posted November 18, 2020 11:57 AM            

For a more solid source of so called conspiracy theory, I highly recommend James Corbett of the The Corbett Report (currently on YT, but may be taken off in the near future). He identifies neither with right nor left. He meticulously documents and cites his sources on his website for every video he does. He doesn't get everything 100% correct, but then again no human but He/She (Yeshua) does, and that individual isn't really human anymore as we understand, believe, and perceive it.

Have been watching him for years. Earlier on, was wondering if he was a more trustworthy source, and heard the person above say, "he is one of mine." For self, that is a pretty big approval mark, however, it doesn't mean that I don't still apply discernment and discrimination. Once self started to learn the N. Node in Virgo lesson, self has made it a regular habit.

For me, the biggest and most obvious litmus test for whether people are truly open minded, objective, and skeptical simultaneously (the only way to "truth" besides honed intuition or repeat experience) are their views towards 9/11. Because there are more holes in the official account of same than in a colander. If a person doesn't even question the official account--I know they are likely a completely lost cause and no amount of evidence and holistic, internally consistent logic will convince them of anything.

The only thing that should not be allowed in any forum in my view, are nasty personal attacks. For example, I would completely understand my semi-recent reply to JWhop being removed (however, I would not have gone in that direction if I hadn't seen multiple examples of him doing similar to another person).

Otherwise, people care far too much what others do or don't do, believe or don't believe. Why care so much? Live your own life, hike your own hike. If you disagree sufficiently or think the subject is important, then debate it impersonally using as much evidence and persuasion as you can. Humans would be a lot happier lot if they focused more on improving themselves than the vain effort of removing the splinters in others' eyes. It's a form of subtle, unconscious egoic based control to try to censor the beliefs and perceptions of others.

In another lifetime, I use to be left leaning. I have become mighty disappointed with the left and it's increasingly fervent, near rabid "cancel culture". It should be more tolerant and accepting. Look at the harm it does when not all the facts are in and a person's life and career is ruined like in Johnny Depp's case. People got a very brief, highly edited video taken out of larger context and a lying viper of a woman with fake bruises saying Depp beats me.

Without much questions, discernment, discrimination, or open minded skepticism, most people were like, Cancel the mother f'er. Now that far more detailed and extensive evidence has come out, it has become very clear that most people got things arse backwards, and that Heard was the perpetrator/abuser in this relationship and Depp more so the abusee.

Well shite, certainly did make a mistake on that one, and now his career is mostly in the toilet still, even though all this evidence has come to light.

We swing from one extreme to the opposite extreme far too much and often. Why is balance so hard to achieve and maintain?

posted November 18, 2020 12:51 PM            

It's bc people are programmed from birth to believe in the group mentality.

I just made this post (below) on my other thread in reply to iQ who wished that more people wld pay attention to the dangers of 5G, this vax & the hoax being perpetrated through the great reset. Here's what i said -

"I agree. It's why i've returned to do some posts here, seeing that the internet is deliberately being systematically scrubbed clean, which is also part of their control agenda. Soon people are not going to find anything other than what they want to brainwash us with. I'll post more on this later.

What I'm most surprised abt after returning to thus forum is that, with everything going on in plain sight, practically knocking at people's doors, most of the people here are still not paying attention. The group mentality is still very strong here, the "us versus them", which will ultimately be a huge disadvantage to humans in the long run...

I think i can only try. I'll post things that i get in my mail, things that you can't find easily on the net. If i find that people are not paying attention, i'll leave, bc frankly it's better to spend valuable time on those who will listen & are brave enough to want to take steps to prepare & protect themselves & their loved ones."

Covid is meant to be a wake up call...for all humans in the world. I've said it elsewhere & i'll say it again here. We need to be able to look past what is being presented to us. We're living in a false matrix, a false reality. If we cannot see through the deception, humanity, as we know it & understand it, will perish. Only slaves to AI (artificial intelligence) will be left.

People need to question everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, and they need to stop looking for political officials to save them. Bc no one except we ourselves can save us. There's zero point in holding our breath to see who will win this election. The entities that have planned this whole thing are far more clever, manipulative, & deceptive than the human mind can even begin to comprehend. (Everyone who is anyone in politics has already been bought).

A member of the elite system who defected back to humans (bc he drew the line when he was expected to participate in harming children), has spoken out & said that they take advantage of the fact that humans can be so easily divded. It makes it very easy to control people. He also said that if all of humanity cld stand united, all of this deception wld be over in a heartbeat!

But what i'm seeing on this forum is the same old infighting that was going on several years ago. It's not abt disagreeing, people can disagree, it's the loss of a common vision that will strengthen everyone. For the most part, what I'm seeing here is that people are lost...

