posted January 09, 2021 08:24 AM            

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Yeah yeah
And you all just ignore the fact that CDC records do not show a rise of 350000 deaths.the number of deaths in 2020 was on par with the last 10 years..
I'm sure there are new deaths.this hoax was started by a bioweapon which they can still use to increase the cases of interstitial pulmonary fungal infection.and you all to ignore the fact that the CDC could not infect human cells with the corona virus nor have they even been able to isolate it.
This hoax is exactly like 911...no scientific facts at all.and it is doing the same thing..stripping us of all constitutional rights

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Unproven claims of COVID-19 being a hoax belong in the Spiderline forum Todd, not a thread about UK COVID-19 news in GU.

posted January 10, 2021 11:43 AM              

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Humansarefree.com

Woman arrested after filming sides of a empty hostipal while people were being denied treatment

She filmed empty wards and rooms at Gloucestershire royal hospital

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Not UK based, but was listening to a local radio station recently and the disk jockey (? do they still use that term?) mentioned that he has been calling around to the various local hospitals and asking the ICU's there how things are. He said they are always suspicious "whos calling" and don't seem to want to tell him anything, but eventually most of them tell him that no, they are not at or near capacity and that things are fairly quiet. But then he goes on to say, get the vaccine yadayada, so..

I have a friend that works at a hospital and he has said the same thing, and he's not part of the right, not a Trump supporter, etc. But being a skeptical minded Cap Sun, he has started to question the official narrative some.

I agree there are fishy things going on, and there are major holes in the official narrative like there are for 9/11 as well (in that case, holes big enough to drive a Mac truck through), but please don't call it a hoax. It's clear that there is some sort of new/mutated virus and that it is moderately bad for a small percentage of the population and severe for an even smaller percentage. Granted, a good percentage of this population could also be adversely affected by things like flu, pneumonia, and sometimes even the common cold.

We don't need to go to extremes in searching and digging for the bigger truth.

posted January 10, 2021 04:37 PM            

Covid-19 deaths account for around 50% of the bodies.

posted January 10, 2021 05:30 PM              

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Originally posted by Graham:
Infections now 1 person in 16 in some parts of London, UK.

This hoax is a killer.

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Infection rate doesn't determine the severity of a pandemic. There have been several noted Epidemiologists and/or Microbiologists (Wittkowski, Ioannidis, Bhakdi, Wodarg, etc) that are on record for saying that this pandemic is not as severe as corporate media and governmental institutions are trying to portray it as, and most of these have also strongly questioned and/or criticized some of the various measures to "contain" same.

I remember hearing awhile back that thousands of medically trained professionals got together and signed a statement that they disagree with many of the measures of government(s) in response to this. This is the first time in human history that we have quarantined not just the sick and vulnerable, but the entire population and it is, and more so will have, disastrous effects on the common person economically while the plutocrats and already rich are buying up all the land, properties, debts of the increasingly shrinking middle class and poor, etc.

We're not hearing things like this too much in the corporate media because the plutocrats want maximum fear, because maximum fear = potential for maximum control. Same old song and dance that John Lennon use to sing about and point out, such as in "Working Class Hero", i.e. "you think you're so clever, classless and free, but you're still f'ing peasants as far as I can see." Never were more true words spoken.

With all due respect Graham, I suggest you're likely being a little naive to the true intentions of those in power and in the power structures. For example, in the US, we just received our second "stimulus" payment. 600 dollars, the last one being in April which was 1200. It is a complete and utter joke..a sick, sadist joke. This was never about "protecting" people, if it was, then us commoners would have been far more supported all along rather than corporations. Media frames it solely as conflict and disagreement between left and right political sides, but really it is more so that most of these politicians just don't really care either way.

Meanwhile, politicians left and right globally have been caught breaking their own proposed rules, or flaunting their wealth and privilege like Nancy Pelosi going on a late night show to appear "relatable" to the struggles of the common person with her 12 dollar pints of icecream and 11, 000 dollar fridge and freezer combo, and giggling about how these expensive chocolate icecreams are helping her to get through. So relatable and so unbelievably tone deaf to the plight of many families who are more and more lining up at food banks.

We live in a corrupt world where lies are called truth and truths are called lies. This is one of the reasons why the Creative Forces will be intervening in the near future and tearing it all asunder to have humanity start from scratch. Humanity currently is far, far, far too influenced and manipulated by psychopathic plutocrats. It is stifling our collective growth and spiritual development, not to mention polluting the shite out of this world.

posted January 10, 2021 05:49 PM              

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The County of Surrey reported today that it's hospital morgues are now full ... and temporary morgues are being created to store the excess bodies.

