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posted July 13, 2023 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Event chart:


I'll come back to add context, but this is important for everyone in Ohio, and the country, if anyone else decides to try this, to keep things like abortion rights from getting onto the ballot.

From the article below:

Ohio voters will be asked to annihilate the simple principle of "one person, one vote" and replace it with minority control when it comes to citizen-led constitutional amendments.

Forty percent of voters will call the shots for the majority. How is that fair?

A "yes" vote on Issue 1 would be a blow against one of the best-known notions Abraham Lincoln expressed in the Gettysburg Address: the government should be of the people and for the people.

Ohio's elected officials have sadly already proven that they want to be above the people and not of the people.

Recent divisive proposed and approved legislation on issues ranging from whom can use which bathrooms to barring facts from college discussions shows they do not care about "the people's will" if the people's will differs from their own.

This is also about the petitions to get abortion rights on the ballot in November. We succeeded! And they don't want that. The State AG finally admitted that it's about abortion rights.

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posted July 13, 2023 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.dispatch.com/story/opinion/editorials/2023/07/10/state-ohio-issue-1-pros-and-cons-editorial-dispatch-august-8-special-election-who-supports-abortion/70373807007/

Issue 1 is one of the most significant questions Ohio voters will be asked in generations.

Elected officials know August elections are wasteful and have low turnout.

If they truly believed this was good for Ohio, why are these state leaders speaking out of both sides of their mouths?

Early voting for the Aug. 8 special election is July 11 to Aug. 6.
The Dispatch Editorial Board urges Ohioans to vote "no" on this statehouse con.

If fairness lived in the hearts of some of Ohio's elected officials instead of deceit, voters would not be headed to vote this Tuesday — the first day of early voting for the August 8 special election.

Frank LaRoseThere's no 'knife to the neck' of voters on constitutional changes

But the deception and the fear coursing through their veins is headed right for Ohio, the recently re-declared 'Heart of it All."

Issue 1 is one of the most significant questions Ohio voters will be asked in generations.

For 111 years, Ohioans have been able to seek votes from fellow voters when they believe "an issue is not addressed properly (or at all) in the Ohio Constitution."

Sixty percent of voter approval would be required instead of a simple majority of 50% plus one if Issue 1 — a statehouse con tied with pretty ribbon — is successful.

Those seeking to get amendments on the ballot would have the virtually insurmountable task of collecting signatures from at least 5% of voters from the last gubernatorial election in all 88 counties. Currently they have to go to 44 counties.

An attempt to catch you sleeping
It is shameful that the $20 million, single-issue August election is taking place.

The Republican legislators who put Issue 1 on the ballot know all too well that August elections are wasteful and hit voters while they are not paying attention during the dog days of summer, so turnout is low.

Just months ago, these power-hungry hypocrites voted to limit most August special elections for those very reasons. They were right then, they are wrong now.

Ohio voters will be asked to annihilate the simple principle of "one person, one vote" and replace it with minority control when it comes to citizen-led constitutional amendments.

Forty percent of voters will call the shots for the majority. How is that fair?

A "yes" vote on Issue 1 would be a blow against one of the best-known notions Abraham Lincoln expressed in the Gettysburg Address: the government should be of the people and for the people.

Ohio's elected officials have sadly already proven that they want to be above the people and not of the people.

Recent divisive proposed and approved legislation on issues ranging from whom can use which bathrooms to barring facts from college discussions shows they do not care about "the people's will" if the people's will differs from their own.

Both sides of their mouths
If those in support of Issue 1 truly believed this was good for democracy and Ohio, they would have the vote in November when Ohioans expect to vote.

Moreover, they would not be speaking out of both sides of their mouths about the reason the changes to our constitution are "needed."

Proponents have said publicly that it is about good government. They tell the truth when they think only some Ohioans are paying attention.

Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose for instance penned two guest columns published by the Dispatch in which he claimed the amendment was about protecting Ohio's constitution from outside special interest groups and from corrupt players like former Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder.

Frank LaRose:There's no 'knife to the neck' of voters on constitutional changes

LaRose admitted recently that it is about keeping voters from deciding if abortion access should be enshrined in Ohio's constitution this November.

“Some people say this is all about abortion," LaRose said during a Lincoln Day dinner in northwest Ohio. "Well, you know what, I’m pro-life. I think many of you are as well. This is 100% about keeping a radical pro-abortion amendment out of our constitution. The left wants to jam it in there this coming November."

More than 700,000 signatures were filed Wednesday to put an abortion amendment on the November ballot.

State Rep. Brian Stewart — one of the issue's chief architects with LaRose — and others have made it abundantly clear that another goal is blocking efforts to create fairer statehouse and congressional voting districts.

Silencing Ohioans
Despite what LaRose says, Issue 1 is not 100% about abortion or redistricting for that matter.

It would most likely mean certain defeat for a list of potential citizen-led constitutional amendments not limited to gun control, workers' rights, increased minimum wage and term limits.

Citizen-led constitutional amendments may be the only way for those issues to come before voters here. Ohio's gerrymandered General Assembly has proven it can't be trusted to execute the will of the people no matter how hard the people petition lawmakers.

One of the most egregious examples of ignoring voters' will came when the Republican-dominated Ohio Redistricting Commission chose dominance over delivering the fair voting districts 71% of Ohioans said they wanted during a 2015 anti-gerrymandering initiative.

