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Topic: The Nothing Burger Indictment
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Randall
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posted April 04, 2023 04:52 PM
  
One misdemeanor charge multiplied another 33 times. A bookkeeping ledger made months BEFORE the 2016 campaign, so it needed not be disclosed. Made to cover up another crime? That “crime” was not even stated in the indictment. Either way, the SOL is expired. This is complete bullsh*t legal chicanery. The SOL and malicious prosecution are appealable without a conviction, so this case will never see a jury.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted April 04, 2023 04:53 PM
Nope. Wrong. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted April 04, 2023 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Nope. Wrong.
Another scintillating teasel argument  IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted April 04, 2023 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
Another scintillating teasel argument
Sure, I'm not writing a thesis in response to that. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted April 04, 2023 05:29 PM
quickly scanning a few courtroom pics, he looks vaguely amused and a bit tired. Can't blame him.These types of "trials" aren't new. The Nazi People's Court, Stalin's Moscow trials, and here in the States, the infamous pre Civil War Tennessee show trial of abolitionist Amos Dreser. I believe Amos' punishment was a public whipping. I guess that's what this amounts to. Show trials are just what these people do. It's a hallmark of sorts. Takeway (if you had any doubts) - be a good bootlicker or the System will come for you too. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted April 04, 2023 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Sure, I'm not writing a thesis in response to that.
Sure, you're too busy licking boots to form a coherent response IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 04, 2023 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Nope. Wrong.
I hold a law degree, as well as an LL.M. So, feel free to explain to me what is “wrong” with my statement. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 04, 2023 06:06 PM
This political hack “inferred” that the “other” crime was that President Trump withheld information from the voters. Seriously? What this hack failed to mention was that the supposed crimes are past the SOL. What an idiot. How did this loser pass the NY Bar? If this judge has any integrity whatsoever, he will grant the upcoming motion for dismissal on SOL grounds. If not, I’m certain an appellate court will. SCOTUS certainly will. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 04, 2023 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
Another scintillating teasel argument
She probably got “Nope. Wrong.” from a tweet. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted April 04, 2023 07:00 PM
Looks like Manhattan DA Bragg is screwed no matter which way he tries to go with this indictment of Trump.First...as Randall already said, his so called felony indictment fails to state a felony offense that Trump allegedly committed. So, as a felony indictment, the indictment itself is legally insufficient to charge Trump with a felony. What's left are state misdemeanors but the statute of limitations, (2 years], have run. There was speculation that Bragg was going to bring in a charge relating to federal election law....paying off the porn star with election campaign funds. Someone must have pulled this big dummy aside and told him he's a local DA and doesn't have jurisdiction to prosecute federal crimes. One would think...from what we've seen here that indicting Trump was the end all be all and that Bragg doesn't plan for this to go to trial. The motions to dismiss are going to fly out of Trump's legal team over the next few months. It would be nice if the judge took a look at this indictment and NY law, called Bragg in, ripped him and dismissed the indictment. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 04, 2023 07:11 PM
Bragg also mumbled something about exceeding the campaign finance limit. What???IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 04, 2023 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Looks like Manhattan DA Bragg is screwed no matter which way he tries to go with this indictment of Trump.First...as Randall already said, his so called felony indictment fails to state a felony offense that Trump allegedly committed. So, as a felony indictment, the indictment itself is legally insufficient to charge Trump with a felony. What's left are state misdemeanors but the statute of limitations, (2 years], have run. There was speculation that Bragg was going to bring in a charge relating to federal election law....paying off the porn star with election campaign funds. Someone must have pulled this big dummy aside and told him he's a local DA and doesn't have jurisdiction to prosecute federal crimes. One would think...from what we've seen here that indicting Trump was the end all be all and that Bragg doesn't plan for this to go to trial. The motions to dismiss are going to fly out of Trump's legal team over the next few months. It would be nice if the judge took a look at this indictment and NY law, called Bragg in, ripped him and dismissed the indictment.
