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mirage29
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posted December 16, 2020 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Written by: Conner Alan

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On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing. Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.

Remember, Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today, but that means nothing.


The author Conner Alan, credited for the article {?reference?}, had quoted someone else's text, at the point of copy-pasting.

"Attributed to Jenna Ellis, a lawyer who represented U.S. President Donald Trump during his unsuccessful attempts to overturn the general election results, the text held [the opinion] that Republicans could raise — and uphold — objections during the joint session of Congress in January, which is convened to count the certified ballots submitted by the states:"


There are mistakes in understanding exactly what happens on Jan 6th, by C. Alan/J.Ellis.

CERTIFYING "The Count"
Electors in each State "ascertained" {Certified} the results of individual votes cast during the election. The Will of The People for choice of president and vice president was completed and "Certified" a few days ago, December 14.

Results: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were 'certified' as the next President and Vice President, to be sworn into office at Noon on January 20, 2021.

THE COUNT
What happens Jan 6, is verifying the number of envelopes they have (the ascertained certified-ballots from each State). These will be brought to Congress for January 6. {Probably, for placing these 'physically' into the vaults, the historical archives.}

VICE PRESIDENT'S POWER
"..the role played by 'Vice President' Mike Pence (as the president of the Senate) in this process is largely ceremonial and formal,
and he has no real discretion to determine the outcome."

- http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/electoral-votes-rejected-congress/


Attributed to Benjamin Franklin, as he left Independence Hall, on the final day of deliberation.

“Well, Doctor, what have we got—-
a Republic or a Monarchy?”

Answer:
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”

- http://www.bartleby.com/73/1593.html

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Signing of The Constitution
The United States of America
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Nation:_USA_No.5

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posted December 16, 2020 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>>Any impartial observer can see that there was widespread fraud and that without it, Trump won the popular vote. So the will of the majority who voted for Trump is being ignored.


You should separate trees from the forest. Popular votes don't count. Even in the game of ping pong a losing player can win more more points than his opponent but still lost because he lost more games (sets in tennis) than his opponent. This is reality. Look at the big picture.

Each state has a cap in the number of electoral votes they can cast. In those days it was the number of Gold they provided to the central government. Much has not changed since. In reality it should be based on GDP of each state but it isn't. Ask the Lord of the bible i.e "Anu" to have the much needed change lol. Request Enki our homes are getting old and not energy efficient anymore. Biden has plans for those old homes and I hope we don't have to evacuate the planet.

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posted December 16, 2020 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Randall
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posted December 16, 2020 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the point--the logs were manually deleted. We presume by an Admin.

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posted December 16, 2020 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
@Belage:
Yes, I am a Computer Science Expert among other things.

I can assure you that if Dominion Management Says to Courts that "Logs are Missing" only for Nov 3rd and Nov 4th, then they are liars.

Software Logs cannot vanish unless explicitly deleted from the Admin Panel. And every Database even maintains logs of who was the Admin, when Admin logged in, when Admin logged out and even logs every task taken up by the Admin. This is managed from the Operating System Level, whether Microsoft or Linux or IBM or Apple, it is the same Algorithm.

Coming to missing data, Data is still recoverable because no Hard Disk data gets erased by the Operating System, the file zones with the data are marked as "Deleted" meaning other data can be written there in the future, which can take years considering the huge Terra Byte Storage available these days. The only way to destroy data so that even Forensic Teams cannot retrieve it using Assembly Level Tools, is to overwrite the entire Hard Disk with Junk Data a 100 times at least, from 0 to 1 Terrabyte Range. Like "Bleach Bit" kind of stuff.

And here is the best part, if Dominion did something like that, then even that will be logged in by the Admin Panel, even if done remotely. As it has to be an Executable File run from a remote location, as any local person doing this will be caught on CCTV.


So you see, there is Absolutely no escape if any kind of Data Audit Mischief has been attempted. They just cannot hide any evidence, and will have to go to prison etc.

However, the Cybersecurity Divisions of NSA and US Military [I am assuming CIA is corrupt as hell and FBI is incompetent] would have seized the Machine Hard Disks by Nov 5th itself if they had any suspicion.

