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Topic: Herd Immunity
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shura Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 23, 2021 08:45 PM
83% vax rate (highest in country) in Vermont - why are Covid cases, hospitalizations, and deaths up this week?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 145937 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2021 09:19 PM
Plus, over 150 million have natural immunity. So, what gives?IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19567 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 12:30 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/vaccinated-america-breaking-point-anti-vaxxers/619539/ IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 01:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/vaccinated-america-bre aking-point-anti-vaxxers/619539/
I suppose I might take this opportunity to indulge in a David "Axis of Evil" Frum rant, but nah. Let's bypass that soulless slimy snake responsible for thousands of dead men in the sand, and stay on topic. Provincetown, Mass. 114% vaccination rate. Cases spiking. 2/3 rds of cases are fully vaccinated. The 14-day average number of cases per 100,000 was zero on June 30. Now we have 256. What's going on here? IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 10:39 AM
Israel, which was one of the first countries to mandate and achieve mass vaccination using the Pfizer vaccine:Israel’s COVID surge persists, with serious cases on rise https://jewishnews.com/2021/07/18/israels-covid-surge-persists-with-serious-cases-on -rise/ Israel cannot blame the current surge on its unvaccinated because this population is practically non-existent. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19567 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 01:16 PM
Florida has accounted for one-fifth of all cases. Gee, I wonder what the issue is. 🤔IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19567 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 01:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Israel, which was one of the first countries to mandate and achieve mass vaccination using the Pfizer vaccine:Israel’s COVID surge persists, with serious cases on rise https://jewishnews.com/2021/07/18/israels-covid-surge-persists-with-serious-cases-on -rise/ Israel cannot blame the current surge on its unvaccinated because this population is practically non-existent.
There was a quote that those vaccinated from March onwards, are more protected. That should mean that freshly vaccinated people will be strongly protected. It’s because of covid-deniers that we have variants in the first place. Bye. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 01:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: There was a quote that those vaccinated from March onwards, are more protected. That should mean that freshly vaccinated people will be strongly protected. It’s because of covid-deniers that we have variants in the first place. Bye.
I have no idea what "quote" you are talking about. And how are covid-deniers responsible for the variants in the first place? Did they create that variant in a lab? you know, virus mutate... Please provide legitimate scientific links to back up your claim. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 01:36 PM
@ teasel, since you don't seem to understand the meaning of the word variant, perhaps this might help you:What is a variant? Viruses constantly change through mutations that create new strains of virus (called variants) over time. Some virus variants emerge and then disappear, while others persist or become common. Most variants do not have a meaningful impact. Public health becomes concerned about a SARS-CoV-2 variant when it affects COVID-19 transmission, severity, testing, treatment, or vaccine effectiveness. https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/COVID-Variants.aspx There is more information on the link above. Nowhere does the definition of variant includes covid-deniers. Please take the time to learn something new today. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 04:09 PM
And notice, mainstream media has stopped talking about Sweden. Inconvenient Sweden whose Covid death numbers are not that significantly different and even lower than some other European countries that implemented strict lockdowns and mask mandates.And also the case of Belarus, another country that bucked the lockdown and fear mongering trend. IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 05:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Florida has accounted for one-fifth of all cases. Gee, I wonder what the issue is. 🤔
Teasel, that's the question. why are areas with the lowest vax rate AND the highest vax rates both experiencing a surge? Vermont and Israel - high vax rate, past the herd immunity threshold. Alabama and rural Florida - low vax rate. Yet all are spiking. Why? IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 05:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: And notice, mainstream media has stopped talking about Sweden. Inconvenient Sweden whose Covid death numbers are not that significantly different and even lower than some other European countries that implemented strict lockdowns and mask mandates.And also the case of Belarus, another country that bucked the lockdown and fear mongering trend.
When the lefties stop genuflecting to Sweden, you know something is up
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 19567 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 10:59 PM
http://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1419088987314999297 New Vegas, trump-style. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19567 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 11:51 PM
This is sad. http://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1418600186033545225 I need to go to sleep. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19567 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 11:53 PM
Please be careful, and stop making up stupid crap, or pushing stupid crap for others, because you think it will own the libs. PLEASE. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19567 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2021 11:56 PM
Look at this madness in London. http://twitter.com/SolNataMD/status/1419140066170085377?s=20 And what is the obsession with executions?? IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2021 12:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Please be careful, and stop making up stupid crap, or pushing stupid crap for others, because you think it will own the libs. PLEASE.
