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Topic: SCOTUS Is Saving The Best For Last
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Randall
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posted June 28, 2024 11:51 AM
  
A ruling on immunity due Monday.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted June 28, 2024 03:07 PM
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A ruling on immunity due Monday.
There can be no real American Presidency without immunity for 'official acts'. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted June 30, 2024 05:51 PM
Granting Biden blanket immunity to do whatever he wants? Coups, executions. He can just retain power, because he wants to. He’s the president. The immunity would count for him, too. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted June 30, 2024 05:53 PM
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There can be no real American Presidency without immunity for 'official acts'.
Like calling for the exact number of votes trump needed to win Georgia - and didn’t receive. Like telling his VP to do something he wasn’t allowed to do, and steal the election? Those aren’t official acts. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted June 30, 2024 11:08 PM
You’re ridiculous.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 01, 2024 12:15 PM
Supreme Court of the United States:Presidents, including President Trump have absolute immunity when performing 'Official Acts'. As for the 'official act' Trump was performing on January 6th:
The President “shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed". Those laws include the election laws of the United States. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 01, 2024 12:24 PM
Weeping and gnashing of teeth from the far left lunatic extremists.Trump Wins: Supreme Court Says Presidents Covered by Immunity for ‘Official Acts’
Joel B. Pollak
1 Jul 2024 The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of former President Donald Trump on Monday, holding in a 6-3 decision that presidents are covered by limited immunity from criminal prosecutions for actions taken while in office. The decision is here. The Court held, according to the summary of the decision: Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts
http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/01/trump-wins-supr eme-court-says-presidents-covered-by-limited-immunity/ IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 01, 2024 01:15 PM
Welcome king Biden. Let’s get these executive orders flowing. Let’s cancel the election, to save democracy. That’s an official act. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 01, 2024 01:26 PM
You’ve also argued that dark Brandon can assassinate political opponents. He could remove Supreme Court justices, to protect the constitution. Like the six who voted in favour of this. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 01, 2024 01:46 PM
Arguably the best SCOTUS ruling in history. Drop all these bogus court cases.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 01, 2024 01:59 PM
Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh in September 2018:“Under the Constitution, the president is not above the law. No one is above the law…The president remains subject to the law.”
So why did he change his mind in this? He lied to get the job. You’ve supported corruption all along.
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Randall
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posted July 01, 2024 02:08 PM
Deranged much? This decision does not place a President above the law. It IS the law.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 01, 2024 02:15 PM
THE 1788 CONSTITUTION: "You can remove a President from office for high crimes and misdemeanors."THE 2024 SUPREME COURT: "A President can't commit high crimes and misdemeanors." How is that ruling consistent with the express wording of the Constitution, Originalists? ———- So do you believe in the constitution, or not? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 01, 2024 04:22 PM
Stop being ridiculous. I will say that “presumptive immunity” means that the burden of proof is on the government to show that a President's acts are not official and therefore not immune, and that is a significant hurdle. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 01, 2024 04:54 PM
Why does rump need immunity, if he didn't do anything wrong? IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 01, 2024 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
You’ve also argued that dark Brandon can assassinate political opponents. He could remove Supreme Court justices, to protect the constitution. Like the six who voted in favour of this.
LunaticsRus. Nice going loons. Cancelling elections would not be within the 'official acts' of a president. Removing SC Justices is not within the power of presidents.
First, there would be impeachment in the House.
Second, a trial in the US Senate.
Third, presidents have nothing to do with that process, nor do presidents have veto power over a Senate conviction nor do presidents need to sign off on the conviction. No wonder the country is in such a mess. Leftists have no idea how things actually work...by law...in the US.  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 01, 2024 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Why does rump need immunity, if he didn't do anything wrong?
Because freaks in the Dem party have decided it's okay to go after Presidents with made-up crimes and false charges. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 01, 2024 07:05 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts at his confirmation hearing: “No one is above the law under our system and that includes the president. The president is fully bound by the law.” (Sept. 2005) http://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1807882444663587082 IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 01, 2024 08:44 PM
So?IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 02, 2024 02:06 PM
Demorat loons melting down after SCOTUS Immunity decision. Democrats thought they were running effective Lawfare against Trump. Now, all that Lawfare is turning to crap before their eyes. It's shocking how little about the law the people who write the laws know.
Dem Rep. Lofgren Decries SCOTUS Immunity Decision, Claims Biden ‘Could Dispatch the Military to Take Out the Conservative Justices’On Monday on MSNBC’s “Deadline: White House,” Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) claimed President Joe Biden could use the Supreme Court decision affirming a degree of immunity for former and current presidents to remove conservative justices from the high court.....
http://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/07/01/dem-rep-lofgren-decries-scotus-immunity-decision-claims-biden-could-dispatch-the-military-to-take-out-the-conservative-justices/ IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 02, 2024 02:37 PM
Two more days until King Biden Day. And RFK Jr. basically admitted to sexually assaulting his 23-year-old babysitter, in the past. “I said there were skeletons in my closet.” So why don’t you have the pitchforks out for him? IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 02, 2024 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Two more days until King Biden Day. And RFK Jr. basically admitted to sexually assaulting his 23-year-old babysitter, in the past. “I said there were skeletons in my closet.” So why don’t you have the pitchforks out for him?
I don't know what you're talking about...but then, neither do you. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 02, 2024 04:41 PM
Assassinating a political rival, is not an official act. Rumpy couldn’t just shoot someone, and get away with it. Stealing an election, is not an official act. The fraud case was not an official act. The stolen documents were not official acts. He was out. They were not his. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 02, 2024 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Assassinating a political rival, is not an official act. Rumpy couldn’t just shoot someone, and get away with it. Stealing an election, is not an official act. The fraud case was not an official act. The stolen documents were not official acts. He was out. They were not his.
"Assassinating a political rival, is not an official act"
No one here said it was. But then, one of your dumb, imbecilic demorat Representatives suggested it. "Stealing an election, is not an official act."
Agreed but Biden wasn't president or even in government when he and his leftist minions stole the 2020 election. That theft is covered by other US laws...which will be enforced soon. " The stolen documents were not official acts."
Documents weren't stolen by Trump. Presidents are permitted to retain presidential records when they leave office.
On the other hand, the thousands of government records, some marked Top Secret that Biden stole and retained when he wasn't even president bear investigation and prosecution. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 08, 2024 12:49 AM
Three important facts to note:
1. The lower trial courts are not able to use a President’s motive in determining whether an act was official or unofficial.
2. If a trial court determines that something is unofficial, that is immediately appealable through the appellate courts PRE-TRIAL because it is such a fundamental issue before someone goes to to trial that if they’re potentially immune it has to be reviewed on appeal.
3. Immunity not only covers official acts, but conversations are also immune. That one fact alone obliterates the GA case.IP: Logged |
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