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Topic: No, There Weren’t Any Chinese Balloons Flying In America Under President Trump
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 6556 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2023 12:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: Nope, it's not the so called rabid advocate that bothers me.It's the Koch Foundation and the other Globalist, America Last millionaires and billionaires who are funding DeSantis this I won't look past. He's taking their money, he's going to be their lap dog.
About 6 days ago, the Koch foundation decided they will no longer give money to DT. But they contributed to his organization for years. So was Trump the lapdog for the Koch foundation all those years he took their money? Did you look past the fact DT was taking the Koch money all these years and why? https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/powerful-koch-brothers-political-network-044406489.html IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 168175 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2023 05:43 PM
Except that the January 6 rioters were none of the things you just accused them of. And what’s wrong with being associated with the Koch brothers?IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 3772 From: kamaloka Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 11, 2023 09:00 PM
As I said several months ago, DeSantis and Trump share the same handlers. Trump is cranky because those handlers have moved on. He was useful, but (it seems) not the Chosen One. Who knows ofc. Maybe the handlers will change their minds. Maybe they have plans for Orange Man. Trust the plan as the Qtards say lol
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 168175 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2023 08:20 AM
And now a third one.IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 6556 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2023 11:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Except that the January 6 rioters were none of the things you just accused them of.
There were for sure agents provocateurs steering the breaking into the Capitol building, but we cannot deny that many Trump supporters exercised poor judgement and broke the law that day. quote: Originally posted by Randall: And what’s wrong with being associated with the Koch brothers?
Uh! Don't ask me, ask Jwhop who brought it up as a DeSantis issue, while apparently forgetting the Koch Brothers used to bankroll DT.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 18457 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2023 03:02 PM
The Koch brothers, now one brother are China butt boys and Globalists who want open borders and low wage foreign workers. They found out Trump wasn't anyone's lap dog when Trump instituted tight border controls, built the border wall and put tariffs on China.Now, the Koch foundation is pushing DeSantis who will be more 'sensitive' to the mega--donor's wishes....but not to the interests of ordinary citizens. Just for the record, the Trump/Koch alliance came to a halt in early 2018...if it ever existed....just over a year into Trump's presidency. Koch and his various organizations are enemies of MAGA and America First. Club for Growth Invites Ron DeSantis to Join Wall Street Controlled Republican Candidates Haley, Pompeo, Pence, Youngkin and Scott for 2024 Planning Session at Donor Retreat The idea that Koch, the brothers Koch or Koch foundations were big donors to Trump ARE FALSE. "Trump and the AFP have butted heads in recent years after Charles Koch refused to spend the network’s money to influence the 2016 presidential election in Trump’s favor." Trump won 2016 easily and had this to say about Koch aligned PACs and foundations. "In a series of tweets in 2018, Trump fired back at the Koch-backed group for saying it would distance itself from him and other top Republicans who didn’t support their agenda. ((Open Borders and Unfair trade with China.)) The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade. I never sought their support because I don’t need their money or bad ideas,” Trump tweeted." IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 6556 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2023 05:19 PM
^^^Ok. I researched the issue further and I stand corrected. My in-depth research show that Trump was not directly backed by the Koch Brothers. Way back in 2016, they refused to back Trump's candidacy, though they continue to invest in the Republican party, which may have indirectly helped DT. So I will go on record to say that I was wrong, that Trump did not receive money from the Koch Brothers. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 18457 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2023 05:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: ^^^Ok. I researched the issue further and I stand corrected. My in-depth research show that Trump was not directly backed by the Koch Brothers. Way back in 2016, they refused to back Trump's candidacy, though they continue to invest in the Republican party, which may have indirectly helped DT. So I will go on record to say that I was wrong, that Trump did not receive money from the Koch Brothers.