Covid-19 deaths account for around 50% of the bodies.

Nevertheless, people are still not complying with the lockdown restrictions ... because they think Covid-19 is fake news.

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Just because 50% of bodies may have SARS-CoV-2 infections in same post or pre death, doesn't mean that they solely or even primarily died from same. Then we have to consider age and health levels of these folks, and whether or not other things like flu, pneumonia, common cold, etc could have also facilitated the death of the body or not absent Covid or in combo with same (as the body can have multiple infections at once).

Because, it is all quite relative by what measuring standards we are using and looking at. It seems that corporate media is constantly focusing on the most extreme and scary interpretation of data. And what is the old saying, "half truths are worse than whole lies for they can deceive even the Soul."

That was the motto of professional propagandists like Sigmund Freud's nephew Edward Bernays. Bernays btw, was extremely well connected among the plutocrat types and literally wrote a book called "Propaganda" and stated the following in said book, “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.

...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”

(Bernays by accounts of loved ones, apparently was not a very pleasant fellow and had clear narcissistic or anti social traits in his treatment of others near and "dear" to him).

Meanwhile, it is a known fact that social media outlets like Youtube (Google) and Facebook have taken down videos of DOCTORS talking critically about the Covid narrative and corporate media version. Why the suppression of dissenting views from medically trained professionals if the mainstream narrative is so true and beyond reproach?

If one cannot smell anything fishy going on, then perhaps one's sense of smell needs to be checked?

Again, it is not a hoax, and not completely "fake news", but it is certainly being exaggerated and sensationalized to the nth degree for the purpose of, "let no good crisis go to waste" being the motto of those enmeshed in the power structures of the world.

I still don't personally know a single person who has died or even have been severely sick from this virus. But if we were to believe corporate media, it is something like out of The Stand and people are dropping left and right on the streets.

And again, I have a friend who works in a hospital right outside of a major, major city area and he says that things have been more or less quiet all along. He is not the type to lie or exaggerate. He is a grounded, skeptical Cap Sun, Virgo Rising type (with his ASC ruler, Mercury also in Capricorn). And again, he is not part of the right, not a Trump supporter, etc.

I believe friends I actually know well, over some face on the telly, especially when I know that some research has been done showing that media is one of the top 10 preferred professions of those in the ASPD spectrum (i.e. psychopathic or sociopathic).

We have to look at all events, especially those of a global nature, within a larger context and framework and ascertain "do the power structures potentially benefit from these societal changes?" The clear answer in this case is a resounding YES. Increased surveillance, increased psychological and physical control of the masses, and as mentioned--buying up the debts, properties, etc of the shrinking middle class and growing poor, sales of millions and millions of "necessary" (but poorly tested) vaccines, etc.

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THE majority of Scottish nurses are willing to take strike action while feeling undervalued by government with one in three forced to skip meals to feed their family or to save money during the coronavirus crisis.

That is the "shocking" conclusion of a new study which exposes a worsening crisis during the Covid-19 pandemic in Scotland with nearly all frontline key workers saying they are suffering mental health issues.

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posted January 11, 2021 05:52 AM            

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Prof Whitty told BBC One's Breakfast: "This is everybody's problem. Any single unnecessary contact you have with someone is a potential link in a chain of transmission that will lead to a vulnerable person."

He said there were over 30,000 people [in English hospitals alone] with Covid-19 - compared to about 18,000 [in England] at the peak last April.

He added that "anybody who is not shocked" by the number of people in hospital "has not understood this at all".

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posted January 11, 2021 12:48 PM            

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There will always be people who exploit a pandemic for financial gain.

However, Covid-19 is killing by diverting UK staff resources from non-covid patients that need the NHS to keep them alive.

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Indeed. We are being skinned in more ways than one.

posted January 11, 2021 08:13 PM              

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There will always be people who exploit a pandemic for financial gain.

However, Covid-19 is killing by diverting UK staff resources from non-covid patients that need the NHS to keep them alive.

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That's a good point Graham, and thank you for pointing that out. It's similar in the states as well from what I've heard. In fact, some of the doctors that have been silenced on major social media platforms have been trying to bring up this issue--that they have more patients dying of non-Covid issues because they are not getting the help they need.

