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Topic: We Must Follow The Science!
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 134339 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 01:39 AM
What do curfews have to do with COVID? Does the virus become more virulent at night? If 29.8 percent contracted COVID from a grocery store, but only 1 percent from dine-in restaurants, why are those restaurants being closed? IP: Logged |
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 2798 From: Dallas Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 21, 2020 02:53 AM
Obviously, something much more sinister at work here.Probably too sickening to discuss. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 03:39 AM
What on earth could be sinister about it?IP: Logged |
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 2798 From: Dallas Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 21, 2020 03:41 AM
I've read some stories.Far worse than just a man winning office. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3565 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 04:04 AM
I think they really want to depress people and break them emotionally and mentally, so much so that people will be ready, body and mind ready, to be vaccinated by force, covid passport tagged if they want to move around, and become the good compliant sheep they need for the Great Reset they are trying to implement. Along with the mask obsession which muzzles people, this is part of obedience training, psychological mass warfare. Humanity is as a crossroad. Will it let this cabal reshape its destiny? ETA: answering my own question: NO! This attempt at enslaving humanity will not succeed. ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 04:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: I think they really want to depress people and break them emotionally and mentally, so much so that people will be ready, body and mind ready, to be vaccinated by force, covid passport tagged if they want to move around, and become the good compliant sheep they need for the Great Reset they are trying to implement. Along with the mask obsession which muzzles people, this is part of obedience training, psychological mass warfare. Humanity is as a crossroad. Will it let this cabal reshape its destiny?
Out of everyone in this forum, I can't believe that *you* believe this. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3565 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 05:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Out of everyone in this forum, I can't believe that *you* believe this.
You must be confusing me with someone else. My posts have been pretty consistent.
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2932 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 21, 2020 05:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: What do curfews have to do with COVID? Does the virus become more virulent at night? If 29.8 percent contracted COVID from a grocery store, but only 1 percent from dine-in restaurants, why are those restaurants being closed?
Our government has been clear that we cannot 'remove' the virus. Measures are designed to reduce risk of transmission, not eradicate it, whilst trying to preserve as many jobs as possible. I entered a pub while they were open and supposed to be socially distancing inside. NO ONE inside was adhering to the rules and staff weren't trying to enforce them. So, without a doubt, they just became hot spots. A curfew reduces the amount of time people people have to flout the guidance, thereby reducing the transmission rate without totally rough-shodding businesses. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 05:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: You must be confusing me with someone else. My posts have been pretty consistent.
I'm not talking about recently. I'm just having some trouble understanding certain people I know, believing it all. It makes no sense to me. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 05:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: Our government has been clear that we cannot 'remove' the virus. Measures are designed to reduce risk of transmission, not eradicate it, whilst trying to preserve as many jobs as possible.I entered a pub while they were open and supposed to be socially distancing inside. NO ONE inside was adhering to the rules and staff weren't trying to enforce them. So, without a doubt, they just became hot spots. A curfew reduces the amount of time people people have to flout the guidance, thereby reducing the transmission rate without totally rough-shodding businesses.
We've had the same thing going on here, although some businesses are good with the few basic requirements. I also saw a post from a woman who said that keeping restaurants open wouldn't help them in the long run - that closing down for a few weeks, making sure that everyone can afford to stay home, and ensuring that the spread of the virus slows significantly - that would help them to keep afloat. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 05:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by SecretGeek: Obviously, something much more sinister at work here.Probably too sickening to discuss.
I had a freaky dream, a couple of months ago, that I lived in a city, instead of the rural area I'm in, and that we were getting bombed with some kind of gas. I was yelling at my parents to shut the windows, as I saw one explode outside of our building, and I saw a woman, her husband, and dog outside across the road - the woman was getting sick. A friend of mine said that she'd had similar dreams, and I know what she's thinking (it's along the lines of what some people here would be thinking). What I want to know is: how do you know it isn't a group sent by someone like Alex Jones, who has you convinced that the government wants to hurt you? They could do anything, and blame it on the government (the democrats, since Trump is apparently a saint). People like Alex Jones, make a lot of money off of this sort of thing, too. Their stories, the fear that they're selling you. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3565 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 05:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I'm not talking about recently. I'm just having some trouble understanding certain people I know, believing it all. It makes no sense to me.
