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Topic: The Unarmed Non-Insurrection
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 139601 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2021 09:04 PM
Of the more than 200 people arrested—mostly for misdemeanors such as trespassing and disorderly conduct—only 14 have been charged with any type of weapons violations. These “weapons” were pepper spray, a helmet, and a riot shield—against an officer or against the building. Only 2 people faced firearm charges for violating D.C.’s very restrictive firearm laws, and there is no evidence those two people were anywhere near the Capitol.IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4054 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2021 09:19 PM
Shhhh! Don't question the armed insurrection porn. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 139601 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2021 10:49 PM
Not a single person charged with insurrection or anyone who breached the Capitol with having a firearm.IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6433 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2021 03:49 AM
The ex-Military do not need guns to kill or kidnap their main targets: Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence. It was a very very clever plot to use mass distraction at the gates while core terrorists were to do the needful; it failed only because of another ex-Military Black Cop: Eugene Goodman.Let a full fledged Commission look into this, everything will be exposed. If it was just a sweet homely protest, cops would not have died nor Mitch/McCarthy would lambast Trump nor would 7 Republican Senators vote against him, nor would Trump be so silent, he would have been on Fox 24/7 to blast the Democrats for spreading lies. This was a JFK Level Operation from Transnational Mobsters, but God Saved America for the time being... IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4054 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2021 07:22 AM
IQ, you still think cops died? I don't think you are aware that the NT times has retracted (sort of) its original story of the death of the 1 cop they claimed had died due to the riot. https://news.yahoo.com/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html What makes that one cop death story even more interesting is that he was cremated 1 day after his death, therefore any forensic autopsy to verify the cause of death beyond that put down by the medical examiner will never happen. As for your theory that a sophisticated plot to kidnap Pelosi and/or Pence was foiled by one ex black op hero, I dunno, IQ, I dunno. What a bumbling bunch of idiots these wannabe kidnappers were. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 139601 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2021 09:17 AM
Ashli was shot by a cop and was unarmed. The other four deaths were natural causes (heart attack or stroke).IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 2923 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 23, 2021 11:28 AM
i dunno guys iQ told me a cop was "bludgeoned to death" IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17943 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2021 03:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Shhhh! Don't question the armed insurrection porn.
Shh, don't let them talk about the armed people who were working together, and looking for Pelosi and others. Don't mention the noose outside. Don't mention the sing-song "nancy!" as they looked for her. Just try to find a way to blame the liberals. Those poor people who stormed the capitol, took selfies, saw violence and didn't care, said it was the best day of their lives - ah, too bad that they're now being arrested. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 139601 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2021 04:10 PM
Armed with what—cell phones? The crimes of the mostly peaceful protesters were misdemeanors. I doubt any are in jail. We are talking trespassing and disorderly conduct.IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4054 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2021 11:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Shh, don't let them talk about the armed people who were working together, and looking for Pelosi and others. Don't mention the noose outside. Don't mention the sing-song "nancy!" as they looked for her. Just try to find a way to blame the liberals. Those poor people who stormed the capitol, took selfies, saw violence and didn't care, said it was the best day of their lives - ah, too bad that they're now being arrested.
I'm wondering... Maybe, just maybe after watching our cities burn all summer, people screaming ACAB and looting, watching rioters being bailed out, watching mob take over city blocks in Seattle and creating the country of CHAZ/CHOP, watching Portland federal building under assault day after day, night after night for months on end, all this with the full support of the media, democrat officials, the wall of moms and people like you, maybe these "poor people who stormed the Capitol" thought that they too could act lawlessly and show their behind and get kudos like antifa and blm did. KInd of a monkey see monkey do situation, uh? That was silly of them, wasn't it? Who the heck did they think they were? They should be burned at the stake, hung on the public square, or guillotined. For this "day of infamy." IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6433 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 07:23 AM
@Belage: I hope you saw the Senate Hearing where it was made clear even by the darling of White Supremacists and Conservatives, Josh Hawley, that the Capitol hill was attacked by Violent Criminals. Not peaceful protestors as the Fake Conservative Media would like us to believe. Hawley also rubbished allegations that he was complicit in the Insurrection Attempt. Meaning he too accepts it was a Violent Insurrection. That settles it.I did see the Video of One Cop nearly crushed to death by the Terrorists, they even took his mask off. Example of those who took part: Ex-New York Cop arrested: http://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1364324804942258178 More than 500 Videos exist in Evidence, and 1000s more are still being scanned. As of now, no evidence of any Black Person or Muslim or Asian in the planning or execution of the Violent Attacks, which rules out BLM or ANTIFA planning/execution. Please be patient as Garland does the needful. The cases have to be Watertight to ensure the entire leadership of White Neo Nazis get incarcerated for 20+ years as a deterrence, and it becomes impossible for any Candidate to seek votes from Neo Nazis without fear of FBI. White Supremacy has to be eradicated as if it is a Plague on the USA. That is what the Founding Fathers would have done if they were alive. Nazism/Fascism/Communism/Satanism have no place in the USA. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15886 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 11:41 AM
