posted December 23, 2020 11:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
If you watched real news, you would know that this is precisely what President Trump asked for months ago.

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I’ve hardly watched ANY news, because I’ve been trying to cheer up, but what’s the point? I’m asking people here if it’s possible, that’s all. Why can’t two parties who are supposed to represent and help us, just agree to an amount, and keep it separate?

posted December 23, 2020 11:32 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Trump wants to starve Americans to death.
They could have let this one go and worked on another. But no Trump is playing the power game as typical.

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I thought he asked for $2000 a person, which surprised me. Someone said he had just screwed McConnell over. Tonight, I heard that he vetoed the bill, because of something relating to social media.

posted December 24, 2020 02:41 AM            

One is the NDAA, which has been vetoed. This relates mostly to military expenditures, among other things. The reasons for the veto are documented on the White House website for anyone’s perusal. He mainly wanted legislation regarding section 230 protections that insulate big tech companies from litigation in regards to censorship. In short, Alphabet (Google/YouTube), Twitter, and Facebook are all overtly censoring users and abusing their status as platforms. They are acting as publishers.

The second bill is the coronavirus relief that was bundled with the omnibus spending bill. This one he will veto, barring an increase of the stimulus relief AND removing the copious amount of pork. This bill gives more money in foreign aid than it gives to Americans, which is itself problematic. It takes $2700 dollars out of every Americana’s pocket for the privilege of getting $600 in return. It is also a whopping 5,500+ pages long, and congress was expected to read, comprehend, consider the ramifications, and make a decision on how to vote in the span of a mere four hours. We still don’t know everything included in this, and is a prime example why the concept of “vote to know what’s in it” is inherently flawed. It should be vetoed on principle.

posted December 24, 2020 03:41 AM            

http://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1341812156640227329

Lengthy thread, but gives a good idea how this trash is so wasteful, and not worth the taxes stolen from the people.

Here is another lengthy thread, with even more nonsense buried in the bill:

posted December 24, 2020 03:32 PM            

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Hence Congress wants to own the Fed bank so that this doesn't happen. Billions of dollars were spent on the secret space program during the Bush Jrs presidency and 9/11 event eclipsed the media coverage on that story.

We need to get away from a dictatorial type of government. Trump has no clue what the meat of the issue is. Once again poor leadership as many Americans freeze and die waiting for food. Many homeowners are scared when strangers come in search of food and they don't have a personal gun or live alone.

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posted December 24, 2020 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by LuckyLeo:
“Why can’t they just work on sending people money, separately?”

The short answer is because they are corrupt, Teasel. They use a situation like this, where people are desperate for relief, to pass things they couldn’t otherwise pass and send money to their donors, friends, etc. They slip it in there and figure the public won’t notice or care because the average person doesn’t pay attention to anything more than the fact that they got a check. Teasel, they do stuff like this all the time. They are corrupt.

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posted December 24, 2020 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Trump wants to starve Americans to death.
They could have let this one go and worked on another. But no Trump is playing the power game as typical.

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posted December 24, 2020 03:42 PM            

He, Trump did specify $2,000 per adult Americans along with money to keep businesses open AND a clean bill excluding nonsense bullshiiite money to groups and organizations which haven't seen even one missed paycheck since the China Virus hit America.

Why don't you know that PeeLousy's bullshiite bill was more than 5500 pages of pure pork covering almost everything under the sun...except real help for laid off Americans and businesses to hire them back?

posted December 24, 2020 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
You need to educate yourself on so many aspect of life.

Trump is with Germany and other Elitist whose plans are to wipe out the many in the world who are not productive. Many Americans are dying of hunger and depression. Signs are everywhere of Satan's prince. Germany's chancellor and Russia did not congratulate Biden on his election. Down with fascism in America. We had enough. We are not slaves.

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More blathering bullshiite.

posted December 25, 2020 12:24 AM            

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Why else would they not plan for the stimulus check to arrive in time. They are touching the ssn program, food stamps, what next?

Wake up Jwhop. Nuff of fascism. Boycott those wealthy men who have committed crime against humanity and earth driven by greed.

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posted December 26, 2020 06:32 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
If Trump really wanted to help, why not Sign an Executive Order for 1500-2000 dollars each to every American earning below 40K per annum prior to March 2020, and all those on Unemployment Benefits?
Surely that is possible for the President?

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posted December 26, 2020 07:10 PM            

So right!

Specifically, all spending bills are to originate in the US House of Representatives.

posted December 27, 2020 10:13 AM            

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posted December 27, 2020 11:45 AM            

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Lets assume Congress approves the budget, what is the guarantee that GOP in the Senate signs it? 80-90 million Americans are in dire straits right now on the verge of poverty.
They need money pronto.
If GOP Approves, what is the Guarantee that Trump will sign it or not?
Why make masses suffer just for Ego?

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There are no guarantees both houses of Congress will pass a particular bill. No guarantee the President will sign it either.

In the case of this 5500 page monstrosity..which is twice the size of the inept, incompetent, useless and worthless ObamaCare bill, this cockamamie boondoggle gives billions for ridiculous projects all over the world and very little to help Americans. This bill is supposed to be about Covid 19 relief for Americans.

Additionally, Trump said months ago he wouldn't sign the bill(s) unless social media section 230 exemptions were removed.

posted December 27, 2020 01:19 PM            

But the prez has to sign it. The game of Check and balance being played.