posted March 12, 2011 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
I'm not trying to 'convert' or fight with you, just show you that opposing views are valid with a lot of truth behind it. If someone can cure themselves naturally than why pay insane amount of money for something that doesn't cure you? It's illogical.

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The intent of this thread wasn't to debate whether or not diet and exercise can cure everyone's depression. This is a thread about Personality Disorders.

If you would like to discuss my depression? I will tell you that a healthy diet and exercise never came close to making a dent in it...

Diet will not cure Herpes, Aids, Genital Warts, TB, Pertussis, Diptheria, Whooping Cough, Polio, ASPD, Cystic Fibrosis, etc. etc.

posted March 12, 2011 11:06 PM            

Actually exercise is very helpful to mental illness because it boosts endorphins and adrenaline. I've cured myself of mental illness, of my deep depression. Your thoughts that you can't do it yourself is a self-fulfilling prophecy. By thinking and insisting you can't only proves that you can't. Why are placebo effects even possible? To me that is more telling than the drug itself.

That story of the woman...well I'd like a link to her blog.

Cancer is caused by acidic cells, and acidic pH in the body. Not by genetics or whathaveyou bs reasons.

And if my post doesn't seem positive to you it's because of the nasty attitude YOU gave me. I apologized for the way my first post sounded and you chose to ignore that.

posted March 12, 2011 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
You are misinformed as in much of the public. The reason that these things exist is because there is an imbalance of the body. The best cure is prevention.

Actually exercise is very helpful to mental illness because it boosts endorphins and adrenaline. I've cured myself of mental illness, of my deep depression. Your thoughts that you can't do it yourself is a self-fulfilling prophecy. By thinking and insisting you can't only proves that you can't. Why are placebo effects even possible? To me that is more telling than the drug itself.

That story of the woman...well I'd like a link to her blog.

Cancer is caused by acidic cells, and acidic pH in the body. Not by genetics or whathaveyou bs reasons.

And if my post doesn't seem positive to you it's because of the nasty attitude YOU gave me. I apologized for the way my first post sounded and you chose to ignore that.

Natural health practitioners make a lot less money than doctors and Big Pharma but they heal people which is why they continue to do it.

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Littlecloud, I will try to find the blog again. I suspect the whole thing was taken down some time after she fled to Australia for treatment, nevertheless, I will look.

As far as my nasty attitude? Call it my natural charm. I find your positive jabbing to be just as offensive, and your little spray of positive "little cloud" over what you originally said, was hardly an apology.

Consider this is an argument I've heard over and over from insensitive people who will just about beat you to death if you are not cured by natural remedies alone - or exercise.

posted March 12, 2011 11:25 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I also recently crossed the blog of a woman who convinced herself she could heal herself with a raw food all natural, healthy diet alone.

Her breast cancer ate away at her breast, until it ulcerated and began to rot off.

Her blog abruptly stopped. Some time later, a family member updated the blog and said that she had traveled to Australia to begin modern medical chemo therapy for her advanced stage breast cancer.

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works??? Medicine.

Saying that mother nature is equipped to heal all, and that modern medicine is evil, is truly dangerous.

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posted March 13, 2011 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
You are misinformed as in much of the public. The reason that these things exist is because there is an imbalance of the body. The best cure is prevention.

Actually exercise is very helpful to mental illness because it boosts endorphins and adrenaline. I've cured myself of mental illness, of my deep depression. Your thoughts that you can't do it yourself is a self-fulfilling prophecy. By thinking and insisting you can't only proves that you can't. Why are placebo effects even possible? To me that is more telling than the drug itself.

That story of the woman...well I'd like a link to her blog.

Cancer is caused by acidic cells, and acidic pH in the body. Not by genetics or whathaveyou bs reasons.

And if my post doesn't seem positive to you it's because of the nasty attitude YOU gave me. I apologized for the way my first post sounded and you chose to ignore that.

Natural health practitioners make a lot less money than doctors and Big Pharma but they heal people which is why they continue to do it.

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posted March 13, 2011 10:25 AM            

I don't know what was originally said, but it doesnt seem worth fighting over.

