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Topic: Jeezo, 7 Potential Vaccines coming to the UK
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2899 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 20, 2020 07:02 AM
quote: So far, the UK government has secured access to more than 355 million doses of experimental vaccines, including:100 million doses - Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine 60 million doses - Novavax vaccine 60 million doses - Valneva vaccine 60 million doses - GSK/Sanofi Pasteur vaccine 40 million doses - BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine 30 million doses - Janssen vaccine 5 million doses - Moderna vaccine
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54984390 -------------------------------------------
The programme is due to start 1st week in Dec for key workers and vulnerable groups, with the general population being offered it over Spring/Summer 2021. "There are no plans to make the vaccine mandatory".
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SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 2726 From: Dallas Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 20, 2020 06:34 PM
I think only the seniors need to be protected.I'm pretty sure almost everyone will get Covid except for a few mountain hermits. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 134173 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2020 07:46 PM
We should be encouraging herd immunity. After lockdowns end, the virus is still around. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 2035 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 20, 2020 09:05 PM
@ Viox Oh the mandates are coming, you can bet on it. It's the slow boiling of the frog in water. They put the squeeze slowly so you don't notice until it's too late.They'll first try the soft approach to get you to take it - scaring you, shaming you, guilt tripping you, telling you it's your patriotic duty to take it (never mind that the "patriotism" that gets thousands of soldiers killed every year, seems to benefit only the elite & never the common people). They will also get religious leaders to "urge" you to take it.
When the soft (manipulative) approach fails, meaning not enough people get it, then will come the mandates.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 134173 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2020 09:09 PM
Biden is already saying it’s our “patriotic duty” to wear a mask.IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2899 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 21, 2020 04:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: We should be encouraging herd immunity. After lockdowns end, the virus is still around.
I have to disagree Randall. That could kill my grandparents. The countries which took less measures in March are seeing a similar increase in cases to the rest of the world now. Although even Sweden did tell people to stay at home, socially distance, etc. They just didn't lock down. And they are still on a similar trajectory RE cases and deaths as the rest of the world. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2899 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 21, 2020 04:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by SecretGeek: I think only the seniors need to be protected.I'm pretty sure almost everyone will get Covid except for a few mountain hermits.
Yeah, I think so too Secretgeek, that we will almost all get it at some point. But we definitely need to protect the same people who are at risk of serious disease from flu. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2899 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 21, 2020 04:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Linda Jones: @ Viox Oh the mandates are coming, you can bet on it. It's the slow boiling of the frog in water. They put the squeeze slowly so you don't notice until it's too late.They'll first try the soft approach to get you to take it - scaring you, shaming you, guilt tripping you, telling you it's your patriotic duty to take it (never mind that the "patriotism" that gets thousands of soldiers killed every year, seems to benefit only the elite & never the common people). They will also get religious leaders to "urge" you to take it.
When the soft (manipulative) approach fails, meaning not enough people get it, then will come the mandates.
Oh for sure Linda, the psychological manipulation is well out there, and it's the people doing it to each other. I told someone in my work that I may decline the vaccine and she tried, but failed, to hide the contempt in her face. I don't think they will make it mandatory. That would be unprecedented, at least here in the UK and would raise serious concerns from the people. However, they keep using the phrase 'unprecedented times' - it seems to be the go-to justification for any manner of extreme measures at the moment, so you may be right. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2899 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 21, 2020 04:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Biden is already saying it’s our “patriotic duty” to wear a mask.
Every leader has been using this type of persuasion. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2899 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 21, 2020 05:56 AM
Britain asks regulator to assess Pfizer vaccine for suitability quote: Britain has formally asked its medical regulator, the MHRA, to assess the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for its suitability, the first step in making the shot available outside of the United States.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 134173 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 11:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: I have to disagree Randall. That could kill my grandparents. The countries which took less measures in March are seeing a similar increase in cases to the rest of the world now. Although even Sweden did tell people to stay at home, socially distance, etc. They just didn't lock down. And they are still on a similar trajectory RE cases and deaths as the rest of the world.
We are all on the same trajectory no matter what we do. Isolate those most susceptible as the virus attenuates. We shouldn't isolate the healthy. That's absurd. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2899 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 21, 2020 11:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: We are all on the same trajectory no matter what we do. Isolate those most susceptible as the virus attenuates. We shouldn't isolate the healthy. That's absurd.
I know what you are saying and on the one hand I agree, however, the problem is the minority of individuals who were thought to be 'healthy' and have died, despite being of fairly young age (under 65) with no recorded health conditions. This isn't just from the news, a colleague's nephew died, he was in his twenties with no health problems. IP: Logged |