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Topic: Disconcerting how naive many people are.
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Nadereme
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posted September 19, 2021 12:47 PM
  
I feel like this situation really emphasizes the mass delusion we are in. Nicki Minaj’s censorship from Twitter, mandates, vaccine circles on Facebook, and cliched statements like ‘trust the science’ being uttered. I’ve noticed some ‘astrologers’ even are partaking in this delusion and being naive. It makes me feel like an alien witnessing human folly. What’s happening? Is this the fruit of past karma ripening? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted September 19, 2021 01:10 PM
I agree. Fear is a powerful influencer for many people. It's not that things are all of a sudden becoming super corrupt and controlled in government etc, but that some of us are becoming more and more conscious to it--a very Pluto in Capricorn theme. Pluto represents collective shadow, plutocrats/plutocracy, and more positively becoming more conscious of shadow. Capricorn correlates with larger, complex organizations like government. Don't be surprised if this thread gets moved to Global Unity 2. If you want it to stay here, you'll have to keep focused on the astrological side of things, and not the political. But yes, currently I feel like we are living in a giant Milgram experiment, and just like in that experiment, only a minority of people are seeing through authority. I've been very disappointed in my social circle which is almost all left/progressive leaning. They are utterly clueless to what is really going on. I'm not part of the right, and originally used to lean left/progressive (in some ways, perhaps somewhat radically so), but I left that manipulation paradigm a long time ago. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted September 19, 2021 03:57 PM
I don't know if it's naivety...It's been in the making for a while. Pluto in Capp had been working underground on this, and the December 2019 eclipse on its axis brought things to our human awareness. I could have written word for word what GalacticCoreExplosionV2 said. I no longer relate with the left at the moment. Nor do I relate with the right though I am finding more common ground with the right at the moment. All my left/progressist friends have now become staunch supporters of Big Pharma, media censorship of dissent, big government bullying of the common man. That is not naivety. That is a perversion of the human psyche, and it has happened throughout history. But Pluto in the end regenerates. It leaves a sign after it has done its deadly work and teaching. Pluto is not done with Capp yet. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 19, 2021 04:07 PM
Oh, come on. This doesn’t belong in astrology 2.0, and no, we are not naive. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 19, 2021 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
I don't know if it's naivety...It's been in the making for a while. Pluto in Capp had been working underground on this, and the December 2019 eclipse on its axis brought things to our human awareness. I could have written word for word what GalacticCoreExplosionV2 said. I no longer relate with the left at the moment. Nor do I relate with the right though I am finding more common ground with the right at the moment. All my left/progressist friends have now become staunch supporters of Big Pharma, media censorship of dissent, big government bullying of the common man. That is not naivety. That is a perversion of the human psyche, and it has happened throughout history. But Pluto in the end regenerates. It leaves a sign after it has done its deadly work and teaching. Pluto is not done with Capp yet.
And you are wrong, too. You do know that the emergency-approved regeneron, costs something like $200 more than the vaccine, right? And the vaccine is free to American citizens. The people pushing regeneron and HCQ, are the real supporters of “big pharma”. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted September 19, 2021 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
And you are wrong, too. You do know that the emergency-approved regeneron, costs something like $200 more than the vaccine, right? And the vaccine is free to American citizens. The people pushing regeneron and HCQ, are the real supporters of “big pharma”.
Regeneron? There is no one I know that's pushing for Regeneron. Have you EVER seen Regeneron pushed here in Lindaland Global Unity2? The answer is a resounding: NO! So stop it with your baiting! Here on LL, You have seen people pushing Ivermectin, Vit D, Vit C, HCQ, Quercetin, all things that are not dominated by Big Pharma. Your entire post is moot and truly a waste of time to even address. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 19, 2021 04:23 PM
Is this going to be moved? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted September 19, 2021 04:26 PM
This subject seems to trigger you. If you have nothing astrological to add to this thread, stay out of it! So far, people have brought new insight into how Pluto in Capp is operating. If you have some other astro insight you can share to illuminate your own position, by all means go ahead. But I am not holding my breath. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted September 19, 2021 08:24 PM
I followed the science, and when I pulled back the curtain, I found corruption, and an unholy alliance between the FDA and Pharmaceutical corporations: http://youtu.be/7fQ6JklHjBc IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 19, 2021 10:33 PM
It's pretty funny that I have been trying to avoid this stuff, and look what was in the parking lot of our grocery store: http://i.imgur.com/GhlE0c6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xRk4fre.jpg That's just one side of it. Both sides and the back were covered. So this is all on-topic for this forum now? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted September 19, 2021 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
It's pretty funny that I have been trying to avoid this stuff, and look what was in the parking lot of our grocery store: http://i.imgur.com/GhlE0c6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xRk4fre.jpg That's just one side of it. Both sides and the back were covered. So this is all on-topic for this forum now?