There are many causes of depression including anatomical reactions to chemicals like bromide. Fluoride causes hypothyroidism which causes depression too. I worked out obsessively hoping I could be less suicidal and save my life. There are diets and vitamins that are proving very effective for certain types of disorders, particularly if you get down to the nitty gritty of your body's system and whether you over or under methylenate. If you don't know where your depression is coming from, it can be difficult.

I'm seeing a lot of antagonism from one person directed towards another. It's not worth dragging out like this, but that is my opinion. Borderline is one of those disorders they have only been shown to cure with behavioral therapy interventions so technically both sides would be out of place if you want to be really strict on this thread. I don't see a reason to be. We all have a right to our beliefs that lexapro is extremely helpful or that natural approaches can be very healing. I think we can disagree without it descending into some of what I've seen on this thread. I'm sorry if that rubs people wrong.

posted March 13, 2011 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by mochai:
I'm seeing a lot of antagonism from one person directed towards another. It's not worth dragging out like this, but that is my opinion. Borderline is one of those disorders they have only been shown to cure with behavioral therapy interventions so technically both sides would be out of place if you want to be really strict on this thread. I don't see a reason to be. We all have a right to our beliefs that lexapro is extremely helpful or that natural approaches can be very healing. I think we can disagree without it descending into some of what I've seen on this thread. I'm sorry if that rubs people wrong.

Also ps, with the manner in which you are exacting on some of these threads I can only surmise that some of that is internatlly directed. If that's the case, I could see why lexapro has been so helpful for you over other alternatives. I hope that's not the case..

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Thank you for your very objective analysis, Mochai.

I do happen to love myself, very much. So, as far as your analysis on the appropriateness of Lexapro to treat "inwardly directed energy" - it's off the mark. And, I suspect a very veiled way of saying, "Of course you would take lexapro you a**hole."

Love the veiled comments on this thread. Really hilarious.

In conclusion:

Lexapro works wonders, folks. For me, and many normal everyday people that I call friends, clients, and co-workers.

My use of Lexapro has nothing to do with BPD though, so if you guys don't mind...

posted March 13, 2011 11:55 AM            

Yeah, I am really disgusted with the attempts of a few individuals here to get into a debate over my health info...

All I can say is, keep digging...

All this in the midst of a 2nd Nuclear reactor meltdown, hope the material doesn't plume on down.

Talk to you laters!

posted March 13, 2011 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by mochai:
The consensus is that boderline personality disorder is really a personality disorder, and anti-depressants won't help the personality disorder unless its co-morbid with depression, nor will exercise. You have to change how the person thinks and experiences reality. If anything talking about drugs isn't too related to this topic.

I don't know what was originally said, but it doesnt seem worth fighting over.

There are many causes of depression including anatomical reactions to chemicals like bromide. Fluoride causes hypothyroidism which causes depression too. I worked out obsessively hoping I could be less suicidal and save my life. There are diets and vitamins that are proving very effective for certain types of disorders, particularly if you get down to the nitty gritty of your body's system and whether you over or under methylenate. If you don't know where your depression is coming from, it can be difficult.

I'm seeing a lot of antagonism from one person directed towards another. It's not worth dragging out like this, but that is my opinion. Borderline is one of those disorders they have only been shown to cure with behavioral therapy interventions so technically both sides would be out of place if you want to be really strict on this thread. I don't see a reason to be. We all have a right to our beliefs that lexapro is extremely helpful or that natural approaches can be very healing. I think we can disagree without it descending into some of what I've seen on this thread. I'm sorry if that rubs people wrong.

Also ps, with the manner in which you are exacting on some of these threads I can only surmise that some of that is internatlly directed. If that's the case, I could see why lexapro has been so helpful for you over other alternatives. I hope that's not the case..

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posted March 13, 2011 12:02 PM            

I've been on lexapro. It was great for about two months till it stopped working for me as most anti-depressants do.

posted March 13, 2011 04:11 PM            

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Littlecloud, no offense when I say this, but shove your genital warts.

I don't know what erudite planet you're living on that THINKS you can cure disease with food alone. Call me "close minded" and "uneducated" because I HAVE NO INTEREST in reading those links.

Are you selling vitamins, too?

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This is the reason why I told you that I know longer wish to address/converse with you. Because of this nasty attitude that you call your 'personal charm'. I used to be like you, you reap what you sow. I prefer the taste of honey.