"As of now, no evidence of any Black Person or Muslim or Asian in the planning or execution of the Violent Attacks, which rules out BLM or ANTIFA planning/execution."Does the name 'John Sullivan' ring any bells for you? Surely, you can lie with more subtlety than this! IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4054 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 12:42 PM
IQ, Merriam Websters defines insurrection as:an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government And just for the sake of argument, let me agree with you that January 6 was a violent insurrection. My main problem is, why was this expression not applied to the numerous incidents we had all throughout the summer of 2020? Did we forget that the White House was attacked and the left gloated, saying Trump was hiding in the basement? Did we forget the church near the WH was torched, The Federal buildings in Portland was under daily attack for months, CHAZers/CHOPers torched police preccint and took over street blocks in Seattle creating their own government, all with the media's admiration? See, that is the problem here that I have never seen you address. The selective use of the expression violent insurrection only when it suits certain political agendas. When we had it happening all during the summer, it was never called violent insurrection, it was called peaceful protest. And by the way, I think Josh Hawley is not a white supremacist. This term is being thrown around a little too easily as a way to dismiss any strong opposition to the current lefltist narrative. Why is it that any time a white person takes a strong stance pushing back against leftist agenda, they are quickly labelled white supremacist? ETA: As for your assertion that there was no POC among those who stormed the Capitol, a little bit of open minded research would show you that there were POC among them. This narrative trying to portray this as a white supremacist movement is really tiring. But if this is what you choose to believe... IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6433 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: "As of now, no evidence of any Black Person or Muslim or Asian in the planning or execution of the Violent Attacks, which rules out BLM or ANTIFA planning/execution."Does the name 'John Sullivan' ring any bells for you? Surely, you can lie with more subtlety than this!
Is John Sullivan Black? Have you heard about "Controlled Opposition"? The best way to harm a Black Human Rights movement is to send some Controlled Opposition infiltration. This is Destabilization 101. In any case, were all the 1000+ Violent Extremists who charged into Capitol Hill hired by John Sullivan? Anyway, let the investigators do their needful. Good times for USA as the genuine thugs get arraigned without Mobster Support they had for 4 years. Whoever they are! BTW, where is Donald Trump? Why is he not making his Case in Fox and Friends on a daily basis?
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 17943 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 02:20 PM
http://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1364423122984857602?s=21 NEW: Eric Christie, a former candidate for Los Angeles City Council’s 4th District, participated in the Jan 6th Capitol attack. Christie is known for attending the Beverly Hills Trump rallies and anti-mask protests, where he harasses people. He carried a hammer at the Capitol. Eric Christie from Los Angeles stands on top of a car at what appears to be the east entrance to the Capitol, urging rioters on. Note his signature “F*gs For Trump” shirt. Christie carries a red hammer in his belt loop and wears a green bandana at his waist. On Jan 3rd, Eric Christie took part in an anti-mask protest at Century City mall with several other LA-area Trump supporters. In @SamBraslow’s video, we see Christie with fellow insurrectionist #SwedishScarf, who was filmed inside the Capitol on Jan 6. And it goes on IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6433 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 02:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: IQ, Merriam Websters defines insurrection as:an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government And just for the sake of argument, let me agree with you that January 6 was a violent insurrection. My main problem is, why was this expression not applied to the numerous incidents we had all throughout the summer of 2020? Did we forget that the White House was attacked and the left gloated, saying Trump was hiding in the basement? Did we forget the church near the WH was torched, The Federal buildings in Portland was under daily attack for months, CHAZers/CHOPers torched police preccint and took over street blocks in Seattle creating their own government, all with the media's admiration? See, that is the problem here that I have never seen you address. The selective use of the expression violent insurrection only when it suits certain political agendas. When we had it happening all during the summer, it was never called violent insurrection, it was called peaceful protest. And by the way, I think Josh Hawley is not a white supremacist. This term is being thrown around a little too easily as a way to dismiss any strong opposition to the current lefltist narrative. Why is it that any time a white person takes a strong stance pushing back against leftist agenda, they are quickly labelled white supremacist? ETA: As for your assertion that there was no POC among those who stormed the Capitol, a little bit of open minded research would show you that there were POC among them. This narrative trying to portray this as a white supremacist movement is really tiring. But if this is what you choose to believe...