Without citizen-led constitutional amendments there will be few things voters can do to enact change when lawmakers refuse to listen.

In fact, voter-initiated constitutional amendments were added at the 1912 Ohio Constitutional Convention because lawmakers did not listen to the demands of the people.

This election is special in ways that go beyond the date ballots will be counted. It speaks to Ohio's heart and whether or not undemocratic forces will be successful in corrupting it with very big lies.

Ohioans deserve "a government of the people, by the people, for the people."

Voters should have a real shot at deciding whether or not abortion and other issues are enshrined in the state's constitution.

Voters should not be asked to surrender their ballot right because elected officials are afraid of not getting their own way.

Voters surely should not be asked such an important question during the dog days of summer.

We should not be here as a state, but the August 8 special election will happen, nevertheless.

Lawmakers do not think you are paying attention, that your vote should count or that you will exercise your long-fought right to vote.

Prove them wrong by voting "no" on Issue 1.

Voting information
Monday, July 10, is the voter registration deadline for the August 8 election. Visit www.ohiosos.gov or call your county board of elections to register to vote, check to see if you are registered or change your registration information.

Polls will open 6:30 a.m. to 7:30 p.m. on election day, August 8.

Early in-person voting hours for the August 8 special election.
Visit www.ohiosos.gov/elections/voters/toolkit/early-voting/ for voting locations in your county.

July 11 to 14 — 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.

July 17 to 21 — 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.

July 24 to 28 — 8:00 a.m. to 5 p.m.

July 31 — 7:30 a.m. to 7:30 p.m.

August 1 — 7:30 a.m. - 8:30 p.m.

August 2-4 — 7:30 a.m. - 7:30 p.m.

August 5 — 8 a.m. - 4 p.m.

August 6 — 1 p.m. - 5 p.m.

This piece was written by the Dispatch Opinion Editor Amelia Robinson on behalf of The Dispatch Editorial Board. Editorials are our board's fact-based assessment of issues of importance to the communities we serve. These are not the opinions of our reporting staff members, who strive for neutrality in their reporting.

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posted July 14, 2023 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to move this to Horary and Event Astrology, but it is clear that this is just a political thread, so it belongs in Global Unity 2.0 instead. The reason GU was created is to keep politics off the other forums. I have tried asking you nicely, teasel, but you insist on hijacking and infecting threads in Astrology 2.0 with your political posts. Short of banning you, I don’t know what else to do. This is your final warning. Keep your abortion rants on the GU forum. That includes anti-Republican and anti-Trump posts.

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posted July 14, 2023 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, IT'S ASTROLOGY. I was going to go back to it on the day, and look at it properly beforehand. FFS. You let threads run free for page after page, when it was something you agreed with.

This is an event chart for a really important election. It doesn't belong here.

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posted July 14, 2023 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why didn't you move the recent thread about presidential candidates, to GU? Why didn't you move the thread about Russia, to GU? And the other thread about predictions for Finland, and everywhere else? All political. You just picked on my thread.

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posted July 14, 2023 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/243447.html

This is one.

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posted July 14, 2023 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just because I am being somewhat flexible with the threads in Astrology 2.0 does not mean what you do is okay. There is no comparison to a prediction thread and what you do. You hijack threads that have nothing to do with politics (like the Pluto return thread) to insert numerous posts about your political agenda. Posting an event chart as cover doesn’t negate the facts that this is just an excuse to post about topics that belong here in GU.

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posted July 14, 2023 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is. It's all political. You let threads run a long time, when they were about covid conspiracies, when they favour republicans, putin... There were so many. None of them were moved here. The prediction thread didn't include astrology right away. A few things were finally included, but it's predictions, not astrology.

This is astrology. It's a look at the transits for a big election in one State. I couldn't find a chart of the state itself, but different cities have different charts. It could have been a discussion, once it happened, and we had the results. This is unfair.

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posted July 14, 2023 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don’t care about the chart. You just thought it would be a loophole to allow you to rant about abortion for pages. It’s not really even an issue over this particular thread. It’s how you just insert multiple political posts in astrology threads. People don’t want to read about that in an astrology forum. Anti-Democrat posts don’t belong there either. You go overboard, like you are on some kind of mission. And that is fine. Just keep it in GU. I’ve had to close several threads in the past in Astrology 2.0 that you’ve hijacked.

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posted July 14, 2023 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, looking at the chart, do you think "we, the people" will win, or do you think the AG's lies will win out? Big money from someone in Illinois (dark money, the swamp), is behind the push for Issue 1, and they have no business deciding what's right for us in Ohio.

I have LaRose's birthday, but no birth time. His birthday is four days after mine, which means he had Pluto square his Sun, as well. Still does. I'll put up his chart in a sec, but I'm supposed to be leaving the house.

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posted July 14, 2023 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natal chart:

With transits:

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posted July 14, 2023 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune on his Venus, over the last few years, and Pluto square his Sun. Pluto opposed his Jupiter... I have that natally, but it's squared by Saturn. These are transits, and all three of these together, show extremism to me. He also lied to the public.

I see other transits, but they were before the past six months or so. I can't be unbiased, looking at this, because I don't like him, or trust him. He has Saturn opposed Saturn, currently. I think he overplayed his hand, with this, because people of every political persuasion are against this, but some believe the lies about the Issue itself, and what it stands for.

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