Now this is where my other expertise about USA tells me that odds of mischief are very less [not impossible, just far far lesser than Trump and Maga is bellowing about].
American Military Intelligence in the 1960s murdered Che Guevara because Satellites picked up the little gas stove he used to warm some soup or tea, inside a dense forest.

Can you imagine how it is now? The level of Surveillance by 5 Eyes, NSA etc is 10-15 years ahead of what we get to study in Universities. If even a single Dominion Employee had uttered a word about fraud in his home or office or SMS or Mobile Conversation, then it has been picked up by Multiple Agencies. That is the level of surveillance power available [Like shown in the fictional TV series "Person of Interest" starring Jim Caviezel].

For Dominion to have pulled off this colossal scale of Mischief/Fraud AND for no knowledge of this with the Trillion Dollar US Military Surveillance Infrastructure, the only way is for Telepathic Conversation between Teleporting Dominion Employees. Or an Extra Terrestrial Hand.

Trump directly selected every expert and Judge. Trump was allegedly asked by Pentagon to run for President. Why would Pentagon and Trump's hired experts and Trump's appointed Judges let him down? Trump is not some great Super Human talent that would come in the way of the Deep State, he is no big deal for such a Grand 5th D Conspiracy against him.
Hence by Occam's Razor of looking at the simplest explanation, Trump just lost because American Voters were fed up of his Narcissism and Pandemic Mismanagement/Excuses which took 300000 lives.

Do you think Biden will do a miraculous great job? Hell No! He has 47 years of incompetence as a record. Biden just got lucky for being in the right place at the right time. No decent human being likes a braggart or rude bully, and sadly that is what Trump is. Hence, he got dumped.
Had a Mitt Romney been the GOP Candidate this time, GOP would have won 400+ Electoral College Votes. They did very well in the other seats.


IQ,

I appreciate you sharing your expertise with the rest of us.

I did not quite understand your statement "I can assure you that if Dominion Management Says to Courts that "Logs are Missing" only for Nov 3rd and Nov 4th, then they are liars.' It is not Dominion who is saying the logs are missing, It is those who did the forensic audits who say the logs are missing. And Dominion is not in Courts for the time being. Perhaps there was a typo in that statement you made?..

Now, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that it is near impossible for security logs to be missing.

And you are saying that in the off chance they would be missing, the Cybersecurity Divisions of NSA and US Military would have seized the Machine Hard Disks by Nov 5th itself if they had any suspicion.

Okay. I truly appreciate you chiming in and hearing your expert's opinion.

Wishing you well!

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posted December 16, 2020 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our hearts aren’t broken, lamb chop. We are not sad. Know the difference.

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posted December 17, 2020 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<<I did not quite understand your statement "I can assure you that if Dominion Management Says to Courts that "Logs are Missing" only for Nov 3rd and Nov 4th, then they are liars.' It is not Dominion who is saying the logs are missing, It is those who did the forensic audits who say the logs are missing. And Dominion is not in Courts for the time being. Perhaps there was a typo in that statement you made?..>>
Thanks Belage, what I am saying is that WHOSOEVER claims that there are no logs or it is not possible to retrieve them is a liar.
As an example I said Dominion Management.
If Forensic Auditors are saying that, then they better press charges and find out how the logs are missing.

And if any of these liars tried deleting the logs, it would be easily discovered by NSA/US Military Intelligence already. As in several weeks ago due to the sophistication of Surveillance available, including SIGINT which I had forgotten to mention. In 1998, Pentagon was able to reconstruct a Computer PC Screen of a target from 500 feet away. Imagine today.

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posted December 17, 2020 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks Belage, what I am saying is that WHOSOEVER claims that there are no logs or it is not possible to retrieve them is a liar.


........Or, not very good at their job.

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posted December 17, 2020 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is quite interesting Randall, but do you think that in this scenario enough Republicans would vote for Trump for him to get elected? I think there may be a good amount that would turn their backs, for various reasons.

