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Randall
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posted February 08, 2024 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Justice Jackson: “At best this is ambiguous, and if there is ambiguity, why would we construe it against democracy?”

Justice Kagan: “Why should a single state have the ability to make this determination not only for their own citizens, but for the rest of the nation?”

Justices Jackson and Kagan were the strongest advocates against it. Justice Jackson kept pushing the subject toward whether the office of the presidency is even included. Lack of due process was mentioned. Justice Kavanaugh asserted that a person would have to be charged, tried, and found guilty of insurrection under the federal statute. Chief Justice Roberts mentioned how, if allowed to stated, this would allow one state to bar either party’s candidate in the future. All in all, the consensus was that states cannot bar federal officials from running for office. The 14th does state “Congress.”

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posted February 08, 2024 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That doesn’t mean they support him, and this was expected.

Now we get to see if they will give the criminal full immunity. Your guy.

Clarence Thomas should have recused. His wife took part in insurrection, and he’s taken bribes.

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posted February 08, 2024 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Bit of a gerrymandered rule, benefiting your client only, isn't it?"


Sotomayor: Why do you keep talking about the term limits? Are you setting up a future argument, where someone may try to run for third term?


there is no constitutional right to ballot access.


If they rule that Section 3 does not apply to the office of the presidency, then the president is a king and there’s no law in this country. - Brown-Jackson made this argument. And you know this applies to Biden, too, right?


So, the Supreme Court just made every president, including Biden, a king or queen.

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posted February 08, 2024 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
That doesn’t mean they support him, and this was expected.

Now we get to see if they will give the criminal full immunity. Your guy.

Clarence Thomas should have recused. His wife took part in insurrection, and he’s taken bribes.


Who says anything about supporting him? They are not supposed to be political. The Court rules on the law.

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posted February 08, 2024 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
"Bit of a gerrymandered rule, benefiting your client only, isn't it?"


Sotomayor: Why do you keep talking about the term limits? Are you setting up a future argument, where someone may try to run for third term?


there is no constitutional right to ballot access.


If they rule that Section 3 does not apply to the office of the presidency, then the president is a king and there’s no law in this country. - Brown-Jackson made this argument. And you know this applies to Biden, too, right?


So, the Supreme Court just made every president, including Biden, a king or queen.


What cracker jack cartoon network told you all of that nonsense? Sotomayor simply said there has to be due process for an insurrection to apply. And in the quote you used, she was putting President Trump's attorney back on track by letting him know he wasn't making a Constitutional argument.

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posted February 08, 2024 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I expect SCOTUS to rule in a matter of weeks, if not days.

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posted February 08, 2024 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I expect SCOTUS to rule in a matter of weeks, if not days.

The ruling by the Supreme Court on the Colorado case will be 9-0 or 8-1 in favor of Trump.

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posted February 09, 2024 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only one Justice was sympathetic to the concept, but she was also an advocate of there being no due process. I think it will be 9-0 because to rule in favor would be a ruling against centralized government.

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posted February 09, 2024 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"there is no constitutional right to ballot access"
~teasel~

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Is this Constitutional enough for you??

Access to be on state's ballots involves filing with each state to be on that state's ballot and collecting a sufficient number of signatures....if candidates first meet the requirements of Article II, Section I, Clause 5.

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posted February 09, 2024 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
"there is no constitutional right to ballot access"
~teasel~

[b]Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Is this Constitutional enough for you??

Access to be on state's ballots involves filing with each state to be on that state's ballot and collecting a sufficient number of signatures....if candidates first meet the requirements of Article II, Section I, Clause 5.

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