I'm sorry for my overly strong and personal words earlier. I've been feeling a quiet but building up fury in relation to these world events, and especially in relation to the plutocrats of the world.

E.C.'s guidance talked a fair amount about the different cycles/epochs of Atlantis and how before the various different destructions and break ups, there was a cycle of two main groups at war with each other.

One group was called the Children of the Law of One. They were spiritual based. They believed in a Creator, believed in Love/Oneness, and positive service to others. Ethics and morality was their base and ideals.

Then his guidance talked about the other main group who they called the "Sons of Belial" who were the materialists, ego centered, who liked and tried to create systems of slavery, they had no ethics, no standards, they were basically what we would call today plutocrats and/or who had malignant narcissism, sociopathy, or psychopathy. They caused society and the masses many problems and their destructive energies either directly or indirectly led to the destructions of Atlantis (along with earth and cosmic changes) at various different cycles over 200, 000 or so years (with 5 major destructions).

This source indicated that many Souls with strong Atlantean energies/memories were incarnating in our times for weal or woe, and especially indicated that America in particular was sort of a Atlantis reincarnated. This is why they gave strong warnings to the world and especially to and for America.

It just feels like these things are repeating, and I'm just really tired of this same old song and dance. I wish humanity would wake up and not allow these types in positions of immense power and influence.

posted January 12, 2021 05:23 PM            

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The Covid pandemic has caused excess deaths to rise to their highest level in the UK since World War Two.

There were close to 697,000 deaths in 2020 - nearly 85,000 more than would be expected based on the average in the previous five years.

This represents an increase of 14% - making it the largest rise in excess deaths for more than 75 years.

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posted January 13, 2021 08:21 AM            

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NICOLA Sturgeon has tightened lockdown rules including around takeaways and the consumption of alcohol.

The First Minister said the situation facing Scotland remains "very precarious and extremely serious".

She announced tougher rules for takeaway and click and collect retail services, as well as banning drinking alcohol outdoors in public in level four coronavirus areas.

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posted January 14, 2021 04:58 AM            

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LONDON (Reuters) - People who have had COVID-19 are highly likely to have immunity to it for at least five months but there is evidence that those with antibodies may still be able to carry and spread the virus, a UK study of healthcare workers has found.

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posted January 14, 2021 07:02 PM            

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Humansarefree.com

Woman arrested after filming sides of a empty hostipal while people were being denied treatment

She filmed empty wards and rooms at Gloucestershire royal hospital

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posted January 15, 2021 07:00 AM            

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This happened 6 months ago in the US.the media shouted about chaos in the hospitals but several citizens filmed the situation different t.here in concord can about 6 months ago I asked 3 separate nurse aboht thief wards and all said the was no feeding frenzy.of course this is anecdotal and not reliable, but when MSM has done nothing but lie about the scientific facts,i reflect on the fact that the MSM get 60% of their revenue from pharmaceutical corporation commercials.no wonder the vaccines can do not harm in the eyes of the MSM

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I'm more concerned about London which is in a state of emergency, than some empty hospital in Gloucestershire. Plus I already told you before, my son is working in a COVID-19 lab in a hospital, he is a more reliable source of what's going on. Many people are very sick with COVID-19, and UK hospitals are under tremendous pressure.

Anyone can say anything and make up any story and pass it off as truth. You have to choose what to believe. I choose my son who is actually working in the hospitals and has no agenda with the information he gives me, over any of these non-stories any day. You don't even post a link for people to verify the information themselves Todd.

posted January 15, 2021 07:45 AM            

The hospitals were not under pressure from covid19 patients at that time, but were already anticipating a surge in covid infections due to families getting together during the Christmas holiday period.

And then .... this new and highly contagious variant emerged ... resulting in even the best prepared UK hospitals being unable to cope with the surge in cases that is now anticipated during the next fortnight.

Yet ... people still seem unable to grasp that beds are being kept empty because there will not be time to empty them as-and-when needed. ... That would result in people dying before they can be put on the ventilators, and monitored 24/7 by intensive care staff (to ensure sufficient oxygen is reaching their brain).

posted January 16, 2021 08:56 AM            

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LONDON (Reuters) - Coronavirus cases in Britain are showing some signs of levelling off but admissions to hospital are expected to keep rising and will not begin to fall for a few weeks, England’s Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty said on Friday.

