posted May 17, 2021 03:30 PM            

Wearing masks does make rioting and looting easier.

posted May 17, 2021 04:56 PM            

She’s so charming, I can’t imagine why I blocked her on Twitter. http://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1393676091403943936?s=20

posted May 18, 2021 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yeah they just like wearing them honestly, i think it's that it's become a political statement and like wearing a team jersey to some degree 🤷‍♀️

see someone with a donut and a mask and you know you've come across a "good fellow leftist"

it's either that or they want to normalize masks so when they riot and loot stores for blm they're harder to identify

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Ewww, way to prove me right. 93% of BLM protests were peaceful. And do you consider the Boston tea party to be looting? There’s some info below about the history of racialization of that term.

Both the mask and the vaccine work. But that doesn’t stop people from taking their masks off even if they haven’t been vaccinated. Ie you can’t count on people to be honest. That’s why I continue to wear mine. A lot of the logic for this can be found in nyt piece below. 🤷🏻‍♀️

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5851111/protests-looting/%3Famp%3Dtrue

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/%3Famp%3Dtrue

posted May 18, 2021 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
^^^ You may be on to something

Wearing masks does make rioting and looting easier.

The right to riot and loot is something the left is intent on exercising whenever things don't go their way.

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posted May 18, 2021 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
I know. I don't wear it to prevent spread.

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Virtue Signaling!

Just so we're straight on this.

The Covid 19 virus particles average 0.125 microns in size. The best mask is the N-95 medical mask..which almost no one wears in public. The N-95 mask is designed to filter 95% of particles down to 0.30 microns. The Covid 19 virus particles are almost 3 times SMALLER than the design limits of the N-95 mask.

Masks are useless against Covid 19. Wearing them protects no one, not you and not anyone around you. In some cases, masks can be hazardous to health. They can raise CO2 levels and reduce oxygen levels in the blood

posted May 18, 2021 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
Most protests were peaceful and the thing that “didn’t go the left’s way” was accepting that a cop murdered someone and faced no repercussions. And he eventually was charged with murder so the legal system is behind “the left” on this one. Is what he did something you’re ok with?

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That small percentage that wasn't peaceful sure did wreck havoc, didn't it? Stores looted and boarded, damages in the millions of dollars...

As for the mass outrage for a cop murdering someone, y'all BLM supporters can miss me with that selective outrage. You have amply demonstrated Black Lives Matter when and ONLY when a cop or a white person takes it, but not when blacks die due to homicides in the inner cities.

Oakland where you live is famous for its high crime rate, and in 2021, Oakland homicide surges by over 300 percent:
https://thepostmillennial.com/oakland-homicide-rate-up-300-in-2021/

posted May 18, 2021 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Virtue Signaling!

Just so we're straight on this.

The Covid 19 virus particles average 0.125 microns in size. The best mask is the N-95 medical mask..which almost no one wears in public. The N-95 mask is designed to filter 95% of particles down to 0.30 microns. The Covid 19 virus particles are almost 3 times SMALLER than the design limits of the N-95 mask.

Masks are useless against Covid 19. Wearing them protects no one, not you and not anyone around you. In some cases, masks can be hazardous to health. They can raise CO2 levels and reduce oxygen levels in the blood

I expect people to use their brains. I don't expect people to jump on the bandwagons of no-nothings to proclaim their personal virtue.

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Lol. Just no. to all of this.

1. N95 masks do work
2. they are the ones I wear
3. mask wearing does not raise co2 levels
4. All I've said so far is that people should be vaccinated. I wear the mask after vaccination for personal reasons. I can go into them, if you want. But I don't really care if you are vaccinate and don't wear one.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/11/fact-check-n-95-filters-not-too-large-stop-covid-19-particles/5343537002/

posted May 18, 2021 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
That small percentage that wasn't peaceful sure did wreck havoc, didn't it? Stores looted and boarded, damages in the millions of dollars...

As for the mass outrage for a cop murdering someone, y'all BLM supporters can miss me with that selective outrage. You have amply demonstrated Black Lives Matter when and ONLY when a cop or a white person takes it, but not when blacks die due to homicides in the inner cities.

