posted July 31, 2021 04:03 PM            

If you look at American history, you'll note that in the earlier days, the plutocrats tended to focus their efforts on manipulating the right. Particularly in relation to war. Historically, people on the left were more resistant to accept and promote our government going to war or battles with other countries. Whereas people on the right tended to be more accepting, to even gung ho about it.

But of course, for full power and control, you can't just manipulate and coerce one side, but both sides (as well as facilitate divisions and divisiveness more and more between the two sides amongst the commoners).

The plutocrats and their think tanks, seem to have thought long and hard about this. They realized, "hmm, people on the left tend to have more universal empathy and tend to be more collective minded, while people on the right tend to be more individualistic and more concerned with family or their immediate, direct social circles. How do we get people on the left to fall in line?"

They realized, we have to appeal to and manipulate those two very traits, more universal empathy and collective mindedness.

Viola suspicious developments like Covid (most likely did not come direct from a bat or pengolin). This is a social "war" that the left and most people on the left can really get behind, because after all, isn't it all about saving lives and helping the collective? And that's what we've been told, but there are so many indications that there are deeper agendas here.

And even if that agenda is just regular corporate greed to make profit off vaccines, to buy up foreclosed lands, properties and businesses, stock market manipulation, etc it is really disheartening that more people aren't questioning things more, like they would with war, but letting themselves get manipulated by those parts of us which are normally strengths, and good things.

But that is what psychopaths/ASPD spectrum folks do. They use our empathy and conscience against us. They play our heart strings like fiddles. They will go to any and all lengths to get what they want. And what they want, is ever greater power and control over the masses.

If they will set up advanced nano thermite charges in a building, and collapse it demolition style, killing plenty of people and injuring many, many more, and blame it on foreign terrorists to get us into a very costly and long term (but very profitable to certain people and corporations) war against sovereign nation(s), you really don't think they would develop a more infectious and somewhat stronger coronavirus in a lab, and then "accidentally" leak it, and blame solely China as the patsy?

Then convince people that we need to give up more rights and freedoms to "save" the collective? Meanwhile, causing untold harm on the economy for the poor and shrinking middle class around the globe, which in the long run will cause far more suffering, death, and health problems for these groups than any virus ever could.

You know what the number one predictor of premature/early death and ill health is? Poverty. We haven't even truly begun to see the effects from all these forced closures and draconian mandates. The middle class is fast disappearing.

posted July 31, 2021 06:33 PM            

The left tends to favor big government anyway so for them, Big brother getting its nose and claws deeper in our lives is fine.

posted August 01, 2021 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
We are losing rights every day.

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posted August 01, 2021 12:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Where is your red line? I bet you don’t have one. I bet you would walk right into a gas chamber if CNN told you it was for the greater good of society. But don’t worry. We are holding the line and protecting your Constitutional rights even if you don’t say thank you or appreciate the sacrifices made.

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Stop with the holocaust comparisons.

posted August 01, 2021 01:03 AM            

To answer your Question I have NO goal post. I have never argued AGAINST our rights to freedom of our liberties, bodies, well being OR OUR VERY LIVES.
You minimize lives like my small response to the "flu" from the health-care healing board.

posted August 01, 2021 01:03 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
teasel. **Crack open old history books**!!

To answer your Question I have NO goal post. I have never argued AGAINST our rights to freedom of our liberties, bodies, well being OR OUR VERY LIVES.
You minimize lives like my small response to the "flu" from the gealth- healing board.

I care about lives - you have shown you don't. On that thread.

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I DO care about lives. I wouldn't be arguing against the conspiracy theories otherwise. And this shows that you don't know me at all.

Is it possible that you could be wrong?

I don't minimize lives. That's all I've seen from trump supporters in this forum. Did it bother you when Randall told me that people die, get over it (basically)? Why are you ignoring the fact that the vaccine has protected just about everyone? Why aren't covid deaths sad, but vaccinated people dying from covid, is? It makes no sense.

posted August 01, 2021 01:12 AM            

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This virus is going to kill, much like the flu kills. Restrictions did absolutely nothing. The data shows that. Everything we thought we knew was wrong—from social distancing six feet to contact surface transmission. But you only care about lives when your overlords tell you to care—because they serve political ends.

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So, people die, get over it?

posted August 01, 2021 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
So, people die, get over it?

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posted August 01, 2021 01:25 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Randall, I rest my case. She doesn't give a fig about mortality unless it's in favor of her arguing points. Lives are meaningless to her

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I do give a fig. He's the one saying that people die, get over it. No case to rest. Why doesn't it bother you that he thinks that?

Everyone matters. Even if I disagree with them. Don't you ever say that lives don't matter to me.

I want to know why it doesn't matter if people die from covid. But if they were vaccinated, it's suddenly something to care about - because the vaccine has been made political. Of course I cared that those people died, but I don't believe that Randall did. It's another political football.

posted August 01, 2021 01:34 AM            

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Why do you keep bringing God‘s will into the conversation? Are you mental? Life has risks. Driving has risks. Flying has risks. Eating has risks. We have to continue with our lives. You choose to live in fear. I choose to live.

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Because that's what I was told it was.

posted August 01, 2021 01:42 AM            

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Not that it will matter to you, but I added to the post you quoted. Unlike Dem science that is whatever Dems want to make up at the moment, real science wants to be challenged. In that vein, Jwhop is a true scientist, where Fauci—though educated—is a political hack. If you cannot challenge science, it’s not science.

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I don't know why it should matter to me, at this point. Why should it?