posted January 06, 2021 11:35 PM            

This should spawn worldwide revolt. Hope they don't decapacitate heads as they did during the french revolution.

posted January 08, 2021 11:36 AM            

You're not the victim.

You are the author of your actions.

And you are part of a failed coup by a ****** president who would leave you in the dust the first chance he could - he did it with Barr, with Pence, with Scaramucci, with Bolton, etc.

White Supremicist always want to hit you with one hand, while pointing the finger at a BIPOC for the cause of it.

At least BLM protested to save lives. You broke into a building with selfies, twitch streams, and matching shirts just because you were "broadly upset." You know what you were upset with? You were upset with the fact that your little place of privilege was being challenged.

You know who is truly responsible for any sort of hardship? It's not BIPOC. Here is the spoiler:

SYSTEMIC RACISM

If the leaders can keep you scared (like Trump does) they can pretend to lead you against that threat. When in fact, they don't care about your safety. They care about their power horde. They will turn on you if it serves them.

That doesn't make you a victim though, it makes you a weapon. Everyone who stormed the Whites House was a mindless weapon. Own that. Nobody on the left, no Democrat, not even a talking dog convinced you to do that. You choose to do that after Trump leveraged your fear and anger.

No Antifa was responsible for this. So many people were proudly posting their own selfies and on their own Instagram. Every single one of them, should be in jail. Along with Trump, his family and any Republican Politician that protected him.

posted January 08, 2021 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
The people who attacked the White House play the victim. "You made me do this" and "this is because of leftist/democratcs/BLM/whatever..." Whatever the reason is, you are accountable for your actions. You decided to do this. You are not a victim for breaking into a federal building to deny the Democratic process. Own that.

You're not the victim.

You are the author of your actions.

And you are part of a failed coup by a ****** president who would leave you in the dust the first chance he could - he did it with Barr, with Pence, with Scaramucci, with Bolton, etc.

White Supremicist always want to hit you with one hand, while pointing the finger at a BIPOC for the cause of it.

At least BLM protested to save lives. You broke into a building with selfies, twitch streams, and matching shirts just because you were "broadly upset." You know what you were upset with? You were upset with the fact that your little place of privilege was being challenged.

You know who is truly responsible for any sort of hardship? It's not BIPOC. Here is the spoiler:

SYSTEMIC RACISM

If the leaders can keep you scared (like Trump does) they can pretend to lead you against that threat. When in fact, they don't care about your safety. They care about their power horde. They will turn on you if it serves them.

That doesn't make you a victim though, it makes you a weapon. Everyone who stormed the Whites House was a mindless weapon. Own that. Nobody on the left, no Democrat, not even a talking dog convinced you to do that. You choose to do that after Trump leveraged your fear and anger.

No Antifa was responsible for this. So many people were proudly posting their own selfies and on their own Instagram. Every single one of them, should be in jail. Along with Trump, his family and any Republican Politician that protected him.

- A friend of mine

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posted January 08, 2021 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
AG, you are full of Sh*t! I bet you never said a word about BLM destroying property, looting, burning buildings, attacking police, attacking citizens, and killing David Dorn. You don't get to have the moral high ground now. At least this attack on the Capitol caused two-faced hypocritical people like you to finally speak out against violence and say what Republicans have said for months. The difference is that we denounced the Capitol violence immediately, and Dems didn't say a peep about BLM riots until it hurt them in the polls. Kamala even encouraged people to donate to a fund that bailed out those criminals, so they could continue to riot. Your wife is an attorney. Does she also support those BLM actions? I know a few lawyers were arrested for tossing Molotov cocktails. Were the two of you out there burning down buildings and picking out some merchandise for yourselves? Asking for a friend.

Did you say a word about all of the police attacked by BLM? The ones ambushed and shot in the face in their police cars? Or David Dorn who was a Black man killed by the BLM mob? You are the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen at LL, and that is saying a lot, bruh.

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posted January 08, 2021 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
No need to get personal and mention people’s wives.

No need.

