posted November 21, 2020 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Oh, and sheep are so very careful, they are afraid of their own shadow.

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posted November 21, 2020 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I think they really want to depress people and break them emotionally and mentally, so much so that people will be ready, body and mind ready, to be vaccinated by force, covid passport tagged if they want to move around, and become the good compliant sheep they need for the Great Reset they are trying to implement.

Along with the mask obsession which muzzles people, this is part of obedience training, psychological mass warfare.

Humanity is as a crossroad. Will it let this cabal reshape its destiny?

ETA: answering my own question: NO! This attempt at enslaving humanity will not succeed.

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posted November 22, 2020 01:32 AM            

With the covid 19 virus it has
yet to be determined the longevity
of the T cell...
I've been trying to figure this out
since you posted, Randall, with
very many interruptions...

I got that info from Science Magazine.
I found all the information I came
across very confusing!

..and my gut=tug is telling me that
this vaccine is not going to work
long term...

posted November 22, 2020 03:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
A sheep is someone who entrust his life to someone else to make fundamental decisions affecting its life, decisions that can be changed on that someone's whim. Oh, and sheep are so very careful, they are afraid of their own shadow.

ETA: A sheep is not a bad person or a lesser person. It is just someone who is comfortable letting others make fundamental decisions for him. Someone who doesn't value its freedom, and who prefers security to freedom. That's ok.

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It think also to add what your saying, that people who are coined ‘sheep’ are people who take on other peoples opinions, and follow other people’s beliefs without judgment and follow aimlessly. They still make decisions nonetheless.

These people sit on all sides of the fence. Trying to portray that ‘sheep’ are limited to one group may be naive.

posted November 22, 2020 03:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Sheep unquestioningly do what they are told.

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Well, I don't do that. Keep on with the pokes, though. It's fine. I also don't jump at my own shadow.

posted November 22, 2020 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by ballerina:
Somewhere I read that people who have
gotten the virus, lose the antibodies
they created within a couple of months,
thus leaving them able to contract
the virus again.
Which then leads me to wondering how
a vaccine is going to work, and for
how long!?
Why don't we ever hear anything about
people being immune!?

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posted November 22, 2020 03:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
T cell immunity is forever. Getting COVID would be preferable for the young and healthy.

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posted November 22, 2020 03:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I didn’t call anyone a sheep. I said what sheep do. Do as we say. Don’t question. Don’t think.

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posted November 22, 2020 04:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I am only speaking of the US. I cannot speak of the whole world and how it deals with Covid.

It was in the US that all Covid crowd gathering restrictions were suddenlly lifted to allow protesters to take to the streets many of them without masks and without observing social distancing after the video on the death of George Floyd surfaced. Prior to that, we had been repeatedly told there should be NO outside gathering of more than 10 to 25 people.

When people objected to the demonstraitions and said, what about the pandemic, many elected officials, democrats of course proclaimed: Racism is a pandemic! therefore it was fine to be out there exericising the constitutional right to protest.

So, regardless of what's happening in other countries, I expect the officials here in the US to reverse course on crowd gathering and curfews, and allow people to protest at any and all hours of the day and night if as I said, it looks like Trump is winning. Course reversal happened before and will happen again. Covid restrictions have become political.

I hope that answers your question.

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posted November 22, 2020 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
It think also to add what your saying, that people who are coined ‘sheep’ are people who take on other peoples opinions, and follow other people’s beliefs without judgment and follow aimlessly. They still make decisions nonetheless.

These people sit on all sides of the fence. Trying to portray that ‘sheep’ are limited to one group may be naive.

You could argue that people who follow a religion are ‘sheep’

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I totally agree with you that sheep can sit on all sides of the fence. Human beings have a tendency to prefer others to do their thinking for them.

Your argument about religion is certainly thought provoking and here are my thoughts:

By its very nature, following a religion implies relinquinshing a certain amount of critical thinking to embrace ideas that seem to emanate from a "higher authority." This is where faith comes in. And you are right. Religious people are sheep to their faith. Spiritual people are sheep to their faith. As someone who was atheist for a good 10 years, then returned to believing and experimented with various religious, I can readily admit that.

While I will willingfully and consciously be a sheep to a higher authority or force, I will not be a sheep to a fellow human being, certainly not to a health czar or a politician that protects a health system that profits from illness and sickness.

And, do not think atheists are off the hook on being sheep. Having been an atheist for 10 years, I can attest that as an atheist, one can be a sheep to ideologies that claim they will fix the world's ills through government intervention, such as communism and socialism, science. etc... and now the Great Reset.

posted November 22, 2020 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Thanks for explaining Belage. And yes, I do agree that a pandemic is a situation with masses of potential for exploitation, just like any 'crisis'. Who lifted the restrictions on crowd-gathering?

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Voix, evidence of this bait and switch is all over the US.

Here is a article that details some of what happened in New York where Mayor DiBlasio and governor Cuomo ended up being sued by religious communities for the double standard:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-cuomo-de-blasio-coronavirus-discrimination-lawsuit

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Among many violations cited, the group points out de Blasio ignoring social distancing and the 10-person limit when he didn't wear a face mask on June 4 while attending and addressing a mass political gathering at New York City's Cadman Plaza. Days later, in Williamsburg, Hasidic Jewish children were kicked out of a park by a police officer enforcing Cuomo and de Blasio's 10-person limit on "non-essential gatherings."

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The same scenario was repeated throughout all the blue cities/states where you had heavy protest presence. How do you think so many people were able to gather together to protest if it was not condoned by the authorities that had previously put limit on crowd gathering?

posted November 22, 2020 12:44 PM            

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The same scenario was repeated throughout all the blue cities/states where you had heavy protest presence. How do you think so many people were able to gather together to protest if it was not condoned by the authorities that had previously put limit on crowd gathering?

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I get that Belage, but equally people were encouraged to gather at rallies for Mr Trump, so both sides are confusing the situation from where I am sitting.

posted November 22, 2020 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I get that Belage, but equally people were encouraged to gather at rallies for Mr Trump, so both sides are confusing the situation from where I am sitting.

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Which timeline are you speaking of?

I don't know of any rallies for Trump that were encouraged (and by what authorities??) before June 2020, before the BLM protests took over and the covid lockdown restrictions about group gathering flew wide open.

There were some right wing anti-lockdown (some of them armed ) groups that gathered to protest, but they were always excoriated by the media, and their gathering did not cause anti lockdown restrictions to be lifted.

posted November 22, 2020 01:55 PM            

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Which timeline are you speaking of?

I don't know of any rallies for Trump that were encouraged (by what authorities??) before June 2020, before the BLM protests took over and the covid lockdown restrictions about group gathering flew wide open.

Can you provide more information?

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Mass gatherings have been banned in the UK since the March lockdown. I was seeing news about rallies in the US over the last few months, basically right through the peak of the pandemic? Sorry, perhaps it's because our political systems are a bit different, but when someone speaks of 'authorities', to my mind that includes the prime minister, first minister, or in the case of the US, the president?

It's the prime minister and the first minister of Scotland (and the other 3 devolved government leaders) who have been creating and enforcing the COVID-19 guidelines and legislation in tandem with their scientific advisors. Therefore it was our authorities who banned mass gatherings.