Oakland where you live is famous for its high crime rate, and in 2021, Oakland homicide surges by over 300 percent:
https://thepostmillennial.com/oakland-homicide-rate-up-300-in-2021/

When BLM starts caring about crime in the inner cities, I will start supporting and marching too.

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????

How does caring about one equate with not caring about the other?

AND aren't most of those racially motivated ie people who spout the same ******** anti-asian propaganda like kung flu and what not? genuinely asking bc I'm not sure

posted May 18, 2021 03:38 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
????

How does caring about one equate with not caring about the other?

AND aren't most of those racially motivated ie people who spout the same ******** anti-asian propaganda like kung flu and what not? genuinely asking bc I'm not sure

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posted May 18, 2021 03:46 PM            

Perhaps if you're sitting on your butt 24/7 you wouldn't experience any blood oxygen level drops or symptoms of rising CO2 blood levels. But most people aren't sitting on their butts day and night.

posted May 18, 2021 09:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
And please spare us the anti-Asian propaganda kung flu thing. You need to find another red herring. Nobody is blaming Asians here on this forum. We are blaming the damn CCP.

ETA: it has become impossible to have a debate with the left without them throwing racism or some kind of ism at you. Like they have no other way to win a debate but to use red herring. Aarrgh!!

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There is an increase in hate crimes against asian people. Not sure how youd have the gall to disagree with that. And it all started after the pandemic. I wonder who was systemically spreading misinformation around that time. 🧐

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/Hundreds-blow-whistles-against-anti-Asian-16180011.php

https://www.csusb.edu/sites/default/files/Report%20to%20the%20Nation%20-%20Anti-Asian%20Hate%202020%20Final%20Draft%20-%20As%20of%20Apr%2030%202021%206%20PM%20corrected.pdf

Florida v California is a “juking of the stats” just ******* google it.

posted May 18, 2021 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
N-95 masks couldn't possibly work against coronavirus..covid 19. Wearing a filtration device rated at 0.30 microns to filter a particle of 0.125 microns is like trying to stop a flood with a chain link fence.

Perhaps if you're sitting on your butt 24/7 you wouldn't experience any blood oxygen level drops or symptoms of rising CO2 blood levels. But most people aren't sitting on their butts day and night.

Here's what happened to a girl in excellent health.
http://www.newswars.com/shock-video-high-school-runner-collapse s-at-finish-line-says-mask-restricted-breathing/

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Ok so you clearly didn’t read what I sent. Here’s an excerpt:

“The size-based argument against N95 laid out in this claim assumes mask filtering works something like water flowing through a net — particles in the water smaller than the net opening pass through, while larger items don’t.

But the physics involved don’t work like that at all.

The COVID-19 particle is indeed around 0.1 microns in size, but it is always bonded to something larger.

“There is never a naked virus floating in the air or released by people,” said Linsey Marr, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Virginia Tech who specializes in airborne transmission of viruses.

The virus attaches to water droplets or aerosols (i.e. really small droplets) that are generated by breathing, talking, coughing, etc. These consist of water, mucus protein and other biological material and are all larger than 1 micron.

“Breathing and talking generate particles around 1 micron in size, which will be collected by N95 respirator filters with very high efficiency,” said Lisa Brosseau, a retired professor of environmental and occupational health sciences who spent her career researching respiratory protection.

The N95 filter indeed is physically around the 0.3 micron size. But that doesn’t mean it can only stop particles larger than that. The masks are actually best for particles either larger or smaller than that 0.3 micron threshold.

“N95 have the worst filtration efficiency for particles around 0.3,” Marr said. “If you’re smaller than that those are actually collected even better. It’s counterintuitive because masks do not work like sieving out larger particles. It’s not like pasta in a colander, and small ones don’t get through.”

posted May 18, 2021 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
Ewww, way to prove me right. 93% of BLM protests were peaceful. And do you consider the Boston tea party to be looting? There’s some info below about the history of racialization of that term.

