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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2824 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 10:26 AM
What do the 'left' and 'right' agree on (other than to disagree)?(edited as per response below) IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 2626 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 11:55 AM
Democrat and Republican politicians specifically? I would say they disagree on very little.Dems and Republs in general? Those labels dont much apply anymore. Not many maintain a strict allegiance to the Party. Anecdotal but in my family I have a registered Repub who voted Biden and a registered Dem who voted Trump. This is common. Maybe better to categorize Left, Center, Right? Tho even within that framework there is major disagreement, intertribal fighting etc. This is why Antifa attacks Biden supporters, and the Far Left say "Even Liberals get the bullet." This why Nazbols like Richard Spencer support Biden, and the alt right groypers beat on the normie magas. So while it's nice to look for common ground, the way your question is framed oversimplifies the situation.
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2824 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 12:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by shura: Democrat and Republican politicians specifically? I would say they disagree on very little.Dems and Republs in general? Those labels dont much apply anymore. Not many maintain a strict allegiance to the Party. Anecdotal but in my family I have a registered Repub who voted Biden and a registered Dem who voted Trump. This is common. Maybe better to categorize Left, Center, Right? Tho even within that framework there is major disagreement, intertribal fighting etc. This is why Antifa attacks Biden supporters, and the Far Left say "Even Liberals get the bullet." This why Nazbols like Richard Spencer support Biden, and the alt right groypers beat on the normie magas. So while it's nice to look for common ground, the way your question is framed oversimplifies the situation.
I considered asking about 'left' and 'right', but I wasn't sure if that was the true dynamics of the situation. I take on board that I was wrong. OK, let's edit the question. Thanks Shura. IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 2626 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 12:18 PM
Just my observation of it all. I'm sure someone will disagree IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2824 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 12:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by shura: Just my observation of it all. I'm sure someone will disagree
How ironic would that be on this thread IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16385 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2020 02:24 PM
I’m not sure anymore, because as I mentioned in another thread, “owning the libs” is treated like a sport. As long as we are angry, the republicans are doing something right. I didn’t want republicans to die of covid, even if it meant they voted the sociopath back in for another four years. You would think that not wanting American citizens to die, would be something that both sides would agree on, but they don’t. I know a few trump supporters who do, and I know a local woman who actually stopped supporting trump, and left a group because it was full of people pushing that covid is a hoax. Back in the spring, that was either the argument, or that people should die for the economy. The rest of us argued against that, because it’s sociopathic, but anything for trump, or so that people could party again. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising Knowflake Posts: 1236 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 02:38 PM
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If the Sun & Moon should doubt. They'd immediately Go out. (William Blake)
Dems are the moon people of mercy according to the Kabala and Repubs , severity. There will always enter an apprentice wishing to evolve and the fight must go on so that he understands and come to a knowing voluntarily all of his own accord.
The bill of rights (rites) add W (for magic) and you get writes . Thus it protects each sides from overriding each other. Only a Jesus, buddha who has popped open their pineal gland (third eye) can stand in the third place , a land of milk and honey and enjoy the play. Jesus of the Bible was never angry , he couldn't be. He is free of Karma in that state. Neo of the matrix when attached to what he saw , bled and could have died in the matrix thinking it was all real. It is real in a sense but unreal. Perhaps this is how existence provided a school for us here in this solar system to play , learn and grow. To return to the source when all things due you have been done. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2824 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 15, 2020 03:49 PM
I just came across a thread in the old GU that is similar to this one. It's called "I DARE you to say one nice thing..."(about the 'other side'): http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000454.html I am impressed!! IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2824 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 16, 2020 07:03 AM
Here are some opinions from the old thread I noticed that in that thread at least, that not many 'conservatives' participated in the thread's aim, however a few members believed that both sides are necessary for a balance. What do you all think? quote: One thing I admire about conservatives, however, is that they are usually so secure in their convictions. It often seems to me that liberals don't know what they believe in, but you can be darn sure that most conservatives know *exactly* where they stand.
quote: I appreciate how those who are what might be termed as "liberal-minded" are always looking out for the average joe, as well as environmental issues, and animal rights.
quote: I think many times people get the wrong idea about conservatives. They're moreso focused on the idea of the COMMUNITY MEMBERS(yes, some of which may be comprised of wealthy business owners with big bucks)giving back to society of their own accord, rather than the idea of government taking their money via increased taxes and distributing it as they (the gov) see fit. I mean, money all comes from the same place anyway (the citizens), so why not let them (us) have greater power over what we decide to do with it? There will always be those people who abuse their status of wealth and do not give back to those in need. However, I think there are more who genuinely wish to give back. I was just reading about a very wealthy business owner who donated 50 million of his own money to open an educational center for underpriveledged children. I think conservatives basically trust (maybe too much?) that people will take care of each other whereas more liberal minded individuals see a need to procure money for the same basic purposes but in a different way, namely raising taxes. It seems the liberals are more pessimistic about the idea of people's ability to give freely, and therefore feel that we must be imposed upon to do so, whereas the conservative view is more optimistic/trusting of people to give without government "prodding" via taxes. Both sides are trying to achieve the same ultimate result but in different ways. Two different sides of the same coin....But the intent is usually truly genuine on both sides, it seems. A balance of forces is always needed.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 16385 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 16, 2020 06:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: I just came across a thread in the old GU that is similar to this one. It's called "I DARE you to say one nice thing..."(about the 'other side'): http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000454.html I am impressed!!
I skimmed this last night, and felt nostalgic. I remember one thread in which people did come together: when Rainbow was sick. That was fourteen years ago. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/007271.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/007631.html IP: Logged |