posted November 08, 2021 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Obama’s investments in clean energy were in companies that went bankrupt.

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Yeah, Obama's 'Green Energy' initiatives were a total bust!

[S]o far, 36 companies that have received federal support from taxpayers have either gone bankrupt or are laying off workers and are heading for bankruptcy. This list includes only those companies that received federal money from the Obama Administration’s Department of Energy. The amount of money indicated does not reflect how much was actually received or spent but how much was offered. The amount also does not include other state, local, and federal tax credits and subsidies, which push the amount of money these companies have received from taxpayers even higher.

The complete list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies:

Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($69 million)*
AES’s subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.5 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)
Fisker Automotive ($528 million)
Abound Solar ($374 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Schneider Electric ($86 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*
UniSolar ($100 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($120 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($150 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($10 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*

posted November 08, 2021 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Yeah, Obama's 'Green Energy' initiatives were a total bust!

So far, 36 companies that have received federal support from taxpayers have either gone bankrupt or are laying off workers and are heading for bankruptcy. This list includes only those companies that received federal money from the Obama Administration’s Department of Energy. The amount of money indicated does not reflect how much was actually received or spent but how much was offered. The amount also does not include other state, local, and federal tax credits and subsidies, which push the amount of money these companies have received from taxpayers even higher.

The complete list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies:

Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($69 million)*
AES’s subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.5 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)
Fisker Automotive ($528 million)
Abound Solar ($374 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Schneider Electric ($86 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*
UniSolar ($100 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($120 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($150 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($10 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*

*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/127128-list-the-36-obama-funded-green-energy-failures/ [/B]

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I still remember the 2011 Solyndra scandal. It left taxpayers liable for $535 million in federal guarantees.

From the WaPo, at the time when it was still doing real investigative journalism:

posted November 08, 2021 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
America had been the leading exporter of natural gas for years. Now we are importing it. The countries who export natural gas are as sending it to countries where they are having emergencies. That means much less for us. Supply and demand. We are seeing the highest prices for natural gas in years. Translation: A very expensive winter for the poor and middle class.

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Worrisome here. We use it by evil luck we live in a new popsicle zone. I'm cold often because my natural default is to a tropical heat. Rather dry heat is my body pref. I hope this will be less tyrannical than it is seeming. Electric is spendy and we have too little money, space to get those heaters in here.

posted November 08, 2021 03:16 PM            

Yes, we talked about the Solyndra scandal extensively here...as well as the other Obama/O'Biden era 'green energy' scams from his administration. None of which produced a damned thing of value to America. They only enriched his fat cat donors at taxpayer expense...some to the tune of more than a billion dollars each, more than Solyndra.

posted November 08, 2021 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"From the WaPo, at the time when it was still doing real investigative journalism:"

Yes, we talked about the Solyndra scandal extensively here...as well as the other Obama/O'Biden era 'green energy' scams from his administration. None of which produced a damned thing of value to America. They only enriched his fat cat donors at taxpayer expense...some to the tune of more than a billion dollars each, more than Solyndra.

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posted November 08, 2021 09:12 PM            

Anyways, this fall/winter season, I plan on building simple, inexpensive Solar heaters for our house.

The basic idea is that you take some large cardboard boxes and reinforce them on the outside with waterproof wood glue and fiberglass cloth, and treat the inside with silicone. Put a slightly smaller cardboard box into a slightly larger one, and well insulate the space in between (many different materials could be used).

Paint the inside black, and then get some soda bottles, mason jars, or the like, fill them up with a combo of water and car coolant (or glycerin if you want to be more eco--these raise the boiling temps a bit, along with lower the freezing point), paint these black as well. Put a glass or clear top of some kind over it (preferably insulated..creating your own double pane, vacuum insulated glass panels is probably actually easier than one may realize).

Glue a Solar panel powered fan on the outside, and then run some insulated ducting to a window with some foam cut to shape to fit in the window with a hole that connects to the ducting. Have a insulated flap velcroed on that can put up or down depending on if it's running or not. Also have another Solar panel powered fan on the inside of the window sucking in the air from the "hot box". Put this on your roof or some place where you get some consistent sun.

Anyways, the fan will turn on when there is sun and turn off when there isn't any. Cover the hole with the well insulated flap when there is no sun.

It's a little more complicated in actuality in the details and specifics, but this is the general idea.

posted November 09, 2021 08:49 AM            

GCE -- nice idea for the summer. People here looking for cheap heat. We need to pass electricity through a coil for example. Problem is there isn't much of sun in the winter.