Also, I know this is obvious, but if this scenario played out it would be framed by the media and the Democrats as an attempt to “steal the election” by a “dictator who refuses to leave office.” It wouldn’t matter to them one bit if it was a legitimate process provided for in the Constitution because many of them simply don’t recognize our founding documents as having any real authority. This idea would be an easy sell to many in the public due to their hatred of Trump or due to the fact that during our lifetimes no President has ever been elected in such a manner, so it would seem fraudulent to some simply because we have never seen it happen before. Not all people have the capacity or willingness to understand or accept something that goes outside of the normal course of action. So there would be a major problem with public perception, with many believing that he was not a legitimately elected president, even if technically he would be.

Those are my thoughts :)

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posted December 17, 2020 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Half of all voters thought President Trump was illegitimate anyway, because of Russian interference. But I see your point.

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posted December 17, 2020 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
<<I did not quite understand your statement "I can assure you that if Dominion Management Says to Courts that "Logs are Missing" only for Nov 3rd and Nov 4th, then they are liars.' It is not Dominion who is saying the logs are missing, It is those who did the forensic audits who say the logs are missing. And Dominion is not in Courts for the time being. Perhaps there was a typo in that statement you made?..>>
Thanks Belage, what I am saying is that WHOSOEVER claims that there are no logs or it is not possible to retrieve them is a liar.
As an example I said Dominion Management.
If Forensic Auditors are saying that, then they better press charges and find out how the logs are missing.

And if any of these liars tried deleting the logs, it would be easily discovered by NSA/US Military Intelligence already. As in several weeks ago due to the sophistication of Surveillance available, including SIGINT which I had forgotten to mention. In 1998, Pentagon was able to reconstruct a Computer PC Screen of a target from 500 feet away. Imagine today.



Okay. I appreciate your clarifications.

I looked and can't seem to find any statemment from Dominion or its CEO John Poulos regarding what we are talking about, the very specific claim of missing security logs, though they have made tons of statements regarding other parts of the audits. For instance, they are on record as saying this is a disinformation campaign, they have no connection to Venezuela, there were no switched or deleted votes, etc etc... but nowhere have I seen Poulos or any official statement from Dominion specifically stating that "no logs are missing", that this specific part of the audit is not true...

I would have liked to hear from the horse's mouth how they responded to this specific claim. This is the most damning part of the audits, yet I can't find any reply from Poulos or Dominion regarding it. That's rather puzzling.

If I missed that part of Dominion or Poulos statements, maybe you or someone else, another eagle eye can please direct me to the appropriate link. Much appreciated...

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posted December 18, 2020 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Belage,
I jjst read on Twitter that Dominion is going to file a Defamation Lawsuit against Sidney Powell. This will lead to full fledged Discovery, and if any fraud exists, it will be brought to light.
http://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/dominion-threatens-defamation-lawsuit-for-sidney-powells-election-conspiracy-theories-you-are-not-entitled-to-your-own-facts/artic leshow/79784765.cms

The Truth must come out, and liars must face the music whether it is Team Dominion or Team Powell.

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posted December 18, 2020 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They won’t file. They don’t want discovery.

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posted December 19, 2020 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Hi Belage,
I jjst read on Twitter that Dominion is going to file a Defamation Lawsuit against Sidney Powell. This will lead to full fledged Discovery, and if any fraud exists, it will be brought to light.
[URL=http://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/dominion-threatens-defamation-lawsuit-for-sidney-powells-election-conspiracy-theories-you-are-not-entitled-to-your-own-facts/ artic]http://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/dominion-threatens-defamation-lawsuit-for-sidney-powells-election-conspiracy-theories-you-are-not-entitled-to-your-own-facts /artic[/URL] leshow/79784765.cms

The Truth must come out, and liars must face the music whether it is Team Dominion or Team Powell.


Yes, it would be great to separate the lies from the truths or the half truths. If Dominion does file a defamation suit, it will take a while before verdict is rendered one way or the other. By that time, we would have alread installed a president, whoever that will be.

It is interesting that Dominion is not threatening to file a lawsuit against the team that did the forensic audits of its Antrim machines...

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posted December 27, 2020 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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After five years of lies to try to take down President Trump, now you want to let the country “attempt to heal”?

The words ring hollow and the people who say them are disingenuous.

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posted December 27, 2020 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They won’t file. They don’t want discovery.

Exactly!

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