Both the mask and the vaccine work. But that doesn’t stop people from taking their masks off even if they haven’t been vaccinated. Ie you can’t count on people to be honest. That’s why I continue to wear mine. A lot of the logic for this can be found in nyt piece below. 🤷🏻‍♀️

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5851111/protests-looting/%3Famp%3Dtrue

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/%3Famp%3Dtrue

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/05/14/opinion/coronavirus-masks-vaccines.amp.html

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prove you right about what? i'm not a trump supporter 🤷‍♀️ leftists really can't take jokes though

also let's be real about black lives matter it's divisive ******** that plays the race card over an actual issue (police brutality) so a bunch of people can virtue signal at each other and ignore the fact that not only are most cops not going around behaving like this but the majority of people harmed by police brutality aren't even black (and the majority of black people being killed are murdering each other)

and when it hasn't been peaceful it's been more than violent and costly for communities

also let's not pretend a whole bunch of blm activists weren't literally just recently trying to attack that poor cop who killed a girl while she was literally trying to stab another girl

all those tweets? all that ******** ? it's a garbage movement as a whole, causes more problems than it will ever solve

but leftists love ineffectual ******** (like wearing masks once they've been vaccinated)

that entire article btw was about continuing to wear masks to virtue signal and take away personal accountability and choices from other people

if masks are effective at preventing people from getting sick then even if some sick person is walking around in a building wouldn't unvaccinated people choosing to wear masks be safe? and if they're not choosing it then aren't they accepting the risk with no harm done to others?

posted May 18, 2021 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
There is an increase in hate crimes against asian people. Not sure how youd have the gall to disagree with that. And it all started after the pandemic. I wonder who was systemically spreading misinformation around that time. 🧐

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/Hundreds-blow-whistles-against-anti-Asian-16180011.php

https://www.csusb.edu/sites/default/files/Report%20to%20the%20Nation%20-%20Anti-Asian%20Hate%202020%20Final%20Draft%20-%20As%20of%20Apr%2030%202021%206%20PM%20corrected.pdf

Florida v California is a “juking of the stats” just ******* google it.

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nobody HERE is saying anything racist against asians or is blaming them you're just looking for racism against them where there isn't any so you can complain about that too

posted May 18, 2021 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
nobody HERE is saying anything racist against asians or is blaming them you're just looking for racism against them where there isn't any so you can complain about that too

leftists love being triggered so much they'll grasp at straws just to find something to be offended by, isn't that tiresome?

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What belage said:
“Oakland where you live is famous for its high crime rate, and in 2021, Oakland homicide surges by over 300 percent:
https://thepostmillennial.com/oakland-homicide-rate-up-300-in-2021/

When BLM starts caring about crime in the inner cities, I will start supporting and marching too.”

“Where are the BLM marches against the homicides in Oakland where you live?”

My response was to point out that a lot of the increased violence she mentioned is racially motivated (I’m not sure how much of it) and to send a link to the active protests that were held recently (yesterday?)

And then comes the slew of: “well no one here is like that!!”

No one ******* said that. Although your ability to completely dismiss race in this country as not an issue makes me wonder. Or maybe it was another super funny joke I’m too dumb to understand.

posted May 18, 2021 10:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
prove you right about what? i'm not a trump supporter 🤷‍♀️ leftists really can't take jokes though

also let's be real about black lives matter it's divisive ******** that plays the race card over an actual issue (police brutality) so a bunch of people can virtue signal at each other and ignore the fact that not only are most cops not going around behaving like this but the majority of people harmed by police brutality aren't even black (and the majority of black people being killed are murdering each other)

and when it hasn't been peaceful it's been more than violent and costly for communities

also let's not pretend a whole bunch of blm activists weren't literally just recently trying to attack that poor cop who killed a girl while she was literally trying to stab another girl

all those tweets? all that ******** ? it's a garbage movement as a whole, causes more problems than it will ever solve

but leftists love ineffectual ******** (like wearing masks once they've been vaccinated)

that entire article btw was about continuing to wear masks to virtue signal and take away personal accountability and choices from other people

if masks are effective at preventing people from getting sick then even if some sick person is walking around in a building wouldn't unvaccinated people choosing to wear masks be safe? and if they're not choosing it then aren't they accepting the risk with no harm done to others?

either masks keep you safe or they don't which is it?