For an indictment that Bragg claims alludes to 34 felonies, it doesn’t allege a single felony violation, so as jwhop eloquently stated, the indictment is legally insufficient. This would be an F in any law school’s legal writing class. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted April 04, 2023 07:24 PM
Don’t grumble, give a whistle. IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted April 04, 2023 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
quickly scanning a few courtroom pics, he looks vaguely amused and a bit tired. Can't blame him.These types of "trials" aren't new. The Nazi People's Court, Stalin's Moscow trials, and here in the States, the infamous pre Civil War Tennessee show trial of abolitionist Amos Dreser. I believe Amos' punishment was a public whipping. I guess that's what this amounts to. Show trials are just what these people do. It's a hallmark of sorts. Takeway (if you had any doubts) - be a good bootlicker or the System will come for you too.
I wasn't aware of the Dreser example. Thanks. I would say this is a larger matter than being a good bootlicker or not. He and the movement he leads are a threat to the DC cartel's power like no one before, together with the unprecedented levels of the state's corruption, is why he's the first ex president ever to be indicted, in my opinion.
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Dhyana
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posted April 04, 2023 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
She probably got “Nope. Wrong.” from a tweet.
That is hilarious. IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted April 04, 2023 11:37 PM
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One misdemeanor charge multiplied another 33 times.
Mike Cernovich: quote:
The Trump indictment, which I read, would be laughable in any other circumstance. It's the same offense, copied and pasted 34 times, with the date changed each time. This is the biggest farce I've ever seen.
Oh, so that's how magician Bragg pulled the 34 charges out of a hat.  IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted April 04, 2023 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
This political hack “inferred” that the “other” crime was that President Trump withheld information from the voters. Seriously? What this hack failed to mention was that the supposed crimes are past the SOL. What an idiot. How did this loser pass the NY Bar? If this judge has any integrity whatsoever, he will grant the upcoming motion for dismissal on SOL grounds. If not, I’m certain an appellate court will. SCOTUS certainly will.
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jwhop
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posted April 05, 2023 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Bragg also mumbled something about exceeding the campaign finance limit. What???
I didn't know that.
I'm not aware of Trump running for any NY state office so what could Bragg be talking about? Could Bragg be alleging that Trump made a campaign donation to a NY politician that exceeded the state limit?
It's already established that Bragg has no jurisdiction to prosecute any federal crimes including federal campaign finance crimes. Who would vote for a bungler like Bragg? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 05, 2023 09:48 AM
He said it at the press conference. He was obviously confused. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted April 05, 2023 11:59 AM
It does not have to make sense legally or otherwise for this so called nothing burger indictment to proceed to trial and even a conviction. Rule of law does not exist for Kangaroo courts. Regardless of its outcome, this Barnum & Bailey circus benefits the left most: with freshly drawn Trump blood, it invigorates the base's TDS, gives a rating boost to their sagging medias, distracts the population from the real problems and from the failings of the Biden admin, and puts uncertainty in the GOP 2024 race. They will keep puling stunts like that, for the same reason a dog licks its balls... IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted April 05, 2023 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
He said it at the press conference. He was obviously confused.
I read that Bragg was peppered with questions about his 'indictment' at his 'victory press conference' where he stumbled around and didn't give a coherent answer to any press questions. The oft repeated question was.....where's the felony you allege Trump committed in your indictment. His answer....I don't have to tell you that! If that report is true, Bragg failed to inform Trump of the felony he allegedly committed. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted April 05, 2023 12:34 PM
Braggs accusations are beside the point. They know it. Why doesn't the Right? Why argue? Why try to reason with the unreasonable? This is *at best* their version of getting Capone on tax evasion. They will arrest you for jaywalking, while the paroled criminal who just raped and murdered a woman is let out on their no bail policy. Repubs always at least one decade behind lol
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