“I’m afraid in the next week we do anticipate the number of people in the NHS (National Health Service) and the number of deaths will continue to rise as the effects of what everyone has done take a while to feed through,” Whitty told a news conference.

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posted January 16, 2021 08:58 AM            

Someone close to me has tested positive. They are a young adult though, and despite reporting feeling like death, they are so far managing at home.

posted January 16, 2021 02:32 PM            

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@Graham, I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. I hope he has recovered

Someone close to me has tested positive. They are a young adult though, and despite reporting feeling like death, they are so far managing at home.

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He is ok now, but believes he would have died if not readmitted to intensive care.

posted January 16, 2021 03:21 PM            

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Unproven claims of COVID-19 being a hoax belong in the Spiderline forum Todd, not a thread about UK COVID-19 news in GU.

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posted January 16, 2021 03:41 PM              

I wish more people knew about the importance of alkalinity, which increases oxygenation of the body which is inherently inimical to pathogenic organisms.

I started to get Covid like symptoms back in March. As soon as I noted symptoms, I radically changed my diet to a very highly alkaline reacting one, as well as ate less in general. Mostly ate kale chips, drank coconut water, and ate mixed green salads (NO white vinegar). Within 1.5 days of initial symptoms and starting to feel off, I was completely over all infection and back to nearly my normal self, though a bit more lethargic for like a day or two after that.

I think it was likely Covid because I started to have breathing issues with no accompanying mucous excess which just doesn't and hasn't ever happened to me previously except for when I was very young and had minor asthma for a bit.

Because I am relatively young and fairly healthy, I was never in any real danger, but nipping it in the bud that fast was more due to the increased alkalinity than any amazing and innate super health of this body. This is something that Edgar Cayce's guidance talked A LOT about in their health readings and recommendations, indicating that all or almost all infections can be treated through temporarily inducing increased alkalinity (which though they diddn't say, we know now, creates a higher oxygen potential environment in the body). Have been testing this theory on self (and to a lesser extent my spouse) for some 20+ years and have consistently noted it works and works well.

I don't think my body even had time to form antibodies in response to the infection, or at least not to the degree that it was the antibodies that got rid of same.

posted January 16, 2021 04:36 PM            

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I may be off, but it's my current understanding that ventilators were often exacerbating problems rather than helping them, and a lot of medical organizations have been moving away from them.

I wish more people knew about the importance of alkalinity, which increases oxygenation of the body which is inherently inimical to pathogenic organisms.

I started to get Covid like symptoms back in March. As soon as I noted symptoms, I radically changed my diet to a very highly alkaline reacting one, as well as ate less in general. Mostly ate kale chips, drank coconut water, and ate mixed green salads (NO white vinegar). Within 1.5 days of initial symptoms and starting to feel off, I was completely over all infection and back to nearly my normal self, though a bit more lethargic for like a day or two after that.

I think it was likely Covid because I started to have breathing issues with no accompanying mucous excess which just doesn't and hasn't ever happened to me previously except for when I was very young and had minor asthma for a bit.

Because I am relatively young and fairly healthy, I was never in any real danger, but nipping it in the bud that fast was more due to the increased alkalinity than any amazing and innate super health of this body. This is something that Edgar Cayce's guidance talked A LOT about in their health readings and recommendations, indicating that all or almost all infections can be treated through temporarily inducing increased alkalinity (which though they diddn't say, we know now, creates a higher oxygen potential environment in the body). Have been testing this theory on self (and to a lesser extent my spouse) for some 20+ years and have consistently noted it works and works well.

I don't think my body even had time to form antibodies in response to the infection, or at least not to the degree that it was the antibodies that got rid of same.

Graham, I hope your brother continues to improve.

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You are absolutely spot on about the importance of alkalinity .
I was infected with type L corona virus in October.I had sudden painful coughing fits which migrated from my chest to the base of my tongue.I used salt swallowed a pinch to stop the cough.it worked but on the second morning I started lose my sense of taste and smell,which is now being touted as a specific symptom of this infection, so started taking a pinch every two hours whether I had a cough or not...no more coughing and my senses returned.
I don't know if salt changes one's alkalinity but I am not afraid of the interstitial pulmonary fungal infections now.

As to forced ventilators you are correct,they actually caused reads.one doctor reported 100% of patients placed on forced ventilators died.often after a few weeks or months be cause sedative drugs must be used to keep the tubes in.after weeks or months the person would be brain dead.