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Topic: The Farcical Senate Trial Of Donald J. Trump
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15778 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2021 03:40 PM
Notice, I didn't say..The Senate Impeachment Trial of Donald J. Trump.1. Impeachment trials of Federal officials is only for current office holders, to remove them from office. 2. The Constitution requires the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States to officiate over those Impeachment Trials. 3. The Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court declined to officiate over this Senate trial, though the US Constitution requires the Chief Justice to officiate over Senate Impeachment trials. 4. Therefore, the trial of Donald J. Trump by the US Senate is not an impeachment trial. So, if not an Impeachment Trial, what is it? Ongoing at this moment is an act by the US Senate which is prohibited by the US Constitution, Section 9, Clause 3, Bills of Attainder. Bills of Attainder are legislative acts which seek to punish an Individual without resort to the safeguards of a civilian or criminal trial by jury. A denial of due process and usurpation of authority under our separation of powers between the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government. Clause 3. No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed. BILLS OF ATTAINDER "Bills of attainder . . . are such special acts of the legislature, as inflict capital punishments upon persons supposed to be guilty of high offences, such as treason and felony, without any conviction in the ordinary course of judicial proceedings. If an act inflicts a milder degree of punishment than death, it is called a bill of pains and penalties. . . . In such cases, the legislature assumes judicial magistracy, pronouncing upon the guilt of the party without any of the common forms and guards of trial, and satisfying itself with proofs, when such proofs are within its reach, whether they are conformable to the rules of evidence, or not. In short, in all such cases, the legislature exercises the highest power of sovereignty, and what may be properly deemed an irresponsible despotic discretion, being governed solely by what it deems political necessity or expediency, and too often under the influence of unreasonable fears, or unfounded suspicions.”1910 The phrase “bill of attainder,” as used in this clause and in clause 1 of § 10, applies to bills of pains and penalties as well as to the traditional bills of attainder.1911 The prohibition embodied in this clause is not to be narrowly construed in the context of traditional forms but is to be interpreted in accordance with the designs of the framers so as to preclude trial by legislature, which would violate the separation of powers.1912 The clause thus prohibits all legislative acts, “no matter what their form, that apply either to named individuals or to easily ascertainable members of a group in such a way as to inflict punishment on them without a judicial trial." Chief Justice, John Roberts refuses to be any part of what he...and anyone else with brain, recognizes as an unconstitutional legislative trial for a "Bill of Attainder" by the US House of Representatives and the US Senate. Hang them high!
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 3835 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2021 03:52 PM
The democrats have amply demonstrated they do not care for the rule of law or the constitution. They will do things just BECAUSE THEY CAN. They are intoxicated with power from owning both the Senate and the House, and they are intend on abusing their power. Plus, the media which is in servitude to them can continue profiting from its golden egg, the hatred of Trump, by again drumming up passion and anger and clicks and views and high ratings which keeps them in profitable business. It is so much better than having to focus on ~ yawn ~ Biden. IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 2782 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted January 26, 2021 05:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage:
Plus, the media which is in servitude to them can continue profiting from its golden egg, the hatred of Trump, by again drumming up passion and anger and clicks and views and high ratings which keeps them in profitable business. It is so much better than having to focus on ~ yawn ~ Biden.
Never mind Trump, it is a condemnation of any vestigial populist movement. I couldn't care any less about the persecution of Trump. He'll be just fine. What disturbs me is the marginalization of people who believed his BS, and all those who can be, however loosely, linked to him. Trump has proven immeasurably useful to the tyrannical class. And I'll say the same for Biden. There are decent people, many of them, who genuinely believe Biden cares about them, that he will bring peace, blah blah. Useful idiots. Rude awakenings all around. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17441 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2021 05:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: The democrats have amply demonstrated they do not care for the rule of law or the constitution. They will do things just BECAUSE THEY CAN. They are intoxicated with power from owning both the Senate and the House, and they are intend on abusing their power. Plus, the media which is in servitude to them can continue profiting from its golden egg, the hatred of Trump, by again drumming up passion and anger and clicks and views and high ratings which keeps them in profitable business. It is so much better than having to focus on ~ yawn ~ Biden.
You have just described trump and the people who enjoyed the power they had when riding his coattails (and support from his cult members). Trump and his followers, are doing their best to keep his name circulating. He still lost the election. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 1014 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2021 07:54 PM
Lol and we're supposed to listen to you because you're a legal scholar?You don't know anything IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15778 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2021 08:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by BlueRoamer: Lol and we're supposed to listen to you because you're a legal scholar?You don't know anything
How about this! I know you're a legal illiterate! IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 1014 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2021 09:58 PM
And you're literally a nincompoopIP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15778 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2021 12:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by BlueRoamer: And you're literally a nincompoop
Both of the dud duos speak. Dopey and Droopy. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15778 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2021 12:44 PM
Nolte: An Impeachment So Fake, John Roberts Refuses to Participate John Nolte 28 Jan 2021The economy is imploding, the coronavirus is raging, the terrorists in Black Lives Matter and Antifa are still terrorizing Democrat-run cities, and what’s the Democrat-run U.S. Senate gearing up to do, and do with His Fraudulency Joe Biden’s approval…? Impeach … a private citizen........... http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/28/impeachment-fake-john-roberts-refuses-participate/
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 137594 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2021 04:52 PM
One way to look at this is that the Dems are admitting Trump is still President.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15778 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2021 11:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: One way to look at this is that the Dems are admitting Trump is still President.
That reasoning would be lost on intellectually inferior democrats.
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