Yes, Ali ALexander was a POC who was fully involved. But if 99% of the Core Attackers are from Self-Proclaimed White Supremacist Groups, why not call it what it is? BTW, I do not think Josh Hawley is a White Supremacist but I say that he is a Darling of White Supremacists. I have a Counter Question. If 10000 Blacks did the exact same thing on Jan 6th on Capitol Hill, do you swear that the response would have been exactly the same? Why has a Tulsa Massacre not occurred by Black People on Prosperous Whites, if you claim there is no Racism or Targeting of Blacks by White Supremacists? Where are the Black Klans lynching Whites on Trees in the 19th Century up to Mid 20th Century? Where are the White Trayvon Martins shot with impunity by Black Cops? If you say that everything is 100% Fair and Equal, then please show the evidence. I only see clear cut bias in the kid glove treatment to White Terrorists even in the 21st Century. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15886 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 04:57 PM
"As of now, no evidence of any Black Person or Muslim or Asian in the planning or execution of the Violent Attacks, which rules out BLM or ANTIFA planning/execution." John Sullivan is a Black Lives Matter activist Antifa Protester John Sullivan Brags About Posing As Trump Supporter, Breaking Window At US Capitol Building During Riots Another one of your ridiculous memes up in smoke. Embarrassing ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/redface.gif)
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 17943 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 10:13 PM
http://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2021/02/24/woman-accused-of-stealing-nancy-pelosis-laptop-appears-in-video-making-nazi-salute/ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4054 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 10:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Yes, Ali ALexander was a POC who was fully involved. But if 99% of the Core Attackers are from Self-Proclaimed White Supremacist Groups, why not call it what it is?
Can you please show me proof that 99% of the Core Attackers are from Self-Proclaimed White Supremacist Groups? Please share this with me as I did not come across any legitimate info supporting this claim. It used to be that a white supremacist was someone who advocated separation of the races in everything, the superiority of whites and the violent imposition of whites at the top. Nowadays, white supremacist means any white who pushes back against BLM, Antifa, Critical Race theory, who believes in the right to bear arms. Anyone who does so is now labelled "far right". Just a few days ago, Dave Rubin was labelled "far right" by The Guardian! This is not by accident. This is by design. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4054 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 10:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: I have a Counter Question. If 10000 Blacks did the exact same thing on Jan 6th on Capitol Hill, do you swear that the response would have been exactly the same?Why has a Tulsa Massacre not occurred by Black People on Prosperous Whites, if you claim there is no Racism or Targeting of Blacks by White Supremacists? Where are the Black Klans lynching Whites on Trees in the 19th Century up to Mid 20th Century? Where are the White Trayvon Martins shot with impunity by Black Cops? If you say that everything is 100% Fair and Equal, then please show the evidence. I only see clear cut bias in the kid glove treatment to White Terrorists even in the 21st Century.
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Tulsa massacre happened 100 years ago. 100 years ago! My goodness, why are you bringing up stuff that happened 100 years ago? When in the meantime, in this supposed systemic racist country we elected a black president not just once, but twice? How did lighting happen to strike twice? Unless the voting machines were tempered with... haha As for the Trayvon Martin incident, I was very upset by it. He was shot by a civilian, who also happened to be a POC/latino did you know that, don't let the last name of Zimmerman fool you. Now regarding your Counter question, if 10000 blacks did the same thing on Capitol hill... let us keep things in proportion, will you?. 10000 whites did not storm Capitol hill. It was around 500 people at the most. So I am going to rephrase your question, if 500 blacks did the same thing on Capitol Hill...? Judging by what happened last summer - not by what happened 100 years ago in Tulsa - they would have been cheered on by CNN, WaPo, The Guardian, NYTimes, NPR, etc, Kamala would have called to bail out the rioters, there would have been walls of moms to protect them, and we would be arguing here on Lindaland how when people have had enough, they snap and it is normal... IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4054 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2021 11:23 PM
IQ,Lastly, I am not saying white supremacists do not exist. Of course they exist, and they are dangerous. But the threat is way overblown. And the constant harping on it, and the constant labeling people who are not white supremacists as such, all this hype is feeding the beast and radicalizing people to join extremist groups on the left and right. The vast majority of Americans of any race are decent people. But in the current climate where the media and the dems are ramping up their racialized narrative and see a KKK hiding behind every white face that disagree with their diktats is not helping maintaining decency. The demand that whites start self-flagellating through forced critical race theory training is not helping. Unless there is a correcting of course, we are heading for civil war. And this is exactly what the puppet masters behind all this chaos want. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 139601 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 25, 2021 03:25 PM
To answer your question, iQ, if BLM had stormed the Capitol, it would have been set on fire, and it would have been labeled as a "mostly peaceful protest." IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17943 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 26, 2021 12:05 AM
http://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1365006145010728964 Acting U.S. Capitol Police Chief in hearing: "We know that members of the militia groups that were present on January 6th have stated their desires that they want to blow up the Capitol and kill as many members as possible with a direct nexus to the State of the Union." IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 139601 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 26, 2021 12:30 AM
How do they know that? Where is the evidence? The only person who blew up the Capitol was a Democrat who Clinton pardoned and who is currently a leader of BLM.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 139601 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 26, 2021 12:39 AM
Out of 199 people arrested for breaching the Capitol, only 5 were known to be racists. Yet, the media would have you believe that these were all white supremacists. IP: Logged |