posted February 16, 2021 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Before Trump, the Republicans took whatever nonsense the Dems threw at them. Trump taught them how to fight back.

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posted February 17, 2021 11:55 AM            

He has become too much of a polarizing figure and the democrats are able to focus EVERYTHING on him and keep people from talking about the real issues.

He can do much better for the party and for the country and be even more powerful by just remaining a private citizen and work behind the scene to shape things. Think about all he can do as a "power behind the throne." while depriving mainstream media of their daily TDS fix.

posted February 17, 2021 01:13 PM            

Who are those 'younger' candidates...who will fight tirelessly for the America First agenda as Trump did and still does every day?

I don't see anyone with the depth of knowledge, determination and skill to accomplish half of what Trump did in a single term in office.

posted February 17, 2021 11:24 PM            

Josh Hawley
Rand Paul
De Santis
Kristi Noem
There are many more...
Edited to add: I even heard Candace Owen is interested in running,

You can have Trumpism' "America First " without Trump at the helm as POTUS.

posted February 18, 2021 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Just off the top of my head:

Josh Hawley
Rand Paul
De Santis
Kristi Noem
There are many more...
Edited to add: I even heard Candace Owen is interested in running,

You can have Trumpism' "America First " without Trump at the helm as POTUS.

The republicans were outsmarted by the democrats in 2020 as demonstrated by that Time magazine article on the shadow organization. The republicans can either succumb to emotionalism or they can also start using their little grey cells and figure out how they are going to outsmart the dems in 2024.

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Disagree.

None of those you cite...nor anyone I'm aware of has the experience, will and determination to deal with the entrenched globalist uni-party state that exists now and will be even stronger in 4 years of Biden and his cronies. Perhaps at sometime in the future with some seasoning and expansion of expertise and knowledge, but not in 4 years.

Republicans were not 'outsmarted' in the 2020 election. The 2020 election was stolen and the proof of democrat fraud and foreign interference is so in our facss, one would have to look the other way not to see it clearly.

30 minute investment of time to clearly see the election fraud, voter fraud and direct foreign interference in the 2020 election as foreign hackers line by line stole votes from Trump.
http://lindelltv.com/

posted February 18, 2021 04:39 PM            

All of Trump's supposed smart, will, experience and determination didn't prevent the steal from happening. In fact, Trump was blindsided along with the MAGAs.

Lessons to be learned: Start working in stealth like the democrats have been doing. Use your mind instead of your emotions in planning short terms and long terms strategies.

posted February 18, 2021 05:48 PM            

It is pretty obvious the judiciary was afraid to stick its neck out.

When the US chambers of Commerce which is traditionally a conservative, republican leaning body decides to align itself with AFL-CIO to support Biden because they are afraid the left is going to unleash riots that will damage businesses like they did in the summer, that alone should tell you the magnitude of how the democrats and their goons had outsmarted the republicans.

None of the players in the highway robbery election steal are in jail. None of them. They haven't even been indicted. In spite of smoking gun videos and Dominion machine audits. Not even the Lyndell video showing proof of fraud is generating indictments.

How the heck did all this happen under Trump's watch?

posted February 18, 2021 07:18 PM            

Using your logic, a bank robber who holds up a bank and steals every dollar in the vault... 'outsmarted' bank execs and the police.

These election fraudsters are criminals and they're not smart. Leaving fingerprints all over the stolen election is not smart.

Did you watch the video? If so, you saw the proof of foreign vote theft from Trump, principally by China and Iran.

If you watched the video, you saw the massive election fraud by democrat election officials and voter fraud using a multitude of methods by voters.

The reason this is still a topic is because if it's not dealt with, expect a repeat in 2022 and 2024.

posted February 18, 2021 08:39 PM            

A bank robber who holds up a bank and steals every dollar in the vault... and is still able to walk around unbothered, not in jail, not indicted... has outsmarted bank execs and the police.

If for whatever reason, the bank execs and the police are not able or willing to arrest him, then yes, he has outsmarted them.

posted February 18, 2021 09:14 PM            

The Thomas Crown Affair final scene is pure stylized delight:
https://youtu.be/Y5OJmNmmhV4

Ocean 13 is also a good heist movie.

posted February 18, 2021 11:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
My logic is saying:

A bank robber who holds up a bank and steals every dollar in the vault... and is still able to walk around unbothered, not in jail, not indicted... has outsmarted bank execs and the police.

