posted May 15, 2021 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
You’re saying it’s a coincidence?! I just can’t with this forum sometimes.

Tbh most of you sound like the types of people that teach creationism in schools.

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The CDC admits that only about 6% of supposed covid 19 deaths were caused by covid 19 virus alone.

They've even lumped in people who died in auto accidents and from gunshot wounds...because those people were covid 19 positive when they died. They died WITH covid 19, not FROM covid 19.

You must be one of the few left who believe much of anything coming out of the CDC.

posted May 15, 2021 05:22 PM            

And I’m not just relying on their self reporting but first hand accounts from friends who live there.

China is messed up in many ways, but implying it’s completely devoid of any positive qualities worth emulating? You’re showing your extremely biased hand there, bud.

posted May 15, 2021 05:32 PM            

yeah that sounds good lol You write this crap and manage to sleep at night? Impressive.

posted May 15, 2021 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
It’s not so much about the policies of the government but rather about citizens who can see beyond themselves and actually follow the rules for a common good. It’s not a government you wear a mask for, but for people, like frontline workers who are at risk.

And I’m not just relying on their self reporting but first hand accounts from friends who live there.

China is messed up in many ways, but implying it’s completely devoid of any positive qualities worth emulating? You’re showing your extremely biased hand there, bud.

And if you trump voting, mayo on white bread eating bigots are deciding who is the authority, I’d rather not be considered one. 👋

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Let us put aside the sermonizing and let us use our little grey cells.

-- Florida was lax when it comes to masking and allowed businesses to continue functioning. Everyone criticized DeSantis and said he was crazy or careless.

-- California closed most businesses early on and was very strict with masks. Newsom ruled with an iron hand and was praised for it.

If the media was so right, one state should be drowning in Covid, while the other should be smooth sailing.

Well, chew on this recent Newsweek article:

Florida Sees Same COVID Case Rate as California, Despite No Statewide Restrictions

posted May 15, 2021 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
The CDC admits that only about 6% of supposed covid 19 deaths were caused by covid 19 virus alone.

They've even lumped in people who died in auto accidents and from gunshot wounds...because those people were covid 19 positive when they died. They died WITH covid 19, not FROM covid 19.

You must be one of the few left who believe much of anything coming out of the CDC.

And Belange is right. Hospitals listing patients as covid deaths get a much higher payout from the government. I believe the number is more than $37,000..if covid 19 is listed on the death certificate.

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posted May 15, 2021 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
It’s not so much about the policies of the government but rather about citizens who can see beyond themselves and actually follow the rules for a common good. It’s not a government you wear a mask for, but for people, like frontline workers who are at risk.

And I’m not just relying on their self reporting but first hand accounts from friends who live there.

China is messed up in many ways, but implying it’s completely devoid of any positive qualities worth emulating? You’re showing your extremely biased hand there, bud.

And if you trump voting, mayo on white bread eating bigots are deciding who is the authority, I’d rather not be considered one. 👋

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It’s nice to meet you! Thank goodness, I agree. I’m glad that I don’t fit in here.

posted May 15, 2021 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Let us put aside the sermonizing and let us use our little gray cells.

Florida was rather lax when it comes to mandating masking and allowed businesses to continue functioning. Everyone criticized DeSantis and said he was crazy or careless.

California closed most businesses early on and was very strict with masks. Newsom ruled with an iron hand and was praised for it.

If the media was so right, one state should be drowning in Covid, while the other should be smooth sailing.

Well, chew on this recent Newsweek article:

[b]Florida Sees Same COVID Case Rate as California, Despite No Statewide Restrictions

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-sees-same-covid-case-rate-cali fornia-despite-no-statewide-restrictions-1576211 [/B]

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posted May 15, 2021 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
The absolute brutality of pointing to China as the benchmark of ... well, anything. It's unreal watching that pisss poor take in real time tbh.

Hey, did you hear how Uncle Adolf had the trains running on time?

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posted May 15, 2021 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
As for China, anyone using China as a role model for anything or trusting any figures it reports should move there at once and let the rest of us enjoy the perks of democracy, or whatever is left of it now that the CPP has its claws in the US government.

And I have been to China by the way. They were using masks way before Covid because their cities are so polluted.

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posted May 15, 2021 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
@teasel,

So let me get that straight. You are vaccine hesitant, yet you are gunning for Covid passports?

Someone is lying somewhere.... These 2 elements do not belong in the same mindset.

ETA: and if you're not lying, then your thought process is um, unique, to say the least. (I was gonna use another word, but, Satan, not today! )

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My gums were swollen, I have a toothache, I had a fever over the weekend. A friend said she didn’t blame me for putting it off, because my body was already fighting an infection. Use the other word, I don’t care - I expect it from almost everyone here. I don’t go around telling people to wear a mask, and they’d better not come for me when I’m wearing mine.

posted May 15, 2021 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I saw an explanation for this somewhere, and I probably already mentioned it, and didn’t link, because you would say it wasn’t true.

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You saw an explanation. If it made sense, can you articulate it? Because you know, it's not about mindlessly parroting the pitiful excuses the media is concocting to save its ass after having whipped people into a paranoid frenzy for more than a year now.

posted May 15, 2021 07:38 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
My gums were swollen, I have a toothache, I had a fever over the weekend. A friend said she didn’t blame me for putting it off, because my body was already fighting an infection. Use the other word, I don’t care - I expect it from almost everyone here. I don’t go around telling people to wear a mask, and they’d better not come for me when I’m wearing mine.

I’m fine with vaccine passports. We’re in a pandemic.

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That same toothache/gum issue you've had since the first week of April?

posted May 15, 2021 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Everyone should stop wearing a mask, vaccinated or not. Get back to living your lives. No restrictions.

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posted May 15, 2021 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Florida lied about their numbers, in order to play it all down.

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I see.

So you are implying Florida is drowning in Covid with hospitals overflowing with dying and dead people, but somehow, hospitals are turning down the extra Covid diagnostic money and lying about the numbers?!?

That's the best you can come up with? Try again, teasel. You are talking to people who actually use their brains here.

posted May 15, 2021 11:56 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
It’s nice to meet you! Thank goodness, I agree. I’m glad that I don’t fit in here.

I’m wearing my mask for others, because I don’t know who has been vaccinated. Children under twelve, still can’t be vaccinated. I haven’t been yet, because I put it off (health reasons), but I plan to be. Anyone telling me to stop wearing my mask, will be told where they can go, and what they can do with themselves.

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posted May 16, 2021 01:17 AM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
No, I don't "live in fear" of the virus; I just want to be part of the solution, not the problem. I don't feel like the "government controls me.” I feel like I'm an adult contributing to the security in our society and I want to teach others the same. If we could all live with the consideration of others in mind, the whole world would be a much better place. Wearing a mask doesn't make me weak, scared, stupid or even "controlled.” It makes me caring and responsible.

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posted May 16, 2021 02:16 AM            

As opposed to you guys who deny the science behind covid deaths and mask usage, instead relying on absurd conspiracy theories such as hospitals making more money from covid deaths (read this: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
) or twisting facts like with the 6% figure (read this: https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-comorbidities.html)

But sure, I'M the one being led by emotions.

I'm curious, if you were to believe that covid is serious ie life threatening and that wearing a mask could prevent it from spreading would you wear them then? Or would there be a whole different barrage of excuses?