You have not explained what you meant by your "quote" comment. You have yet to provide a legitimate link to support your baseless assertion that covid deniers are responsible for variants. Yet you claim we are making stuff up... Are you that incapable of self-examination? IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 3201 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 25, 2021 02:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: You have not explained what you meant by your "quote" comment. You have yet to provide a legitimate link to support your baseless assertion that covid deniers are responsible for variants. Yet you claim we are making stuff up... Are you that incapable of self-examination?
Maybe she's getting at the spike protein vax encouraging mutations? Is that what you mean, teasel?
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 145937 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2021 02:16 PM
That’s just what viruses do.IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising Knowflake Posts: 1930 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2021 02:22 PM
quote: why are Covid cases, hospitalizations, and deaths up this week?
Because the D variant is causing a nuisance in USA just as it did in India.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 16536 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2021 12:49 PM
Hummmm, it appears the government has been conflating influenza and covid 19 statistics.With Narrative Established, CDC Announces Withdrawal of Rapid Response COVID Test to Belatedly Stop Diagnosing Influenza as SARS-COV-2? July 25, 2021 Sundance Well this is seriously sketchy, and feel free to correct me if my interpretation is incorrect, but the CDC has recently released a Lab Alert notifying healthcare providers they are withdrawing their emergency use request of the SARS-COV-2 rapid response diagnostic; and informing test centers to adopt new, modified, COVID testing that does not conflate influenza (the flu) with positive results for COVID-19. This looks like a back-door admission that many of the COVID positive results were actually, perhaps intentionally & purposefully, Flu cases diagnosed as COVID. If so, this would explain why the number of cases of influenza disappeared over the last 18 months….. …And, if so, this would seem to indicate an intentionally inflated outcome from prior COVID-19 testing........ http://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/25/with-narrative-established-cdc-announces-withdrawal-of-rapid-response-covid-test-to-belatedly-stop-diagnosing-influenza-as-sars- cov-2/ IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising Knowflake Posts: 1930 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 26, 2021 01:19 PM
Gloves are off . Illuminatis are shifting HQ. Perhaps to eastern Europe. Slav race -- where ever it is . Study Christian mystic Steiner.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19567 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2021 03:17 PM
I’m fine, so far. Took Tylenol PM at gone 5am, because I wanted to sleep, and my arm was really starting to hurt. Now I’m hoping I didn’t block an immune response. It was twelve hours after the shot. Nothing has been magnetized too my arm, by the way. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2021 03:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: Hummmm, it appears the government has been conflating influenza and covid 19 statistics.[b]With Narrative Established, CDC Announces Withdrawal of Rapid Response COVID Test to Belatedly Stop Diagnosing Influenza as SARS-COV-2? July 25, 2021 Sundance Well this is seriously sketchy, and feel free to correct me if my interpretation is incorrect, but the CDC has recently released a Lab Alert notifying healthcare providers they are withdrawing their emergency use request of the SARS-COV-2 rapid response diagnostic; and informing test centers to adopt new, modified, COVID testing that does not conflate influenza (the flu) with positive results for COVID-19. This looks like a back-door admission that many of the COVID positive results were actually, perhaps intentionally & purposefully, Flu cases diagnosed as COVID. If so, this would explain why the number of cases of influenza disappeared over the last 18 months….. …And, if so, this would seem to indicate an intentionally inflated outcome from prior COVID-19 testing........ [URL=http://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/25/with-narrative-established-cdc-announces-withdrawal-of-rapid-response-covid-test-to-belatedly-stop-diagnosing-influenza-as- sars-]http://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/25/with-narrative-established-cdc-announces-withdrawal-of-rapid-response-covid-test-to-belatedly-stop-diagnosing-influenza-as -sars-[/URL] cov-2/[/B]
Interesting. I have not been really delving into the testing controversy minutiae like you have, so I don't really know what to think. I do know though that Gates and Soros have bought a UK Covid testing company, and I suspect this company will benefit from the latest CDC move. And I also suspect this company will have put out covid tests that are skewed to find more covid cases. https://www.forb es.com/sites/daviddawkins/2021/07/19/george-soros-and-bill-gates-backed-consortium-to-buy-uk-maker-of-covid-lateral-flow-tests-for-41-million/ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 145937 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2021 03:56 PM
That would explain the real reason why the flu has “disappeared.” We know it’s not due to mask wearing, because masks are worthless.IP: Logged |