Humans have to turn their attention to transcending their differences & use the most powerful tool they possess...Love...if they want to win this precipitous situation. Bc the dark side, which is what we're dealing with (in the form of these controllers), doesn't know love. They operate on the level of fear. If humanity lost all it's fear by turning to love, the dark side wld have no choice but to leave our planet.

posted November 18, 2020 01:11 PM            

I know things look rather dark, but in the near to nearish future (I don't know the exact timing--not sure that it can be known or pin pointed), the Creative Forces via nature will be intervening and leveling the entire playing field so that the plutocrats lose a lot of power and influence. After all, a lot of that is based on money, electricity and technology--take all of these out of the equation while removing a number of these from the body, and one gives humanity a fighting chance.

I am reminded of Bob Monroe's conversation with the fully awakened one as relayed in Ultimate Journeys:

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Awakened one: “Now, instead of all the questions, why don’t you read what needs organizing and the goals to be achieved? I can give you what you call a ROTE about that, about a plan that doesn’t involve communism or socialism, capitalism or dictatorship.”

Bob: “They say it can’t be done.”

Awakened one: “That is what makes it worth the effort. It needs a unified worldwide human endeavor. This will happen through recognized necessity, not through religions, race, or political beliefs, or force of arms.”

Bob: “Necessity is severe stuff. The world would have to be in rough shape.”

Awakened one: “That is the reason for waiting. The time will come.”

Bob: “But worldwide, humans have never agreed on anything.”

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Bob was somewhat misperceiving though. It’s not about agreeing necessarily, as in having the same exact thought, opinions, and/or beliefs, but it’s about having similar ideals. Ideals are both different than and yet related to belief systems. Ideals are very, very core and generalized beliefs. Most people feel and believe that kindness, compassion, empathy, etc are worthwhile traits to cultivate–that is an ideal.

posted November 18, 2020 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
You know what? I may have overreacted to Juniper's statement about conspiracy theories, based on my own experience with the left here and on other forums, dismissing any diverging opinion about Covid, medical treatments, political parties, election results as conspiracy theories.
I can own up to that and apologize for assuming this is where Juniper was coming from.

Maybe she comes from a genuine place, I will give her the benefit of the doubt.

In terms of the polls, what I was alluding to was that the polls consistently gave Biden a huge lead over Trump, when the actual results show that if Biden wins, it will be razor thin. Questioning polls does not make one a conspiracy theorist. Questioning what the media is presenting us as TRUE and REAL does not make one a conspiracy theorist. This is my fear that anyone who objects to what is officially presented as real will be deemed a tin foil hat thinker and relagated to the goulag of conspiracy theory forum.

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posted November 18, 2020 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
This infighting and quibbling amongst us commoners who lean left and lean right is exactly what the plutocrats want and like. Makes their job much easier.

For a more solid source of so called conspiracy theory, I highly recommend James Corbett of the The Corbett Report (currently on YT, but may be taken off in the near future). He identifies neither with right nor left. He meticulously documents and cites his sources on his website for every video he does. He doesn't get everything 100% correct, but then again no human but He/She (Yeshua) does, and that individual isn't really human anymore as we understand, believe, and perceive it.

Have been watching him for years. Earlier on, was wondering if he was a more trustworthy source, and heard the person above say, "he is one of mine." For self, that is a pretty big approval mark, however, it doesn't mean that I don't still apply discernment and discrimination. Once self started to learn the N. Node in Virgo lesson, self has made it a regular habit.

For me, the biggest and most obvious litmus test for whether people are truly open minded, objective, and skeptical simultaneously (the only way to "truth" besides honed intuition or repeat experience) are their views towards 9/11. Because there are more holes in the official account of same than in a colander. If a person doesn't even question the official account--I know they are likely a completely lost cause and no amount of evidence and holistic, internally consistent logic will convince them of anything.

The only thing that should not be allowed in any forum in my view, are nasty personal attacks. For example, I would completely understand my semi-recent reply to JWhop being removed (however, I would not have gone in that direction if I hadn't seen multiple examples of him doing similar to another person).

Otherwise, people care far too much what others do or don't do, believe or don't believe. Why care so much? Live your own life, hike your own hike. If you disagree sufficiently or think the subject is important, then debate it impersonally using as much evidence and persuasion as you can. Humans would be a lot happier lot if they focused more on improving themselves than the vain effort of removing the splinters in others' eyes. It's a form of subtle, unconscious egoic based control to try to censor the beliefs and perceptions of others.

In another lifetime, I use to be left leaning. I have become mighty disappointed with the left and it's increasingly fervent, near rabid "cancel culture". It should be more tolerant and accepting. Look at the harm it does when not all the facts are in and a person's life and career is ruined like in Johnny Depp's case. People got a very brief, highly edited video taken out of larger context and a lying viper of a woman with fake bruises saying Depp beats me.

