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Dhyana
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posted April 03, 2023 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lawyer Robert Barnes re the law on gag orders

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A gag order would be in violation of the First Amendment. Generally speaking, gag orders in a criminal context are unconstitutional, whether applied to the lawyer or applied to the defendant. It has to be very narrowly tailored and they have to show a compelling public interest. So, for example, on the eve of a jury trial [they can] restrain what someone can say that won’t come into evidence at the trial. That’s the very limited scope in which higher courts have allowed gag orders. Otherwise, they’re just flat out unconstitutional.

So if this judge attempts to do that it will show again this judge’s incapacity to be impartial, [it will] show the political prejudice and prosecutorial tendencies of this prosecution if they request such a gag order. It will be a First Amendment violation. I’m sure the president will take it up on appeal immediately all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States and it’s the kind of case the Supreme Court is likely to take because if by merely charging someone you can prevent your political opponent from campaigning, then that would be a serious problem…The judge can try a gag order, it may be temporarily enforceable, but it’s not constitutionally enforceable and I anticipate it’ll be set aside if the judge does it.


http://rumble.com/v2fwg1q-ep.-154-trump-indicted-meme-maker-convicte d-canadian-army-woke-viva-and-bar.html

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posted April 03, 2023 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
Lawyer Robert Barnes re the law on gag orders

http://rumble.com/v2fwg1q-ep.-154-trump-indicted-meme-maker-convicte d-canadian-army-woke-viva-and-bar.html


If this leftist judge attempts to impose a gag order in this star chamber trial of Donald Trump, I hope his attorneys will immediately file a motion to vacate this judge's order and file for a change of venue. Every defendant is entitled to a fair and impartial trial venue.

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posted April 03, 2023 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If this leftist judge attempts to impose a gag order in this star chamber trial of Donald Trump, I hope his attorneys will immediately file a motion to vacate this judge's order and file for a change of venue. Every defendant is entitled to a fair and impartial trial venue.

Yes, like Upstate NY or Staten Island. Barnes also mentioned he's not impressed with President Trump's lawyers. He says Alan Dershowitz has a track record of success and would be the right lawyer to lead in this case.

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posted April 03, 2023 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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President Trump Raises OVER $4 MILLION IN 24 HOURS after indictment. Includes 1 Million from first time donors.


Donald Trump’s Fundraising Soars $7 Million After Indictment

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posted April 03, 2023 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Donald Trump’s Fundraising Soars $7 Million After Indictment

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Trump Campaign Fund Raiser of the Month:

ALVIN BRAGG



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posted April 04, 2023 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And now $8 million!

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posted April 04, 2023 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does he need your money?

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posted April 04, 2023 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That doesn’t even include all of the tens of millions of dollars of free press this will get President Trump. With all of the pretrial motions, this could stretch out for quite a while. President Trump had gone quiet for a bit, but now he is all the news programs ever talk about, and he has soared past DeSantis in every poll.

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posted April 04, 2023 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Dems must truly fear President Trump to try to take him out with a fake crime. This is the weakest case imaginable.

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posted April 04, 2023 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Dems must truly fear President Trump to try to take him out with a fake crime. This is the weakest case imaginable.

The democrats truly do fear Donald Trump, down to the marrow of their bones. So much so that they have abandoned all principles and ideals (i.e., democracy) in their ruthless effort to destroy one man. The democrat party is destroying itself. The democrat party is a dying party. So too the party of Bush, McCain, and McConnell. To say they won't "go gently" is a great understatement.

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Do not go gentle into that good night...

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


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posted April 04, 2023 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, like Upstate NY or Staten Island. Barnes also mentioned he's not impressed with President Trump's lawyers. He says Alan Dershowitz has a track record of success and would be the right lawyer to lead in this case.


I watched as Alan Dershowitz explained why he isn't part of Trump's defense team. He said his defense is a one of a kind action, that he doesn't make a habit of defending the same defendant more than once. Also, that he's more interested in upholding 'the rule of law' than defending individuals. Dershowitz is adamant that Trump can't get a fair trial in Manhattan and the venue should be changed. Also adamant that the case and charges against Trump have no legal merit.

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posted April 04, 2023 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After seeing jwhop’s thread earlier, I’m going to toast to rumpy being indicted. I’m going to celebrate. I usually don’t celebrate bad things happening to people, even if they’ve done me wrong. But he wants bad things to happen to people who disagree with him, or just plain don’t like him.

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posted April 04, 2023 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We fear the fascism. We don’t fear trump himself.

You just really be afraid of democrats, the way you act in here. You must really be afraid of Hillary, and Biden, and Obama. Right?