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It’s like using a condom. Pretty effective. Not 100%. Certain classes of people are advised to continue wearing masks even after being vaccinated. My dad is one of them. I wear them when I’m out with him bc hopefully that will encourage others to do so. Not holding my breath though.

You keep talking like it’s personal choice and a terribly risky one at that. I just don’t see it that way. David brooks sums it up pretty well:

“We’re not asking you to storm the beaches of Iwo Jima; we’re asking you to walk into a damn CVS.”🤣

“America will not achieve herd immunity anytime soon. Instead of being largely beaten, this disease could linger, as a more manageable threat, for generations. A major reason is that about 30 percent of the U.S. population is reluctant to get vaccinated.

Americans have always been an individualistic people who don’t like being told what to do. But in times of crisis, they have historically still had the capacity to form what Alexis de Tocqueville called a “social body,” a coherent community capable of collective action.

That basic sense of peoplehood, of belonging to a common enterprise with a shared destiny, is exactly what’s lacking today. Researchers and reporters who talk to the vaccine-hesitant find that the levels of distrust, suspicion and alienation that have marred politics are now thwarting the vaccination process.

“The Atlantic recently contacted more than a dozen people who were refusing to get a Covid-19 vaccine. They often used an argument you’ve probably heard, too: I’m not especially vulnerable. I may have already gotten the virus. If I get it in the future it won’t be that bad. Why should I take a risk on an experimental vaccine?

posted May 18, 2021 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
What belage said:
“Oakland where you live is famous for its high crime rate, and in 2021, Oakland homicide surges by over 300 percent:
https://thepostmillennial.com/oakland-homicide-rate-up-300-in-2021/

When BLM starts caring about crime in the inner cities, I will start supporting and marching too.”

“Where are the BLM marches against the homicides in Oakland where you live?”

My response was to point out that a lot of the increased violence she mentioned is racially motivated (I’m not sure how much of it) and to send a link to the active protests that were held recently (yesterday?)

And then comes the slew of: “well no one here is like that!!”

No one ******* said that. Although your ability to completely dismiss race in this country as not an issue makes me wonder. Or maybe it was another super funny joke I’m too dumb to understand.

What’s hilarious to me is that I didn’t even bring it up, you did.

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Are you actually sitting there and claiming the increase in violence in Oakland is due to anti Asian violence?

I am beginning to doubt that you even live in Oakland...

As of 2 days ago, 51 people have been killed in Oakland, and there is no indication those homicides were Anti Asian hate crimes.
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2021/05/16/oakland-logs-50th-homicide-of-2021/

posted May 18, 2021 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
There is an increase in hate crimes against asian people. Not sure how youd have the gall to disagree with that. And it all started after the pandemic. I wonder who was systemically spreading misinformation around that time. 🧐

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/Hundreds-blow-whistles-against-anti-Asian-16180011.php

https://www.csusb.edu/sites/default/files/Report%20to%20the%20Nation%20-%20Anti-Asian%20Hate%202020%20Final%20Draft%20-%20As%20of%20Apr%2030%202021%206%20PM%20corrected.pdf

Florida v California is a “juking of the stats” just ******* google it.

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Have you documented who is actually committing those hate crime against Asians?

According to the US Department of Justice, on Criminal Victimization:

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf
Check out which race, commits the most crime against Asians, and this is even more shocking considering that race percentage in the population. Hint: it's not the whites.

Table 14 Page 13
Percent of violent incidents, by victim and offender race or ethnicity, 2018. Go ahead, check it out!

posted May 19, 2021 12:05 AM            

The majority of Oakland’s homicide victims are Black and Latino men, and most killings happen in East and West Oakland neighborhoods where Black and Latino people are the majority of the population. Not in Chinatown.

https://oaklandside.org/2021/02/12/oakland-chinatown-policing-hate-crimes-community/

posted May 19, 2021 12:05 AM            

And if you’re talking about just homicides then yes majority are black/Hispanic. What’s your point?