would love to be a fly on the wall if you and the owner of the van started "talking" to each other about Covid.  IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted September 20, 2021 01:10 AM
Couple astrological ideas:
Baden’s vaccination mandate was signed in Retrograde Mercury. Could it be overturned when Mercury goes direct?
Tr. Lilith/NN and tr.Uranus sq tr. Saturn Jupiter midpoint might have something to do, I’m not sure how midpoints are legit in transits.I see people are getting vaccinated under pressure or because they don’t want problems what has nothing to do with health. It’s not nativity, but dictatorship and heavy manipulations. Some are afraid to say something against. The others are used to do what they were told.
It doesn’t work. Take a boost. Boost is also causing side effects and doesn’t have enough proofs. Talking about the another boost, So we are mindlessly keep putting one shot after another before they are happy with the result?!
There’re many reports about people quitting jobs under the pressure to be vaccinated. I would never think something like that can happen to me. However, it’s just insult added to injury for me why I’m surprised. 
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lalalinda
Moderator Posts: 5242
From: nevada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2021 04:42 AM
Do you realize that if Donald had just left the Pandemic Response team in place and not shut it down because Obama put it in place, we could have avoided losing 500k plus Americans during this pandemic? Not only that but we could have shared it with the world and avoided this mess, Trump would be the hero and President now if it wasn't for his spite.Ask any family member who lost someone if they had it to do over again would they vaccinate and they will tell you YES! As for the pharma companies, it's about money and they're all a bunch of Martin Shkrelys. respectfully moving this to GU2
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PhoenixRising
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posted September 20, 2021 10:41 AM
I'm glad we kicked Grump out of the white house. Never elect a business man to the white house, no matter what. All they care is profit and will sell u. Also avoid radio which is full of American capitalism and fascist supporting agents of the Devils. Only one radio and that is voice of reason and freedom should exist.
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Randall
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posted September 20, 2021 11:08 AM
President Trump never closed down the pandemic team. This has been debunked. He only moved it. That was fake news. He also closed down flights from China after the first case appeared here. Biden would not have done so. Biden called him a xenophobe for doing it, but later Biden said it was the right thing to do. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2021 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
I'm glad we kicked Grump out of the white house. Never elect a business man to the white house, no matter what. All they care is profit and will sell u. Also avoid radio which is full of American capitalism and fascist supporting agents of the Devils. Only one radio and that is voice of reason and freedom should exist.
Thanks for the admission that you prefer the demented F-UP Joe Blow Biden who screws up everything he touches to Donald Trump who got America moving in the right direction after 8 failed years of the inept, incompetent, bungling Obama/O'Biden administration. You're the 'Wrong Way Corrigan' of LindaLand. IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 4938
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2021 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Do you realize that if Donald had just left the Pandemic Response team in place and not shut it down because Obama put it in place, we could have avoided losing 500k plus Americans during this pandemic? Not only that but we could have shared it with the world and avoided this mess, Trump would be the hero and President now if it wasn't for his spite.