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posted April 04, 2023 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I watched as Alan Dershowitz explained why he isn't part of Trump's defense team. He said his defense is a one of a kind action, that he doesn't make a habit of defending the same defendant more than once. Also, that he's more interested in upholding 'the rule of law' than defending individuals. Dershowitz is adamant that Trump can't get a fair trial in Manhattan and the venue should be changed. Also adamant that the case and charges against Trump have no legal merit.

He’s a ******* who doesn’t care about the law.

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posted April 04, 2023 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He’s a ******* who doesn’t care about the law.

Nuts!
Alan Dershowitz, a true liberal, has spent 60 years of his life defending the Constitution and 'rule of law'.

But, I understand where you're coming from. Alan Dershowitz is not one of the Marxist Communist Socialist Progressive America hating extremists you love so much.

Nor is Alan Dershowitz an admirer of fascist pig criminals like Biden and his fascist cadre in the White House.

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posted April 04, 2023 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quit pretending that you care about the law, teasel.

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posted April 04, 2023 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a margarita on Friday. What should I toast with tonight?

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posted April 04, 2023 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're delirious or high....perhaps both.
Hillary The Corrupt deleted emails under subpoena, bleach bit her devices and used hammers on her devices to avoid turning over emails to congressional investigators.

Hillary The Corrupt, guilty as hell.
Trump, the most investigated man in US history is innocent.

Demorats will pay the price in the next election.
Thanks Bragg for electing Trump the next President of the United States.



Nope. You are wrong on all counts.

Sorry. Just saw this. Wasn’t paying attention to you before, and I will stop again now.

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posted April 04, 2023 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He had an affair (what would jesus think?), paid off the porn star he had an affair with, and then pretended it was a business expense, and wrote it off on his taxes.

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posted April 04, 2023 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have dinner, and wine, and I'm going to toast this day.

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posted April 04, 2023 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JUST IN: Federal Appeals Court Awards Trump Additional $122,000 in Attorney Fees From Stormy Daniels

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/just-in-federal-appeals-court-awards-trump-additional-122000-in-attorney-fees-from-stormy-daniels/

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posted April 04, 2023 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He had an affair (what would jesus think?), paid off the porn star he had an affair with, and then pretended it was a business expense, and wrote it off on his taxes.

Stormy already said there was no affair. She lied to get money. She is the only one who committed a crime. That’s extortion/blackmail. Hush money isn’t illegal. Bill Clinton paid $850,000. At least President Trump got a better deal. He reimbursed his lawyer. The IRS already determined there were no tax crimes. So, just stop acting stupid. What you can toast is that Biden is toast. You are always the only one here mentioning Jesus.

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posted April 04, 2023 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Stormy Daniels pay-off at the heart of the case against Trump

The case against Donald Trump makes mention of payoffs to three people, but the former president is facing criminal charges for settlements made with one of them: porn star Stormy Daniels, identified in charging documents as Woman 2.

A reminder that Donald Trump denies he had an affair with Daniels and has pleaded not guilty to all of the charges against him.

Here's what the prosecutors have to say:

They mention the infamous Access Hollywood tape which emerged during the 2016 election campaign, showing Trump bragging that he would grab women by their genitals
After the leak, Trump and his campaign staff "were concerned that the tape would harm his viability as a candidate and reduce his standing with female voters in particular"

Sometime after the tape was revealed to the public, AMI executives learned of "another woman who alleged she had a sexual encounter with [Trump] while he was married" - Daniels - and contacted Michael Cohen

Cohen negotiated a deal with Daniels' lawyer for her silence over the affair, in order to "prevent disclosure of the damaging information in the final weeks before the presidential election"

Trump did not want to make the $130,000 payment and directed Cohen to delay for as possible, because "if they could delay the payment until after the election, they could avoid paying altogether, because at that point it would not matter if the story became public"

But - "with pressure mounting and the election approaching" - Trump "agreed to the payoff" and "confirmed" he would pay Cohen back

On or about 27 October 2016, Cohen made the payment via a wire transfer to Daniels' lawyer

After being elected president, Trump is accused of paying Cohen the money back in payments falsely recorded as being for for "legal services"

"In total, 34 false entries were made in New York business records to conceal the initial covert $130,000 payment," the prosecutors say

Trump and his allies undertook "a public and private pressure campaign to ensure that [Cohen] did not cooperate with law enforcement", but Cohen ultimately pleaded guilty in a federal investigation

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posted April 04, 2023 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That’s from the BBC.

Cheers, folks. 🥂

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posted April 04, 2023 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
None of that is a crime—other than a possible misdemeanor—for which the 2-year SOL has long passed.

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