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posted January 08, 2021 04:11 PM            

But the White Domestic Terrorists are aiming for destruction of US Institutions using Insurrection, and this is a billion times more dangerous. They and their facilitators need to be locked up very soon. There are 1000s of Timothy McVeighs waiting to happen. We saw a sample of their plans during Christmas already.

posted January 08, 2021 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
No need to get personal and mention people’s wives.

No need.

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posted January 08, 2021 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Encouraged them to donate to a fund that bails out peaceful protesters, who until now, have faced a hell of a lot more punishment for acting on their constitutional right to protest, than these people had to deal with on the day they staged a coup, and wanted to execute people.

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posted January 08, 2021 06:18 PM            

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Some knowledge:

If you get together with a group of people and commit a felony and someone dies you can be charged with felony murder as if you had killed them yourself. This is the case even if one of your co-conspirators is the one that gets killed.

The classic fact pattern is a group of friends decide to rob a bank. They go in and a guard shoots one of them. All of the friends can be charged with felony murder as if each one of them had personally killed their friend.

This is commonly known as the Pinkerton Doctrine. Essentially any conspirator is responsible for the illegal acts committed by his co-conspirators in furtherance of the conspiracy along with reasonably foreseeable by natural consequences of the acts in furtherance of the conspiracy. Pinkerton v. United States, 328 U.S. 640, 66 S.Ct. 1180 (1946).

A federal statute on point: Accomplice Liability under 18 U.S.C. 2(b)
(a). Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal.
(b). Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense against the United States, is punishable as a principal.

The Eighth Amendment does not prohibit the death penalty as disproportionate in the case of a defendant whose participation in a felony that results in murder is major and whose mental state is one of reckless indifference. Tison v. Arizona, 481 U.S. 137, 107 S.Ct. 1676, 95 L.Ed.2d 127 (1987).

“In addition, even if one conspirator did not participate in, or was unaware of, acts undertaken by co-conspirators in furtherance of the conspiracy, it is nevertheless liable for such acts, including those that occur prior to its joining the conspiracy. (**** -ton of citations omitted) - U.S. v. Philip Morris USA, Inc., 449 F.Supp.2d 1 (D. D.C. 2006).

So, if you and a bunch of buddies decide to break into a federal building and commit a felony, or you counsel, aid, command or abet some people to break into a federal building and commit a felony and one of them gets shot and dies, under the Pinkerton Doctrine it is as if you pointed the gun at them and pulled the trigger.

18 U.S. Code § 1111 (b) “…Whoever is guilty of murder in the first degree shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for life;”

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Randall, you guys didn't denounce the violence yesterday. You were at first confused. The truth has set in now and you're trying to change your story.

Guess what. The same guy who posted the above also let us know that felony behavior in the style of what you guys broadly label BLM is punishable by five years in prison. What happened in the Capital was sedition and is punishable by 20 years in prison. Pick your "protest" carefully activists.

Get back to the real world. The clown car is not big enough.

posted January 08, 2021 06:42 PM            

True, we were confused. The whole nation was. Us trying to figure out who was involved in the Capitol was de facto denouncement. Otherwise, we would have been cheering it.

You completely missed my point. Yes, a looter killed Dorn. All of those present are responsible under the above legal theory. It happened under the mob protection of BLM. Riots ensued everywhere that night. There was little peaceful protesting going on. BLM during their peaceful protests called looting "reparations" and earlier and called for dead cops. And then people shot cops. My point is that there is rampant hypocrisy being used here--not that BLM should be arrested as a group. Their rhetoric did encourage a lot of violence against police, though, but people are responsible for their own actions. However, the line between the free political speech of rhetoric and inciting violence is a thin one.

posted January 09, 2021 04:53 AM            

I'm just astounded at how much this place has really embraced the conspiratorial nature of the Right. We used to have debates here about things that were rationally reported in the news. Now every post in support of a belief is not supported by anything of any great journalistic integrity. It's baffling and disheartening and I'm a bit concerned where this leads.

I didn't post the law for you. I posted so that others may know the potential consequences of getting involved in stuff like this. You don't need your members to become these people.

You are talking political points with Dorn. You're conveniently using his death as an indication that BLM was bad for America. I am the AG of old. Perhaps less intense, but very much the same. I still see transparently into people's intents and arguments. I can still distill a thought.