I guess not.  IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
Moderator Posts: 2882
From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
Voix, the problems you cite were endemic on GU 1.GU 2 has degraded because the number of posters and the quality of posters has declined. But it was always a hot mess. Always. Ive many times begged Juniperb (privately) to give up this moderator position and stop posting. It is a rotting carcass now, and tbh I save serious political discussions for other groups.
I hear you. But there is also evidence of more respect and productive discussion than I see in here. Why have you given up? All these people coming together is still an opportunity. What about the concept of 'global unity' on a Linda Goodman website? Should we give it up because it's hard? Did Linda give up? IP: Logged |
shura
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From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
So do I. On forums where conspiracy theories don’t thrive.
I have no problem at all with people theorizing. Even when the theories seem to me unlikely or even absurd. Better that than swallowing official narratives without question. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
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Registered: Dec 2014
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posted November 15, 2020 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
I was being ironic. I thought it was obvious - I guess not.
Yep I know. And I was being sarcastic. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2626
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I hear you. But there is also evidence of more respect and productive discussion than I see in here.Why have you given up? All these people coming together is still an opportunity. What about the concept of 'global unity' on a Linda Goodman website? Should we give it up because it's hard? Did Linda give up?
If it was more productive, this was due to the two reasons pointed out.
Again, ime the way forward lies outside politics. Politics will always infect the user, so to speak. That's part of its purpose. Water is wet, voix. You can't make it dry.
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teasel
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
I have no problem at all with people theorizing. Even when the theories seem to me unlikely or even absurd. Better that than swallowing official narratives without question.
I do, when the theories are pushed as fact, and people are being threatened because of it. I mentioned a man in a local group, talking about a civil war. Another man burst in, going on about 60 million dead babies. Someone else, who was shut down on another forum, inferred that I worship Satan and eat babies, because I’m a liberal. She said that abortion is ritual sacrifice, and nobody could change her mind. Well, the president she worships, might be able to. Will he? No. The pizza gate nonsense got him elected. The moderators took care of that (they also don’t let people insult trump supporters). IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
Moderator Posts: 2882
From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
If it was more productive, this was due to the two reasons pointed out.
Again, ime the way forward lies outside politics. Politics will always infect the user, so to speak. That's part of its purpose. Water is wet, voix. You can't make it dry.
I disagree. The goal of politics is to agree solutions to problems. That is all. If people respected the point then it wouldn't be as much of a riot. If people made the effort to retain respect for others then it wouldn't be as much of a riot. Being disrespectful is not a prerequisite for problem-solving. Being disrespectful is personal choice. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 15, 2020 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
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Also, the conspricy theories belong in another forum . please put your material in the correct forum or it may be moved.
But, but, but...
This poses a huge dilemma, Juni, seeing that we're living in Orwellian times & truth is fiction and up is down, and what was considered a conspiracy 20 yrs ago is now a reality unfolding before our eyes, and seeing that the term “conspiracy" was coined by the cee eye aaa to program people to disregard the truth...it wld be sooo difficult to decide what *is* a real conspiracy...
Scratch that, i'm just yanking your chain for old times sake
So how the heck ARE you dear Juni? 😄
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Linda Jones
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posted November 15, 2020 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Did Linda give up?
You called? 😋 IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2626
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I do, when the theories are pushed as fact, and people are being threatened because of it. I mentioned a man in a local group, talking about a civil war. Another man burst in, going on about 60 million dead babies. Someone else, who was shut down on another forum, inferred that I worship Satan and eat babies, because I’m a liberal. She said that abortion is ritual sacrifice, and nobody could change her mind. Well, the president she worships, might be able to. Will he? No. The pizza gate nonsense got him elected. The moderators took care of that (they also don’t let people insult trump supporters).
So exactly what about this exchange bothers you?
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shura
Knowflake Posts: 2626
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I disagree. The goal of politics is to agree solutions to problems.
Oof. 
Gonna go out on a limb here and ask if you're European?
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Voix_de_la_Mer
Moderator Posts: 2882
From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
You called? 😋
Oh great  now the ghosts have arrived
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teasel
Knowflake Posts: 16435
From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
So exactly what about this exchange bothers you?
The belief that democrats are evil overlords who steal your babies and eat them? I was amused at the time, but unsettled that this woman actually believes that. She isn’t alone. M The threats of civil war aren’t great, and with the growing unrest amongst people with guns (trump supporters), you don’t see a problem? You’ll come down on peaceful protesters, ignore the fact that white supremacists were starting trouble to make BLM protests look bad (such as burning the police precinct), but see no problem with talk of another civil war? IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
Moderator Posts: 2882
From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
Oof. Gonna go out on a limb here and ask if you're European?
I detect the cynicism in your 'oof'  I'm Scottish. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2626
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
The belief that democrats are evil overlords who steal your babies and eat them? I was amused at the time, but unsettled that this woman actually believes that. She isn’t alone.
People believe all sorts of things, teasel.
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teasel
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From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
People believe all sorts of things, teasel.
Yes, but they usually aren’t encouraged by the president, who sees no use for people who didn’t vote for him. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2626
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I detect the cynicism in your 'oof' I'm Scottish.
A sort of mild amusement.
If I allow myself to think long on it that amusement would morph into something closer to disheartment.
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Voix_de_la_Mer
Moderator Posts: 2882
From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
A sort of mild amusement.If I allow myself to think long on it that amusement would morph into something closer to disheartment.
I don't envy you. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 16435
From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
A sort of mild amusement.If I allow myself to think long on it that amusement would morph into something closer to disheartment.
I’m already there. IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 04:43 PM
From my observations, this is the left's definition of conspiracy theory:Anything that does not agree with or questions its narrative which it cannot directly rebuke ==> conspiracy theory! If moderators in this forum want to have any kind of legitimacy, they need to rein in their partisan whims. IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 04:43 PM
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AcousticGod
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From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 04:49 PM
People on the left often engage in directing rebuking conspiracy theories. It's not fundamentally difficult. If the conspiracy is big enough, like Pizzagate, the sheer amount of nonsense to refute may not be worth the effort, particularly because people aren't convinced by evidence. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
Moderator Posts: 2882
From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
From my observations, this is the left's definition of conspiracy theory:Anything that does not agree with or questions its narrative which it cannot directly rebuke ==> conspiracy theory! If moderators in this forum want to have any kind of legitimacy, they need to rein in their partisan whims.
Eh? Perhaps as the webmaster, Randall could define "conspiracy theory". Problem solved. IP: Logged |
Dhyana
Knowflake Posts: 1054
From: US
Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 15, 2020 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
Yep I know. And I was being sarcastic.
Bless your heart. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 16435
From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
From my observations, this is the left's definition of conspiracy theory:Anything that does not agree with or questions its narrative which it cannot directly rebuke ==> conspiracy theory! If moderators in this forum want to have any kind of legitimacy, they need to rein in their partisan whims.
Nobody has been reining anyone in, until now. Nobody. IP: Logged |
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