This was actually debunked: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/16/no-white-hous e-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/ I urge you if you have any ounce of integrity to read the link above, a piece written in the Washington Post, not in Fox News, by Tim Morrisson, the official who led the very directorate assigned to that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post. I was mindlessly repeating your same drone misinformation in the spring of 2020 until Jwhop straighten me out by showing me this WaPo piece. And I realized that once more, I had fallen for shameless democrats propaganda. Why do you think I am no longer a democrat? IP: Logged |
lalalinda
Moderator Posts: 5242
From: nevada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2021 02:55 PM
Belage I read your link, thanks for posting it. Here's another one from Snopes if you're interested. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/?fbclid=IwAR3cxfkcBPjZl9fc9rhp-BPvWqSoGX9XUyhWUfgWcXVLlJrxPYvbcrM_NG4  Jwhop ------------------
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PhoenixRising
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posted September 20, 2021 02:59 PM
Jwhop, Give me anyone but the Elitist Rh- bloodline Grump. We were done with the Queen of England long ago. No more elitists in the white house. It is time Earth people have freedom and chose for themselves. Not sure what Biden is. Not bad as long as he is compassionate. All his mistakes forgiven  IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted September 20, 2021 03:03 PM
Thanks lala. I thought we cleared that argument long ago. Not sure why people believe the misinformation still. STOP BEING SHEEPS. THINK FOR YOURSELF. FULL MOON IN PISCES TODAY BECKONS.
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Belage
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posted September 20, 2021 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Belage I read your link, thanks for posting it. Here's another one from Snopes if you're interested. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/?fbclid=IwAR3cxfkcBPjZl9fc9rhp-BPvWqSoGX9XUyhWUfgWcXVLlJrxPYvbcrM_NG4 Jwhop
Your Snopes pieces was updated March 13, 2020. The article I linked from WaPo was dated March 16, 2020, so your Snopes piece does not take into consideration the information this official who was high level in that office came forward with. And after he came forward with this, no one in high level capacity in that organization has publicly contradicted him or offered an different explanation. But the original misinformation continues unabated. When you throw **** to the wall, some of it falls off. Some of it sticks. By the way, Snopes used to be a respected medium, until it too got bought out by certain interest groups, the same ones that bought Wikipedia and turn these into partisans hacks. ETA: I don't know if this is enough for you to change your mind. But at the very least, it should make you pause before you make the claim that you made as though it was certifiably true.
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PhoenixRising
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posted September 20, 2021 05:57 PM
One of the many pitfalls of half truths perpetuated by Fascist radio jocks, agents of Devil You are not free from any government unless self governed and in USA it is prohibited. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted September 20, 2021 06:07 PM
Hi Belage, We're both right also both "technically" wrong.Don't like snopes? how about Reuters fact check? This touches on both of our claims. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-trump-fired-pandemic-team/partly-false-claim-trump-fired-entire-pandemic-response-team-in-2018-idUSKBN21C32M In truth, early preparation, education and masks could have saved thousands of lives. Jwhop ------------------
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Belage
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posted September 20, 2021 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hi Belage, We're both right also both "technically" wrong.Don't like snopes? how about Reuters fact check? This touches on both of our claims. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-trump-fired-pandemic-team/partly-false-claim-trump-fired-entire-pandemic-response-team-in-2018-idUSKBN21C32M In truth, early preparation, education and masks could have saved thousands of lives. Jwhop
If anything, this Reuters article states 2 important things that disprove the claim that Trump had "shut down the Pandemic Response Team". The statement by Tim Morrison in WaPo opinion dated March 16, 2020:
Tim Morrison, former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the NSC, wrote in another Washington Post Op-Ed, “It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. … One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled” And the statement from John Bolton, another high official on that Pandemic team: On March 14, 2020, John Bolton described the changes made to the team as streamlining. He tweeted: “Claims that streamlining NSC structures impaired our nation's bio defense are false. Global health remained a top NSC priority, and its expert team was critical to effectively handling the 2018-19 Africa Ebola crisis. The angry Left just can't stop attacking, even in a crisis.” Those were high ranking officials on the pandemic team. That Joe Biden for obvious partisan reasons chose to ignore the statements of those high ranking officials and tweeted on March 19 without any proof whatsoever to back up his claims that:
“The Obama-Biden Administration set up the White House National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense to prepare for future pandemics like COVID-19. Donald Trump eliminated it — and now we're paying the price.” Does not make this claim true. Again, I don't think I will change your mind, but perhaps you might be a little less fanatical in the way you make that claim, as though it is certifiably true. IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2021 06:42 PM
@lalalinda,I am not used to your posting much, and I am ot familiar with you, but I appreciated our exchange and I hope you will continue to post in this forum. We need a balance of viewpoints, and intelligent and rational people on both sides of the fences. IP: Logged |
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