Without much questions, discernment, discrimination, or open minded skepticism, most people were like, Cancel the mother f'er. Now that far more detailed and extensive evidence has come out, it has become very clear that most people got things arse backwards, and that Heard was the perpetrator/abuser in this relationship and Depp more so the abusee.

Well shite, certainly did make a mistake on that one, and now his career is mostly in the toilet still, even though all this evidence has come to light.

We swing from one extreme to the opposite extreme far too much and often. Why is balance so hard to achieve and maintain?

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I’m talking about conspiracy theories like “democrats eat babies, and participate in sexual abuse and sexual-trafficking. Donald trump is here to save the world from them!” It’s ridiculous, and sick.

posted November 18, 2020 03:44 PM            

"That time that the awakened one referred to is coming and sooner than later."

Yes. When covid began i knew the danger humanity was in right away. [For 2-3 yrs prior i'd had dreams in which i saw things that were going to happen, so when covid began, i knew that the start of that time had arrived].

Then shortly after covid began i was taken up in a spaceship that was circling earth, i saw earth below me through the transparent material in the front of the spaceship. We circled earth for a bit. A benevolent high dimensional being was with me in that spaceship, though i cldn't see it in physical form. Neither cld i tell if it was male or female (perhaps due to the limitations of my own mind, even though i can feel others' energies quite adequately otherwise).

This being communicated with me telepathically & said, "Technology (on earth) has developed very rapidly but the infrastructure hasn't kept up". I was concerned abt earth so the benevolent one said, "earth will be fine, but there will be some crumbling." In my mind's eye i saw earth bursting at the seams.

After this the experience continued & i was brought back to earth. I felt the sunshine on me even though i was sans my physical body. My heart filled w sadness bc i vividly saw earth as a jewel in the sky being slowly destroyed by the plutocrat class. The experience continued as i saw other things happening on earth, i saw how politicians are completely mind controlled through advanced technology used on them by the dark side, & how people are being deceived at levels they cannot even comprehend.

Later i read abt earth's importance in the galaxy & learned that she is indeed considered a jewel by all the higher beings who are watching things unfold on our planet right now.

The experience gave me an inner feeling that something big is going to happen soon, but i too don't know the time frame. I spoke abt my experience with a fully awakened shaman who has done many earth missions over the years to thwart the dark side. She told me the time frame is two years...so from the spring of 2020 to the spring of 2022.

I know that during this time humans need to focus on vibrating to love rather than fear, to successfully handle this negativity, that everyone shld be working on clearing out their individual energetic systems, & healing from all past trauma, through forgiveness of self & others. Only through daily concerted effort can we transcend the control games that are typical of the 3rd (earth) & 4th (astral) dimensions.

Light codes are being disseminated from solar flares & other types of radiation. Our DNA is assimilating these Light codes.

[This is why the vax is so dangerous, it is meant to block our evolution. No matter how much they say that it will not impact our dna, that is a deception. The injection is going to utilize the process of TRANSFECTION, it is the same process that is used to insert genes & make GMO crops].

Only those humans vibrating to the energy of love can make use of the Light codes to evolve (ascend) to 5D. Others will get left behind, even though Source is calling to *all* souls to return Home. We have free will & so we will need to make a conscious choice to take these steps.

Since my experience, I've been asking the Goddess (who is now also rising to reclaim her rightful place that was taken away for thousands of years by patriarchy)...to give humanity more time to awaken. It is She Who has lovingly created this covid situation bc the negativity was getting too out of hand. It is to give people time to consider deeply.

posted November 18, 2020 04:23 PM            

Those are some intense dreams Linda. Yeah, future is tricky when it comes to both time and exact manifestation. My partner has had a lot of accurate precognitive dreams, but about a year ago, she had a dream that Trump would likely win slightly over Biden. So far, it seems to be the reverse.

Either the probability had changed due to freewill causing changes over that year, or something else.

It's why I am very hesitant to give a time to the whole cataclysm thing. But my best sense is that the highest probability so far, is from two to six years or so from now. But I really don't know, and probably shouldn't even say that.

posted November 19, 2020 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
This infighting and quibbling amongst us commoners who lean left and lean right is exactly what the plutocrats want and like. Makes their job much easier.

For a more solid source of so called conspiracy theory, I highly recommend James Corbett of the The Corbett Report (currently on YT, but may be taken off in the near future). He identifies neither with right nor left. He meticulously documents and cites his sources on his website for every video he does. He doesn't get everything 100% correct, but then again no human but He/She (Yeshua) does, and that individual isn't really human anymore as we understand, believe, and perceive it.

Have been watching him for years. Earlier on, was wondering if he was a more trustworthy source, and heard the person above say, "he is one of mine." For self, that is a pretty big approval mark, however, it doesn't mean that I don't still apply discernment and discrimination. Once self started to learn the N. Node in Virgo lesson, self has made it a regular habit.