I am having trouble understanding why anyone would think it is okay to have the long arm of the state or government taking away so many of your liberties without questioning the ulterior motives.I can assure you that in about 7-10days, about the time of the full moon eclipse in Gemini conjunct US natal Uranus, when Trump will look like he might actually win his bid for a second term against all odds, these elected officials and health dictators will quickly reverse course and allow people to be out in the streets "peacefully" protesting at any and all hours of the day and night. That is why I take all those restrictions with the proverbial grain of salt. ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 134339 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 11:36 AM
There is no pandemic exception in the Bill of Rights. Period.IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2932 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 21, 2020 11:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: I am having trouble understanding why anyone would think it is okay to have the long arm of the state or government taking away so many of your liberties without questioning the ulterior motives.I can assure you that in about 7-10days, about the time of the full moon eclipse in Gemini conjunct US natal Uranus, when Trump will look like he might actually win his bid for a second term against all odds, these elected officials and health dictators will quickly reverse course and allow people to be out in the streets "peacefully" protesting at any and all hours of the day and night. That is why I take all those restrictions with the proverbial grain of salt. ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
The restrictions affect the whole world. Since when did the US election dictate whether the UK government lies about the measures required to control a pandemic, or any other government anywhere else in the world for that matter? ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/confused.gif) IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: [QUOTE]Originally posted by teasel: [b] I'm not talking about recently. I'm just having some trouble understanding certain people I know, believing it all. It makes no sense to me.
I am having trouble understanding why anyone would think it is okay to have the long arm of the state or government taking away so many of your liberties without questioning the ulterior motives.I can assure you that in about 7-10days, about the time of the full moon eclipse in Gemini conjunct US natal Uranus, when Trump will look like he might actually win his bid for a second term against all odds, these elected officials and health dictators will quickly reverse course and allow people to be out in the streets "peacefully" protesting at any and all hours of the day and night. That is why I take all those restrictions with the proverbial grain of salt. [/B][/QUOTE] Do you mean when Trump attempts to steal the election, because he can’t and won’t accept that he lost? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 134339 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 02:40 PM
If you listen to the resetters, you will know why. Globalism. Getting rid of President Trump is a global effort. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 02:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: If you listen to the resetters, you will know why. Globalism. Getting rid of President Trump is a global effort.
No, I won’t listen to BS conspiracy theories. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3565 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 02:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: The restrictions affect the whole world. Since when did the US election dictate whether the UK government lies about the measures required to control a pandemic, or any other government anywhere else in the world for that matter? ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/confused.gif)
I am only speaking of the US. I cannot speak of the whole world and how it deals with Covid. It was in the US that all Covid crowd gathering restrictions were suddenlly lifted to allow protesters to take to the streets many of them without masks and without observing social distancing after the video on the death of George Floyd surfaced. Prior to that, we had been repeatedly told there should be NO outside gathering of more than 10 to 25 people. When people objected to the demonstraitions and said, what about the pandemic, many elected officials, democrats of course proclaimed: Racism is a pandemic! therefore it was fine to be out there exericising the constitutional right to protest. So, regardless of what's happening in other countries, I expect the officials here in the US to reverse course on crowd gathering and curfews, and allow people to protest at any and all hours of the day and night if as I said, it looks like Trump is winning. Course reversal happened before and will happen again. Covid restrictions have become political. I hope that answers your question. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 02:56 PM
A lot of protesters wore masks, and did their best safety-wise. Who was out and about over a month before them? The idiots with guns, stating that their rights were being infringed. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3565 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 02:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: A lot of protesters wore masks, and did their best safety-wise. Who was out and about over a month before them? The idiots with guns, stating that their rights were being infringed.
Not in the beginning many did not! And if all it takes to be outside is to wear masks and to maintain social distancing, why are large gatherings now prohibited also outside? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 134339 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 02:59 PM
Conspiracy theories? This is right out of Bloomberg’s mouth and the other leaders who attended. They are telling us exactly what they plan. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3565 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 03:43 PM
@ Voix_de_la_Mer, let me add that in New York, during and after the George Floyd protests, contract tracers were forbidden to pro-actively ask people who tested positive for Covid about their attendance at protests. That alone should tell you how political Covid had become in the US. Again, I cannot speak for outside the US. ETA: Prior to those incidents, I had abandoned my initial conspiracy theories and I had joined the rank of obedient and trusting citizen letting the health and political authorities decide their fate. After that, I could no longer be one of the sheep. If the restrictions really mattered, they should have been uphelded George Floyd crisis or not. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 04:04 PM
I don't know anyone who fits the status of "sheep" because they're being careful. Not one person, including myself. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16514 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 04:06 PM
It became political over a month before the protests started. I know, I was scared that people were going to get shot, because some of us didn't want to wear a mask. Also because the president was out there encouraging them to do so.IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3565 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2020 05:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I don't know anyone who fits the status of "sheep" because they're being careful. Not one person, including myself.
A sheep is someone who entrust his life to someone else to make fundamental decisions affecting its life, decisions that can be changed on that someone's whim. Oh, and sheep are so very careful, they are afraid of their own shadow. ETA: A sheep is not a bad person or a lesser person. It is just someone who is comfortable letting others make fundamental decisions for him. Someone who doesn't value its freedom, and who prefers security to freedom. That's ok.
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