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Topic: Republicans, you say you don't want Deep State?
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Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2022 07:52 PM
  
... And the military industrial complex messing with you? The Russia-Ukraine conflict is YOUR opportunity to steer the dialogue into how this conflict could have been avoided if the West had only agreed to give guarantee to Putin that Ukraine would not join NATO. The West has steadily encircled Russia since the fall of the URSS some 30 years ago and has steadily advanced NATO toward Russia's doorsteps in spite of having promised not to do so. You don't have to approve of what Putin did, but please stop acting indignant and pretend Russia doesn't have reasons to feel threatened, the same way the US would feel threatened if Mexico and/or Canada entered into a military alliance with a foreign power that you do not trust. The US hyperventilates when a country in Latin America turns "leftist" and see it as a personal strategic threat and has no problem cutting off its life support and would invade it if it could. If you republicans do not tell Americans the truth about the real reasons behind the conflict and how it could have been avoided, then stop complaining about Deep State and military industrial complex and alladat. You might as well embrace the reality that your country will start wars and will send your sons and daughters to fight wars that do not benefit you, but the interests of the Deep State and military industrial complex. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted February 28, 2022 09:15 PM
Also the west hoodwinked Ukraine.
It did not come to its rescue as promised by them.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted February 28, 2022 09:24 PM
^^^ Yep.Back in December 16, 2021, NATO dangled before Ukraine the promise that it would be able to join NATO. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/16/world/europe/ukraine-nato-russia.html Where is NATO now when Ukrainians are in the hell trenches of warfare? Ukrainians may not be ready to hear this truth now, but maybe years from now, they will see how they have been shamelessly manipulated. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted February 28, 2022 09:29 PM
And the average Americans who feeds on media propaganda may not be ready to see how they are being manipulated. The same way they were being manipulated back in 2003 when the US concocted "weapons of mass destructions" hoax to start a war with Irak. It took the American public years to see how it had been hoodwinked. After all the Iraki and American lives lost or maimed, and our taxpayers' money looted to support this war, the only winners were Halliburton and the military industrial complex. I'd like to think people have learned their lesson and will not need years to see that wool is being pulled over their eyes again. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted March 01, 2022 08:41 AM
Most people aren't interested in potent, objective truth, but in beliefs and belief systems (and with belonging to some sort of group/group think collective). It is much like Plato's allegory of the cave. Potent, objective truth is like the bright Light in same. IP: Logged |
Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 02, 2022 04:07 PM
^^^ Unfortunately. Or should I say... predictably. Russell Brand is one of the few ones daring to start TIMIDLY talking about the factors that have potentially led to this invasion - including NATO's expansion and Putin’s worldview regarding Ukraine. https://youtu.be/C5ZXTF2phNU I was listening to Bannon's War Room and they too talk about the geopolitical factors that lead to this, instead of just giving the official narrative that has been embraced by mainstream media and democrats and republicans alike. So there is hope. IP: Logged |
Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 02, 2022 04:12 PM
We are being led from CRISIS to CRISIS. Once a crisis stops, another one starts. All manmade. It's been like that for a few years now. Personally, I am done letting my emotions be manipulated for nefarious purposes. I am taking back control of my emotions. IP: Logged |
Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 08, 2022 05:03 PM
Looks like some people do get it. Episode 1,691 – The Economic War On Russia And America; The Vital National Security Interest Of The US
https://warroom.org/2022/03/08/episode-1691- the-economic-war-on-russia-and-america-the-vital-national-security-interest-of-the-us/ I also read comments under certain youtube videos I watch, and many people posting there are not falling for the okey dokey.
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shura
Knowflake Posts: 3459
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 08, 2022 05:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
We are being led from CRISIS to CRISIS. Once a crisis stops, another one starts. All manmade. It's been like that for a few years now. Personally, I am done letting my emotions be manipulated for nefarious purposes. I am taking back control of my emotions.
if nothing else (and it's plenty else), this is clear psychological terrorism. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 08, 2022 08:52 PM
I'm glad to hear that you will be ignoring any republicans clutching their pearls over everything then. I hope you'll stop blaming Biden, for Putin's decision to commit genocide in Ukraine. CRT is no big deal, don't let your emotions be manipulated. Same goes for the trans kids and adults out there. Leave them alone, they're just trying to live their lives. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 08, 2022 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
if nothing else (and it's plenty else), this is clear psychological terrorism.
No it isn't. But of course, you gloss over domestic terrorism, and call the perpetrators "patriots". Covid is real, Putin is a sociopath. IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted March 08, 2022 09:48 PM
They officially banned Oil import. I think everybody already noticed prices jump.
https://www.reuters.com/business/biden-bans-russia-oil-imports-us-warns-gasoline-prices-will-rise-further-2022-03-08/
By the graphics US gas might be not that big for Russia.
I see many graphics don’t even acknowledge oil import from Russia. I found it’s 13% over there https://thehill.com/policy/international/597389-heres-where-us-gas-supplies-come-fromSo who will be suffering more? Sanctions are actually worked pretty good for Putin (not for the country). The rabbi from the news also pointed that. It’s actually a common political trick to find an outside enemy when a country is divided. Do they want to do the same with US?
On one side, Americans have a different mentality for suffering. Russians are more comfortable with suffering and sacrifices. On the other side, possible… Belage, thank you for bringing the information here. I’m impressed Russell Brand spoke out. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 3459
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 08, 2022 10:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
I'm glad to hear that you will be ignoring any republicans clutching their pearls over everything then. I hope you'll stop blaming Biden, for Putin's decision to commit genocide in Ukraine. CRT is no big deal, don't let your emotions be manipulated. Same goes for the trans kids and adults out there. Leave them alone, they're just trying to live their lives.
 Do us all a favor and google the definition of "genocide" you bootlicking fascist
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Belage
Knowflake Posts: 5908
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 09, 2022 01:53 PM
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Belage
Knowflake Posts: 5908
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posted March 09, 2022 01:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
I'm glad to hear that you will be ignoring any republicans clutching their pearls over everything then. I hope you'll stop blaming Biden, for Putin's decision to commit genocide in Ukraine.
I think you need to talk to your girl, Joy Reid of MSNBC. She thinks all your concerns about Ukraine is a symptom of White Supremacy. So, is she right? Is your whiteness showing? And i have no intention to stop blaming Biden, his admin, the deep state and the military industrial complex for what is happening now in Ukraine. If you had any knowledge of history and geopolitics, you would too, instead of being a mouthpiece for the establishment. Do you ever have any independent thought of your own??? Are you even capable of independent thinking? IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 5908
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 09, 2022 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
CRT is no big deal, don't let your emotions be manipulated. Same goes for the trans kids and adults out there. Leave them alone, they're just trying to live their lives.
whenever I hear you talking (you being the strongest proponent and defender of abortion in this forum, you, the strongest proponent of vaccinating kids who are not at risk of Covid with an experimental vaccine), I have a hard time taking anything you say seriously about trans kids. Your faux concern about them does not fool anyone. Do you really understand what it means to protect children????? If you really cared about transkids, instead of advocating they be subject to hormonal manipulation and surgical mutilation at an age when they cannot understand the long terms and life chancing repercussions of those procedures, you would advocate they receive mental health services and support to help them deal with their body dysmorphia, until they are capable and legally able to make their own decision about their bodies when they turn 18.
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