For me, the biggest and most obvious litmus test for whether people are truly open minded, objective, and skeptical simultaneously (the only way to "truth" besides honed intuition or repeat experience) are their views towards 9/11. Because there are more holes in the official account of same than in a colander. If a person doesn't even question the official account--I know they are likely a completely lost cause and no amount of evidence and holistic, internally consistent logic will convince them of anything.

The only thing that should not be allowed in any forum in my view, are nasty personal attacks. For example, I would completely understand my semi-recent reply to JWhop being removed (however, I would not have gone in that direction if I hadn't seen multiple examples of him doing similar to another person).

Otherwise, people care far too much what others do or don't do, believe or don't believe. Why care so much? Live your own life, hike your own hike. If you disagree sufficiently or think the subject is important, then debate it impersonally using as much evidence and persuasion as you can. Humans would be a lot happier lot if they focused more on improving themselves than the vain effort of removing the splinters in others' eyes. It's a form of subtle, unconscious egoic based control to try to censor the beliefs and perceptions of others.

In another lifetime, I use to be left leaning. I have become mighty disappointed with the left and it's increasingly fervent, near rabid "cancel culture". It should be more tolerant and accepting. Look at the harm it does when not all the facts are in and a person's life and career is ruined like in Johnny Depp's case. People got a very brief, highly edited video taken out of larger context and a lying viper of a woman with fake bruises saying Depp beats me.

Without much questions, discernment, discrimination, or open minded skepticism, most people were like, Cancel the mother f'er. Now that far more detailed and extensive evidence has come out, it has become very clear that most people got things arse backwards, and that Heard was the perpetrator/abuser in this relationship and Depp more so the abusee.

Well shite, certainly did make a mistake on that one, and now his career is mostly in the toilet still, even though all this evidence has come to light.

We swing from one extreme to the opposite extreme far too much and often. Why is balance so hard to achieve and maintain?

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Thank you for your points Galactic. The in-group/out-group mentality is unfortunately as old as time, but it is personal responsibility whether to engage in it. I think we have all been guilty of it. This thread was a reminder for all of us of the original spirit that this forum was meant for. The spirit in which this forum was created (see description), if it was adhered to, would create 'global unity'.

There will of course be disagreement and heated exchanges, but when we are at the point of completely ignoring anything 'the other side' says and have devolved to just insulting and name-calling, then we have fallen far beyond the point that anything productive can come out of the discussions. Which is a big waste considering the excellent minds and hearts that LL attracts.

posted November 19, 2020 01:59 PM            

Humanity will wake/grow up, and become more unified, when we realize that Love is the most important ideal there is. Not necessary to have the same beliefs, thoughts, etc, but to interact with Love. Love being the active recognition, concern for, and livingness of the Oneness of the Whole and that we all come from the same Source, and most eventually consciously realize their Oneness with that most beautiful and positive Source.

With that said, conflict has its place, until it doesn't. Which is why the teacher of Love and peace par excellence (whom Bob referred to as "He/She" until he realized who he was actually talking to) said, "Think not that I have come to bring peace in the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."

The interesting thing about pure Love, is that it destroys illusions and false beliefs, systems, and structures. In that sense, it can appear as "destructive" i.e. a "sword". It reveals all the ugliness and lights up the shadows and dark places. As long as the ugliness and shadows are there, conflict will have its place. And Mars, the red wavelength, is just as much as part of the White/Clear Light as Venus and cyan or Jupiter and Neptune and violet (an over simplification for brevity's sake).

posted November 20, 2020 07:04 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Agree on all points Voix. It very much relates to what I mentioned about "ideals" vs beliefs and belief systems.

Humanity will wake/grow up, and become more unified, when we realize that Love is the most important ideal there is. Not necessary to have the same beliefs, thoughts, etc, but to interact with Love. Love being the active recognition, concern for, and livingness of the Oneness of the Whole and that we all come from the same Source, and most eventually consciously realize their Oneness with that most beautiful and positive Source.

With that said, conflict has its place, until it doesn't. Which is why the teacher of Love and peace par excellence (whom Bob referred to as "He/She" until he realized who he was actually talking to) said, "Think not that I have come to bring peace in the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."

The interesting thing about pure Love, is that it destroys illusions and false beliefs, systems, and structures. In that sense, it can appear as "destructive" i.e. a "sword". It reveals all the ugliness and lights up the shadows and dark places. As long as the ugliness and shadows are there, conflict will have its place. And Mars, the red wavelength, is just as much as part of the White/Clear Light as Venus and cyan or Jupiter and Neptune and violet (an over simplification for brevity's sake).

Ultimately what is most helpful is a combination of balance, integration, and Love (Love being like the White/Clear Light itself).

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