No problem. It's a common misconception that the Koch brothers backed Trump and helped fund his 2016 campaign. But, that was never likely. Trump campaigned on closing the southern border to illegal aliens and cracking down on China. Both are anathema to Koch and his organizations. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 6556 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2023 07:51 PM
^^^ Yeah, I get it now. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 168175 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2023 03:02 PM
And now there have been four since February 4.IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 1645 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted February 13, 2023 09:22 PM
US shoots down another unidentified object as a senior official doesn’t rule out ‘aliens’
The "senior official" is Commander of USNORTHCOM, Glen VanHerck, who is quoted during a Pentagon briefing. http://english.sawtbeirut.com/world/us-shoots-down- another-unidentified-object-as-a-senior-official-doesnt-rule-out-aliens/ Kash Patel, former Chief of Staff at DOD, when asked about VanHerck's statement: quote: As the guy who was Chief of Staff at DOD, VanHerck used to work for me. I know the guy. And you’re right. NORTHCOM is responsible for the geographic territory that is the United States of America and North America. And for the military’s leader at NORTHCOM to come out and say we are maybe talking about space aliens is the most hyperbolic statement that a military uniformed officer could make. And one he no doubt made in conjunction with the White House so that the internet and the media could set itself ablaze talking about aliens. The only thing we should be talking about is China, the CCP, and Russia and what they’ve been doing to our country and in terms of intelligence intrusion operations since Joe Biden took over. This is the one glaring thing that his deputy didn’t talk about. Of course he didn’t think it’s all from China or Russia, that’s exactly where it’s coming from.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 168175 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2023 10:26 PM
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 1645 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted February 13, 2023 10:27 PM
Patel's assessment regarding the Administration/DOD handling of the Chinese balloon + 3 objects:
quote: These people don’t have a collective narrative straight because they are running away from the truth. They are trying to get their stories straight in the media rather than actually basing intelligence decisions to protect this country on actual facts. You have the head of NORAD talking about UFOs and aliens instead of talking about how we protect against China and Russia. And if that is not the biggest failure of this administration when it comes to the last two weeks I don’t know what is.
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 1645 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted February 13, 2023 10:51 PM
The Biden Administration is Lying about the Chinese Balloon
quote: ...the bankrupt “brain” trust that surrounds Joe Biden failed to anticipate the political and public reaction for doing nothing to protect American air space until the balloon was over the ocean. Instead of being seen as a strong decision maker, Biden was lampooned as an addled dementia patient who failed to protect America from a potentially lethal balloon.The balloon (and Biden’s reputation) were not the only casualties from this bit of National Security Kabuki theater. Biden also blew a gaping hole in the U.S. relations with China. Biden could have phoned his good friend, General Secretary Xi Jingping, and shared his concerns about the balloon. But instead of using diplomacy and keep the lines of communication with China open, Biden insulted his financial benefactors and created a predicate for shooting down stray aircraft and balloons that the Chinese are certain to use against us when the opportunity presents itself.
http://sonar21.com/the-biden-administration-is-lying-about-the-chinese-balloon/
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 1645 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted February 15, 2023 06:00 PM
Lawmakers demand Biden address nation on UFO incursions http://thehill.com/homenews/3856419-lawmakers-demand-biden-address-nation-on-ufo-incursions/ Why hasn't Joe Biden addressed the nation and given the American people an explanation? Kash Patel, former Chief of Staff, DOD: quote: He can’t and it’s an embarrassment and we’re losing across the board. He’s continuously lying by not providing us the intelligence that shows the initial point of collection detection, which we had after it left mainland China. He continues to lie to the Senate. He continues to lie to the Oversight Committees. And China won’t even take the phone calls from the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman [of the Joint Chiefs], a Chairman who said he would warn his counterpart in the Trump Administration should we attack him. These guys are laughing at us. And they’re saying they are going to take decisive action. My concern - let’s put the balloons aside - is the fact that China and the CCP have probably conducted a dozen cyber intrusions while we’ve been looking up at the air and gasping for leadership from our Commander-in-Chief, which is why I don’t think it’s a coincidence that you have railroad switches and electric grid accidents across America at this time. They are all interrelated in my opinion. And Joe Biden will not address them because he knows it is a tectonic failure of leadership. And were he to go to the camera he would be destroyed, so they are of course hiding him in his basement.
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