If for whatever reason, the bank execs and the police are not able or willing to arrest him, then yes, he has outsmarted them.

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Why do you persist in this line of thought? You must know these people are being protected...by the FBI, the DOJ, the press, social media and democrats in Congress. They may be getting away with it now...from the standpoint of prosecutions but about 45% of Americans believe, strongly believe the election was stolen from Trump. That number will go up. As soon as one of the lawsuits gets into court, the facts and figures on the stolen election will come out.

As to the other issue on this thread, who should be the 2024 presidential candidate, Trump is the only one capable of turning America around after 4 years of Biden bungling. We know Trump can because he's already proved himself by changing the direction of America after a generation of American managed decline. He did all that against resistance on every front. Pie in the sky with unproven candidates doesn't cut the mustard for me.

posted February 19, 2021 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Why do you persist in this line of thought? You must know these people are being protected...by the FBI, the DOJ, the press, social media and democrats in Congress. They may be getting away with it now...from the standpoint of prosecutions but about 45% of Americans believe, strongly believe the election was stolen from Trump. That number will go up. As soon as one of the lawsuits gets into court, the facts and figures on the stolen election will come out.

As to the other issue on this thread, who should be the 2024 presidential candidate, Trump is the only one capable of turning America around after 4 years of Biden bungling. We know Trump can because he's already proved himself by changing the direction of America after a generation of American managed decline. He did all that against resistance on every front. Pie in the sky with unproven candidates doesn't cut the mustard for me.

One more thing.
I actually like all the people you listed. I just don't think they're ready to tackle the chaotic mess Biden and his Comrades are going to generate in the next 4 years.

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In less than 2 weeks, with the strokes of a pen, Biden has been able to reverse practically everything Trump had done.

The fundamental players you listed, the FBI, the DOJ, the press, social media and democrats did not lose power under Trump, in fact, it was the opposite.

Trump could not fix the corruption with the FBI, the DOJ and the press while he was president. What makes you think he is going to fix it if he comes back for 4 more years?

posted February 19, 2021 01:34 AM            

Michigan proved Trump right:

https://youtu.be/KrX9BmYx-i0

posted February 19, 2021 12:14 PM            

Led by Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R – KY), the Republican establishment appears to be set on trying to somehow expunge President Trump and the Make America Great Again movement from the GOP.
History tells us that’s a horrible idea for Republicans, and an horrendous idea for the nation.

In 1988 President George HW Bush beat Democrat Michael Dukakis, after trailing late into the summer, to effectively secure Ronald Reagan’s third term.

Since then, the GOP establishment has done worse and worse:

1992 – George Bush Sr. loses to Bill Clinton after winning the First Gulf War.

1996 – President Clinton TROUNCES Senator Bob Dole. Dole received barely over 39 million votes nationwide.

2000 – President George W. Bush loses the popular vote and after weeks of litigation eeks out a win by 537 votes in Florida.

2004 – President Bush barely beats, by just over 2 percent, John Kerry – a candidate whose lack of charisma is only matched by his lack of achievement.

2008 – President Obama crushes Senator John McCain by almost 10 million votes.

2012 – President Obama soundly defeats now Senator Mitt Romney.

2016 – the MAGA revolution sweeps President Trump to victory with 63 million votes.

2020 – President Trump secures almost 75 million votes, the most of any incumbent in history. Joe Biden becomes president with the help of rampant violations of Article II of the Constitution resulting in an election with unchecked mail-in balloting.

In 2020, President Trump achieved historic highs for a Republican with African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Jewish Americans, and other voting blocks.

Why? Because Donald Trump stands for a strong America, for opportunity, for the forgotten man and woman who don’t want our jobs and money going overseas to

China. The MAGA movement is for less intervention and for more American manufacturing.

MAGA stands for fair trade and for treating our allies, such as Israel, like our allies and our enemies, such as Iran, like our enemies.

Without President Trump and his movement, the Republican Party is one of unnecessary wars, unfair trade, and unchecked elitism.

That is NOT a winning formula. That is a road to getting 40 – 60 million votes and losing the race for the White House every four years.

It is correct for Americans of all political views to condemn the violence that happened on January 6th at the U.S. Capitol.

Having said that, that tragic event should not cause the Republican Party to cut itself off from its base, and that is unquestionably the MAGA crowd who fill stadiums, work hard in their electoral precincts, and are motivated to go out and vote.