I would advise you to take your own advice about being careful what to say to others. You are the one putting words in our mouths. I see people trying to reach out to you and you are the one that immediately fights them putting up walls and jumping to your own defense like you have been attacked. The word ignorant comes from the Latin ignarus, which means not knowing. By definition we are all ignorant. You nor I know everything. Misinformed means that you have been given the wrong information. I do not see the correlation between the two words that you find.

posted March 13, 2011 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Found it!

This is the reason why I told you that I know longer wish to address/converse with you. Because of this nasty attitude that you call your 'personal charm'. I used to be like you, you reap what you sow. I prefer the taste of honey.

I would advise you to take your own advice about being careful what to say to others. You are the one putting words in our mouths. I see people trying to reach out to you and you are the one that immediately fights them putting up walls and jumping to your own defense like you have been attacked. The word ignorant comes from the Latin ignarus, which means not knowing. By definition we are all ignorant. You nor I know everything. Misinformed means that you have been given the wrong information. I do not see the correlation between the two words that you find.

From my post in http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000235-13.html where I posted links to the information I was asked of, you specifically chose not to read it. Your actions in this case show much. You consciously choose not to know. I say this in observation of what you exhibit here. It is evident that you have and continue to be quite hurt and exhibit this pain through your 'natural charm'. I truly hope you find healing.

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posted March 13, 2011 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Found it!

This is the reason why I told you that I know longer wish to address/converse with you. Because of this nasty attitude that you call your 'personal charm'. I used to be like you, you reap what you sow. I prefer the taste of honey.

I would advise you to take your own advice about being careful what to say to others. You are the one putting words in our mouths. I see people trying to reach out to you and you are the one that immediately fights them putting up walls and jumping to your own defense like you have been attacked. The word ignorant comes from the Latin ignarus, which means not knowing. By definition we are all ignorant. You nor I know everything. Misinformed means that you have been given the wrong information. I do not see the correlation between the two words that you find.

From my post in http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000235-13.html where I posted links to the information I was asked of, you specifically chose not to read it. Your actions in this case show much. You consciously choose not to know. I say this in observation of what you exhibit here. It is evident that you have and continue to be quite hurt and exhibit this pain through your 'natural charm'. I truly hope you find healing.

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Thanks for your very passive-aggressive attempts to reduce my opinions, to pat me on the head while your literally taking a dump on my thread.

Absolutely nothing you have said here has been helpful. It has only incited a really watered down version of conflict, in the midst of way more important issues.

As far a reaping what you sow, you sound incredibly arrogant and mislead. I wish nothing but the same for you, that you also reap what you sow...

God forbid you come down with cancer, and your natural remedies of olive oil and positive thinking don't help you.

posted March 13, 2011 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by mochai:
Lexapro works for anxiety. I wasn't even thinking that. I was merely concerned about your own personal well being. Lexapro is one of the most effective ssri's for anxiety. I don't know that you have anxiety, but anxiety does strongly correlate with depression. Where you would have anxiety is none of my business if you do have it.

I've been on lexapro. It was great for about two months till it stopped working for me as most anti-depressants do.

I'm okay with threads flowing a little as that happens with most threads normally. I'm not trying to veil anything. When you talk about your depression on some of the threads I worry for you.

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posted March 13, 2011 07:34 PM            

My 'you reap what you sow' comment is in reference to the Law of Attraction, as in attracting what you put out there, hence reaping what you sow.

posted March 13, 2011 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Maybe because she cares about humanity which you happen to be a member of.

My 'you reap what you sow' comment is in reference to the Law of Attraction, as in attracting what you put out there, hence reaping what you sow.

Don't you worry yourself. I won't get cancer.

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Don't answer questions I have asked other members, Littlecloud...

I'm betting you're two steps and a shake away from getting all "Godlike" on me (wait, you are now...), just because you can't stand my support of modern medicine, so much.

Too bad.

I don't believe diet and exercise can cure all diseases in the world. Especially nowadays, when there's so much radioactivity in the air.

posted March 13, 2011 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Maybe because she cares about humanity which you happen to be a member of.

My 'you reap what you sow' comment is in reference to the Law of Attraction, as in attracting what you put out there, hence reaping what you sow.

Don't you worry yourself. I won't get cancer.

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posted March 13, 2011 08:06 PM            

You've been introducing yourself as Kilroy on other threads...